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the higher the weight the greater the pain, usually when i bend my back.

each once a week

i do a split of two workouts each every 3 days, and the end each is either deadlift or squat

i have the pain always i do the exercises

it is symetrical

i do a 5min ab at the end of every workout

Yes i also got a little arch in my back but it has never been a problem

and physios in germany are regularly overpaid twaddler and my smartphone usually can do a better diagnosis.

Not really much i can say with that information. it could be 1 of 100 things and to be honest, going to see a specialist is really the best way if you really want to get it sorted. if its tendon damage its a case of a lot of rest and some soft stretching. if its muscular, it depends what it is and may be down to poor technique that youve continued over a long period of time which can put some strain on tendons as well. it could be to do with your back arch and there for may be casuing some stress on some ligaments. im going to start doing dead lifts very soon and thats the thing that concerns me.

dead lifts are not an essential thing to do. people seem to like them and im not really sure why. the reason im going to do them is i went strengthen and loosen my upper hamstring whilst strengthening my back. i could easily just do this with some simple lower back exercises and some leg stuff, but everyone seems to do dead lifts so ill give it ago. but you dont need to do them, and it sound like you need to allow some time to let what ever you've damaged recover.

If you really dont want to see a physio i suggest googling "lower back pain from dead lift" you will eventually find lots of hints and tips from people who suffer from similar pains that may help you. also, if you can pin point what the exact problem is, there are a lot of youtube videos of stretches and exercises to help rehabilitate specific injuries.

like i said, it could be 1 of 100 things, and if you dont want to see a physio i'd lay of the dead lifts for a while, and have a stumble around the internet to see if you can find any info on your injury.

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Not really much i can say with that information. it could be 1 of 100 things and to be honest, going to see a specialist is really the best way if you really want to get it sorted. if its tendon damage its a case of a lot of rest and some soft stretching. if its muscular, it depends what it is and may be down to poor technique that youve continued over a long period of time which can put some strain on tendons as well. it could be to do with your back arch and there for may be casuing some stress on some ligaments. im going to start doing dead lifts very soon and thats the thing that concerns me.

dead lifts are not an essential thing to do. people seem to like them and im not really sure why. the reason im going to do them is i went strengthen and loosen my upper hamstring whilst strengthening my back. i could easily just do this with some simple lower back exercises and some leg stuff, but everyone seems to do dead lifts so ill give it ago. but you dont need to do them, and it sound like you need to allow some time to let what ever you've damaged recover.

If you really dont want to see a physio i suggest googling "lower back pain from dead lift" you will eventually find lots of hints and tips from people who suffer from similar pains that may help you. also, if you can pin point what the exact problem is, there are a lot of youtube videos of stretches and exercises to help rehabilitate specific injuries.

like i said, it could be 1 of 100 things, and if you dont want to see a physio i'd lay of the dead lifts for a while, and have a stumble around the internet to see if you can find any info on your injury.

thx tho.

IMO deadlifts are necessary at some point. they are the exercise that stress the most muscles. Squats&deadlifts are unevitable to get bigger, cos u can move big weights by using you whole back&leg. I've gone a certain distance without doing them too systematically but I am planning to do a a WKM workout to get the most out of my 2nd year in bb and want to get that sorted out. I'm gonna try to find a good physio

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thx tho.

IMO deadlifts are necessary at some point. they are the exercise that stress the most muscles. Squats&deadlifts are unevitable to get bigger, cos u can move big weights by using you whole back&leg. I've gone a certain distance without doing them too systematically but I am planning to do a a WKM workout to get the most out of my 2nd year in bb and want to get that sorted out. I'm gonna try to find a good physio

I still dont get it though. like ive heard some guys say they dead lift because it helps them get bigger traps.... why not just do shrugs? you dont do chest press/sholder press to work your triceps? whys it any different? Im not saying its a bad exercise or it shouldnt be done, i just think people misunderstand its benefits. I dont have very much knowledge on it yet, but the only educated guess i can make at its benefits is that it does work a lot of muscles over the entire body and therefore causes really sharp spikes in hormones related to protein synthesis. but then why not go do sprints? when i was going through a sprint routine i had massive gains on my shoulders and back as well as my legs, and i guess its a similar thing.

like i said, im not saying its a bad exercise at all, and i plan to start doing them, im just confused on what it does exactly. i look forward to doing them though, its always nice to learn a new thing.

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I still dont get it though. like ive heard some guys say they dead lift because it helps them get bigger traps.... why not just do shrugs? you dont do chest press/sholder press to work your triceps? whys it any different? Im not saying its a bad exercise or it shouldnt be done, i just think people misunderstand its benefits. I dont have very much knowledge on it yet, but the only educated guess i can make at its benefits is that it does work a lot of muscles over the entire body and therefore causes really sharp spikes in hormones related to protein synthesis. but then why not go do sprints? when i was going through a sprint routine i had massive gains on my shoulders and back as well as my legs, and i guess its a similar thing.

like i said, im not saying its a bad exercise at all, and i plan to start doing them, im just confused on what it does exactly. i look forward to doing them though, its always nice to learn a new thing.

lol shrugs are about the most useless exercise ever. deadlift has nothing to do with traps. Deadlift makes you bigger overall, it is THE compound lift. Everyone who can do deadlifts should do them. It is simply one of the most natural and basic movement of the human bio mechanism

I've been around bb scene, forums, websites&stuff for almost 2 years + I have been competitive sprinter,too. Sprint + deadlifts are totally different. You can't compare that. You can workt with progressive overload in a sprint workout, which is THE basic principle in bb.

Some people might get bigger by sprint but that is rather the exception than the rule.

When I started sprinting not even my quads&hams got any bigger. They did when i started with squat and leg press.

Deadlifts are also great cos deadlift+ only bench press, squat and maybe also pull up, schoulder press and bent over row are everything you have to do to work your entire body effectively. Forget your shrugs∨ other isolation bullshit.

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lol shrugs are about the most useless exercise ever. deadlift has nothing to do with traps. Deadlift makes you bigger overall, it is THE compound lift. Everyone who can do deadlifts should do them. It is simply one of the most natural and basic movement of the human bio mechanism

I've been around bb scene, forums, websites&stuff for almost 2 years + I have been competitive sprinter,too. Sprint + deadlifts are totally different. You can't compare that. You can workt with progressive overload in a sprint workout, which is THE basic principle in bb.

Some people might get bigger by sprint but that is rather the exception than the rule.

When I started sprinting not even my quads&hams got any bigger. They did when i started with squat and leg press.

Deadlifts are also great cos deadlift+ only bench press, squat and maybe also pull up, schoulder press and bent over row are everything you have to do to work your entire body effectively. Forget your shrugs∨ other isolation bullshit.

I agree with a lot of what you say to a certain extent. But If all you want to do is to get bigger muscles, then isolation workouts work a charm. Me, personally, before ive started this little bulk up period, the resistance stuff i did was specific to my sport to help me improve performance. Which i can see why a dead lift can imrpove performance if your everyday life includes picking shit off a floor (which is actually what i do as a part time job ) I dont know whether people see the dead lift as a good exercise because you work lots of muscles, and again, unless its being used as a kidn of shortcut, i dont see why you dont go and work the muscles seperately. as said before, the chemical spikes that would happen all over the body are the only real benefit i see.

I dont think you did sprints right if you noticed no difference, espeically in your hmstrings. and you can add progressive resitance to a sprint exercise with sledges/parachutes/hills. if you did it competatively, your training regime must have had some flaws, coach to blame for that.

And with shrugs, i think its one of the most commonly poorly exectuted exercises ever. If theres one thing id say to anyone starting to build a bit of muscle, its learn the muscular anatomy of the human body. find out where the major muscles you want to work are, their origins and where they insert. i see people hold some dumbells right by their side and shrug.... wtf is that shit?! the traps, the upper part of the traps, has an origin at the back of the head and top of the spinal column, and inserts on the outer part of your clavicle. to work them properly you need to be holding your weights away from your body. something as simple as that improves a workout. know the anatomy and it makes things so much better.

I look forward to doing deadlifts and i better be seeing some god damn benefits or ill be straight over on your bb forums to moan my ass off.

Question: when i start them, should I be doing it on a leg day? or is it quite an exhaustive thing that you dont really wanna be doing too many thigns before you whack out a deadlift. i assume, despite the amount of muscles it works, its one of htel ast thigns you wanna do because of the huge increase in hormones you get. or is something you need to do first?

what kind of sets and reps should you be looking to do? still stick with the classic hypertrophy plan of 3 sets of 8-10? or is it more of an exercise you dont go for hypertrophy on?

EDIT: another Q, if i do dead lifts tomorrow, how much does it take out of you? I want to paly football in the evening, but if its gonna drain me big time ill avoid it. I think i might just practice technique tomorrow so i shouldnt really do any damage then.

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just saw this on my news feed. cant wait to get in the gym now
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=257726617697664&set=vb.552479714780967&type=2&theater

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I agree with a lot of what you say to a certain extent. But If all you want to do is to get bigger muscles, then isolation workouts work a charm. Me, personally, before ive started this little bulk up period, the resistance stuff i did was specific to my sport to help me improve performance. Which i can see why a dead lift can imrpove performance if your everyday life includes picking shit off a floor (which is actually what i do as a part time job ) I dont know whether people see the dead lift as a good exercise because you work lots of muscles, and again, unless its being used as a kidn of shortcut, i dont see why you dont go and work the muscles seperately. as said before, the chemical spikes that would happen all over the body are the only real benefit i see.

I dont think you did sprints right if you noticed no difference, espeically in your hmstrings. and you can add progressive resitance to a sprint exercise with sledges/parachutes/hills. if you did it competatively, your training regime must have had some flaws, coach to blame for that.

And with shrugs, i think its one of the most commonly poorly exectuted exercises ever. If theres one thing id say to anyone starting to build a bit of muscle, its learn the muscular anatomy of the human body. find out where the major muscles you want to work are, their origins and where they insert. i see people hold some dumbells right by their side and shrug.... wtf is that shit?! the traps, the upper part of the traps, has an origin at the back of the head and top of the spinal column, and inserts on the outer part of your clavicle. to work them properly you need to be holding your weights away from your body. something as simple as that improves a workout. know the anatomy and it makes things so much better.

I look forward to doing deadlifts and i better be seeing some god damn benefits or ill be straight over on your bb forums to moan my ass off.

Question: when i start them, should I be doing it on a leg day? or is it quite an exhaustive thing that you dont really wanna be doing too many thigns before you whack out a deadlift. i assume, despite the amount of muscles it works, its one of htel ast thigns you wanna do because of the huge increase in hormones you get. or is something you need to do first?

what kind of sets and reps should you be looking to do? still stick with the classic hypertrophy plan of 3 sets of 8-10? or is it more of an exercise you dont go for hypertrophy on?

EDIT: another Q, if i do dead lifts tomorrow, how much does it take out of you? I want to paly football in the evening, but if its gonna drain me big time ill avoid it. I think i might just practice technique tomorrow so i shouldnt really do any damage then.

If you haven't done them before and push yourself - you cant walk.

[SinineUltra 1,170]

lol shrugs are about the most useless exercise ever. deadlift has nothing to do with traps. Deadlift makes you bigger overall, it is THE compound lift. Everyone who can do deadlifts should do them. It is simply one of the most natural and basic movement of the human bio mechanism

I've been around bb scene, forums, websites&stuff for almost 2 years + I have been competitive sprinter,too. Sprint + deadlifts are totally different. You can't compare that. You can workt with progressive overload in a sprint workout, which is THE basic principle in bb.

Some people might get bigger by sprint but that is rather the exception than the rule.

When I started sprinting not even my quads&hams got any bigger. They did when i started with squat and leg press.

Deadlifts are also great cos deadlift+ only bench press, squat and maybe also pull up, schoulder press and bent over row are everything you have to do to work your entire body effectively. Forget your shrugs∨ other isolation bullshit.

You're right about deadlifts and its importance apart from it not training traps. It's not a rule of thumb that it only hits hamstrings and lower back - it also works your triceps, arms in general, front legs,core, shoulders, traps - the whole nine yards. How so? All these muscles have to balance so it is sort of a negative movement for them. Try holding a heavy, heavy barbell up for a long time - see if your traps ache the next day.

[Leif 6,006]

Eurgh. I absolutely hate having a heart murmur. Really disrupts my agility and endurance when running or even jogging because the blood pumps around at an irregular rate. Had to stop after only 10 minutes on the treadmill there before I felt super anxious. Oh well. Can only build on this and try make my heart stronger!

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Eurgh. I absolutely hate having a heart murmur. Really disrupts my agility and endurance when running or even jogging because the blood pumps around at an irregular rate. Had to stop after only 10 minutes on the treadmill there before I felt super anxious. Oh well. Can only build on this and try make my heart stronger!

Have you tried running on natural turf?

[lucio 5,418]

I follow a book called convict conditioning and it teaches you progressions to very hard bodyweight moves like 1 arm pushups , 1 arm pullups , 1 arm handstand pushups , 1 leg squats ect ect. really good for getting insane strength. i am doing this and working on sprinting

[SinineUltra 1,170]

Will try to work hard until autumn doing strength and cardio to gain endurance and get into MMA. Been thinking of it for a long time but time to make it a reality. Stats: 180cm, 84kgs. Body fat around 15% after bulking for the past 4 months, still a definition in abs. Will get leaner with the summer and all that coming. Strength wise will aim for max benching 120-130kgs solidly. At the moment it's 105-110kgs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgQhxp_Y9Js

[Korea 734]

Lost half a kg only.

BLAST IT Chocolate Chip Cookies...

(I should prob. start working out and dieting, rather than just dieting.

[Korea 734]

Will try to work hard until autumn doing strength and cardio to gain endurance and get into MMA. Been thinking of it for a long time but time to make it a reality. Stats: 180cm, 84kgs. Body fat around 15% after bulking for the past 4 months, still a definition in abs. Will get leaner with the summer and all that coming. Strength wise will aim for max benching 120-130kgs solidly. At the moment it's 105-110kgs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgQhxp_Y9Js

How are you measuring you bf? I use a Terralion lcd scale that measures bf, however, I am not sure of its accuracy.

When I put it on athlete mode, I'm like 10-12bf, however, when I put as normal, I'm like 19-22bf. So, I just assume, I'm at 22, lol.

Right now, I'm at like 77kgs. I need to get down to 70-72 kgs, before I start doing any strength training again... Than, hopefully, I can drop down more to 69-71kg. (Gosh, I haven't done pulls ups/chin ups or my pushups since November).

[Leif 6,006]

148lbs now... The weight is sliding off like butter all of a sudden..

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148lbs now... The weight is sliding off like butter all of a sudden..

Congrats man! your progress as truely been impressive.

How are you measuring you bf? I use a Terralion lcd scale that measures bf, however, I am not sure of its accuracy.

When I put it on athlete mode, I'm like 10-12bf, however, when I put as normal, I'm like 19-22bf. So, I just assume, I'm at 22, lol.

Right now, I'm at like 77kgs. I need to get down to 70-72 kgs, before I start doing any strength training again... Than, hopefully, I can drop down more to 69-71kg. (Gosh, I haven't done pulls ups/chin ups or my pushups since November).

I wouldnt worry too much about body fat. every single way you measure it is open to a lot of error. just keep a visual eye on it and pinch your skin every now and then. thats what i do now. when i had access to all the half decent machines my body fat varied from 8% - 18% so its not exactly accurate. and you are suppose to give around 5% either side of each reading for error....

when i leanrt how to do the skin folds, i just pinch my self in those locations and get a feel for whats going on. its in no way accurate because there is no measurement, but it gives me a rough idea.

Im on day 7 of the bulk up phase at the moment and im feeling good. by good i mean i have a constant ache. but its a good ache. that ache that makes you feel like you;ve achieved something. Im going to do the same thing next week before i start substituting some workouts for othersand adding dead lifts. its good, because all ive actually done is take out 2 cardio sessions from my old routine and replaced them with weight sessions. so im doing 5 weight sessions a week at the moment and 2 cardio/playing football. and im feeling good nad confident of progress.

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How are you measuring you bf? I use a Terralion lcd scale that measures bf, however, I am not sure of its accuracy.

When I put it on athlete mode, I'm like 10-12bf, however, when I put as normal, I'm like 19-22bf. So, I just assume, I'm at 22, lol.

Right now, I'm at like 77kgs. I need to get down to 70-72 kgs, before I start doing any strength training again... Than, hopefully, I can drop down more to 69-71kg. (Gosh, I haven't done pulls ups/chin ups or my pushups since November).

I've had my bf measured before with machines and constantly have a visual how my body should look like at certain bf levels. It's no way accurate but if there's ab definition it can't be that high. Hope you achieve your goal mate.

[SinineUltra 1,170]

Congrats man! your progress as truely been impressive.

I wouldnt worry too much about body fat. every single way you measure it is open to a lot of error. just keep a visual eye on it and pinch your skin every now and then. thats what i do now. when i had access to all the half decent machines my body fat varied from 8% - 18% so its not exactly accurate. and you are suppose to give around 5% either side of each reading for error....

when i leanrt how to do the skin folds, i just pinch my self in those locations and get a feel for whats going on. its in no way accurate because there is no measurement, but it gives me a rough idea.

Im on day 7 of the bulk up phase at the moment and im feeling good. by good i mean i have a constant ache. but its a good ache. that ache that makes you feel like you;ve achieved something. Im going to do the same thing next week before i start substituting some workouts for othersand adding dead lifts. its good, because all ive actually done is take out 2 cardio sessions from my old routine and replaced them with weight sessions. so im doing 5 weight sessions a week at the moment and 2 cardio/playing football. and im feeling good nad confident of progress.

Good on you mate. What are your goals?

I'm taking my 4th day off training today - feels like eternity though it's only 4 days. Will get back go gym tomorrow for some chest and triceps day. The reason I took the break was because of studying and most of all I started to experience over training symptoms - fatigue, joint/muscle pains, insomnia etc. Refilled protein and creatine stocks a few days ago so should be ready to keep going strong from now on. Bought 100% whey protein so will see if it is as good as the reviews are.