The Benitez Thread

[robdog 2,084]

well maybe telly tubby's agent should speak w/ his client & try to convince him to apologize to the fans. I know some of you think telly tubby doesn't have to do this, but IMHO this could help smooth out the relationship w/ the fans. It's freakin' obvious that the fans support is lackin & the team's performance has mirrored this. The fan's are the 12th man & that is true w/ CFC.

[Sheva. 5,373]

and it was just a blip being tactically outwitted by Big Sam on Saturday

Lmao tactically outwitted? the tactical decision was a quite obvious one for Fat Sam; we have a lot of small players so they just started hoofing the ball non stop.

Nothing genius about it.

[Sheva. 5,373]

All that we now can hope for is the players respond in the right manner and prove Benitez wrong when he said the team lack characters. If not...

The team does though. Our captain is out, vice captain also out/declining, and 3rd captain has left. Who's going to rally the troops? the goalkeeper? meh.

[Fulham Broadway 17,339]

Lmao tactically outwitted? the tactical decision was a quite obvious one for Fat Sam; we have a lot of small players so they just started hoofing the ball non stop.

Nothing genius about it.

Clever enough to outfox Tubby

[robdog 2,084]

And, If they bring that unt Grant back then I'll be throwing my toys out of the pram, BIG time. What a deadly duo that would be. Dear fucking god :wank2:

Relax homie, those were just media rumors. The Millwall Legend won't be coming back to Da Bridge, unless he pays for a ticket.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Clever enough to outfox Tubby

Not really, the previous 2 games we have defended decently enough, surely better than at anytime in the previous games JT has been out.

But there's nothing this squad can do against teams like West ham etc, and it is not Rafa's fault.

Would have been slightly different if JT was back there, because he bosses everything in the air.

[Jase 43,479]

The team does though. Our captain is out, vice captain also out/declining, and 3rd captain has left. Who's going to galvanize the boys? the goalkeeper? meh.

This is really the time for the rest of them to step up and be counted. Cech, Ivanovic, Cole, those senior players that have been here for awhile now. Said this before, no doubt that Terry and Lampard are important to us in terms of their leadership but if we are desparately relying on them to improve, then I fear for our future. Think we all discussed this in the 'Who's Our Next Captain?' thread before. Apart from Terry and Lampard, one can hardly pick out a really great leader for the team. There's not one who is vocal, possess a strong character, authoritative when needed etc. No one really stands out from the squad.

[Fulham Broadway 17,339]

Not really, the previous 2 games we have defended decently enough, surely better than at anytime in the previous games JT has been out.

But there's nothing this squad can do against teams like West ham etc, and it is not Rafa's fault.

Would have been slightly different if JT was back there, because he bosses everything in the air.

Like I said hes the first to lose to West Ham.

We all know why the fat bastard was brought in -like your namesake Sheva -it was to indulge the owners fantasy that some how he can get the best out of the £50m hairband, like in some way Laurel cant perform without Hardy

[robdog 2,084]

Like I said hes the first to lose to West Ham.

We all know why the fat bastard was brought in -like your namesake Sheva -it was to indulge the owners fantasy that some how he can get the best out of the £50m hairband, like in some way Laurel cant perform without Hardy

Love the Laurel & Hardy reference

[Fulham Broadway 17,339]

Not really, the previous 2 games we have defended decently enough, surely better than at anytime in the previous games JT has been out.

But there's nothing this squad can do against teams like West ham etc, and it is not Rafa's fault.

Would have been slightly different if JT was back there, because he bosses everything in the air.

Well he did out wit him. They won 3-1. You listen to the managers at the end Allardyce made sense whilst FSW waffled on like Grant

[Fulham Broadway 17,339]

Love the Laurel & Hardy reference

Haha thats begging for someone to photoshop Torres and Rafa

[Jase 43,479]

Not really, the previous 2 games we have defended decently enough, surely better than at anytime in the previous games JT has been out.

But there's nothing this squad can do against teams like West ham etc, and it is not Rafa's fault.

Would have been slightly different if JT was back there, because he bosses everything in the air.

Well he did out wit him. They won 3-1. You listen to the managers at the end Allardyce made sense whilst FSW waffled on like Grant

Tactically outwit Benitez or not, the fact remains that Allardyce realized the problems with his team, fixed it at HT especially with those 2 changes and completely overran us in the second half. Benitez did not react and hardly changed anything to stem the flow of West Ham's attacks. Players did not perform then but Benitez was certainly at fault too.

[Leif 6,006]

You're all just haters. Rafa has what it takes to become one of the top 5 managers of all time and our best ever.

[Fulham Broadway 17,339]

Tactically outwit Benitez or not, the fact remains that Allardyce realized the problems with his team, fixed it at HT especially with those 2 changes and completely overran us in the second half. Benitez did not react and hardly changed anything to stem the flow of West Ham's attacks. Players did not perform then but Benitez was certainly at fault too.

First loss to West Ham since 2002 and not winning a league game in. 7 games since 1995.

Fucking hell we should get Hoddle in to advise......

[Sheva. 5,373]

Tactically outwit Benitez or not, the fact remains that Allardyce realized the problems with his team, fixed it at HT especially with those 2 changes and completely overran us in the second half. Benitez did not react and hardly changed anything to stem the flow of West Ham's attacks. Players did not perform then but Benitez was certainly at fault too.

What changes could have been made? i did not see one player on the bench that could have changed the game, all our players are very similar.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Well he did out wit him. They won 3-1. You listen to the managers at the end Allardyce made sense whilst FSW waffled on like Grant

I could 'outwit' this Chelsea side with a team like Stoke or West ham, and that's my point.

[zolayes 14,489]

Not really, the previous 2 games we have defended decently enough, surely better than at anytime in the previous games JT has been out.

But there's nothing this squad can do against teams like West ham etc, and it is not Rafa's fault.

Would have been slightly different if JT was back there, because he bosses everything in the air.

If we CAN'T beat teams like West Ham we are truly fucked ,,,cos who the hell will we be able to beat.???

[Jase 43,479]

What changes could have been made? i did not see one player on the bench that could have changed the game, all our players are very similar.

Bring Romeu on and change to a 4-3-3? Midfield was overran in that second half and Mikel and Ramires was struggling badly. As soon as West Ham got the ball, their midfield just broke forward knowing well that whoever was in CAM(Mata or Hazard) won't track back and they had us outnumbered in the central area.

[Sheva. 5,373]

If we CAN'T beat teams like West Ham we are truly fucked ,,,cos who the hell will we be able to beat.???

It's a tougher game than it sounds, especially away. Man city did not win there either, and they have much more physical players than us.

The minute Diame came on the game changed, he pushed Mata around like he wasn't even there - and those fucking long balls are a nightmare to deal with.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Bring Romeu on and change to a 4-3-3? Midfield was overran in that second half and Mikel and Ramires was struggling badly. As soon as West Ham got the ball, their midfield just broke forward knowing well that whoever was in CAM(Mata or Hazard) won't track back and they had us outnumbered in the central area.

That would have been a minor change, and wouldn't stop them from bullying us in the air. It also would not stop Diame from running around like he owns the midfield lol.