Midfielders and Defenders

[Spike 12,049]

Yes you speak to rmpr ON MY THREAD, so if you're going to be an arse to me, then please go before you over hear the bell when i talk.

You said you were angry, very angry at the currnet situation. Hence, my reasoning to believe that you had a knee jerk reaction. I believe he would not have made this thread if you were not angry, thus is you weren't angry, there would be no knee jerk reaction.

The loss was the hammer, you the knee and this thread the jerk.

That is all.

[Kojo 4,676]

You said you were angry, very angry at the currnet situation. Hence, my reasoning to believe that you had a knee jerk reaction. I believe he would not have made this thread if you were not angry, thus is you weren't angry, there would be no knee jerk reaction.

That is all.

Your post makes no sense, but i tell you what does make sense. The fact you cannot read, when i previously stated that i wont deny i am pissed, however this post isn't a knee jerk reaction.

The funny thing is how can it be a knee jerk reaction, the match finished like 6 hours ago. Plus i had to copy and paste all my writing a few hours after because the forums server was down for a while, so i wouldn't of posted it then if i had gotten over it. But that's not the point because it's not a knee jerk reaction in the first place, so go take your stupid accusations elsewhere, perhaps the pub as your posts are completely irrelevant to the topic.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Ashley Cole is incredibly overrated, it makes me angry when he makes mistakes no one has a pop at him, and he's playing consistently poor.

We just got outplayed by Juve, there's no exaggeration, it's not good enough. I'M TIRED OF THE EXCUSES!, we keep getting smashed and controlled by teams in the centre. But we keep getting these mindless excuses all the time, yeah well you gotta get some good ones if we keep losing like this.

I know we got outplayed, there are mistakes in some major areas that need to be taken care. However, it is not like all of our players suck and we need to get rid of most of them.

I honest feel we just need to get rid of Torres and Luiz (if he continues his poor form). Our major problem is eachone`s role and lack of training and leardership. We have a lot to improve, but it is not by buying a bunch of new players that this will be resolved. The board and coaching staff must study and analyse what the issues are and discuss what to do to improve it. Of course we lack better players in the positions I described above, but all the problems (besides striker) must be dealt without spending money (at least this season). They are RDM`s job, not Roaman`s. he already gave us 80mi in excellent players this season...

[Spike 12,049]

Your post makes no sense, but i tell you what does make sense. The fact you cannot read, when i previously stated that i wont deny i am pissed, however this post isn't a knee jerk reaction.

The funny thing is how can it be a knee jerk reaction, the match finished like 6 hours ago. Plus i had to copy and paste all my writing a few hours after because the forums server was down for a while, so i wouldn't of posted it then if i had gotten over it. But that's not the point because it's not a knee jerk reaction in the first place, so go take your stupid accusations elsewhere, perhaps the pub as your posts are completely irrelevant to the topic.

If my posts are irrelevant then so are yours, don't hold yourself to a different standard. You could have just ignored me, but you didn't and you exasperated the situation.

If I can't read how can I type? Quite a contradictory statement, if I say so myself.

[Kojo 4,676]

If my posts are irrelevant then so are yours, don't hold yourself to a different standard. You could have just ignored me, but you didn't and you exasperated the situation.

If I can't read how can I type? Quite a contradictory statement, if I say so myself.

Well anyone can just press a button, because that's all you seem to be doing, because your posts are bull shit anyway.

[Kojo 4,676]

I know we got outplayed, there are mistakes in some major areas that need to be taken care. However, it is not like all of our players suck and we need to get rid of most of them.

I honest feel we just need to get rid of Torres and Luiz (if he continues his poor form). Our major problem is eachone`s role and lack of training and leardership. We have a lot to improve, but it is not by buying a bunch of new players that this will be resolved. The board and coaching staff must study and analyse what the issues are and discuss what to do to improve it. Of course we lack better players in the positions I described above, but all the problems (besides striker) must be dealt without spending money (at least this season). They are RDM`s job, not Roaman`s. he already gave us 80mi in excellent players this season...

Quit the delusions, there's no chemistry in this, get some new fucking players.

I never said get rid of everyone, but people like Cole need to move on, David Luiz especially.

I wont want three out, Ivanovic is a maybe I'm not so sure about that one. That's not because he's poor though that's because i don't believe he will fit the required system but who knows. I'm sick of all the excuses, we lack so much it's uncanny it really is. Big teams don't get outplayed like that, and I'm dreading the City game, Luiz will get fucking murdered.

[Spike 12,049]

Well anyone can just press a button, because that's all you seem to be doing, because your posts are bull shit anyway.

I think your posts are just controversial nonsense created for the sole purpose of reinforcing your innate desire to feel that your opinion actually means something in the grand scheme of things. You have an inferiority complex and that manifests itself into hostile reactions against those you feel threatened by or those that you feel are undeserving of their status in life. If you weren't so insecure you would not be so aggressive.

Is that bullshit enough for the mighty Slojo? Do I need to contine shooting because you just keep on giving me ammunition?

[Rmpr 8,977]

Quit the delusions, there's no chemistry in this, get some new fucking players.

I never said get rid of everyone, but people like Cole need to move on, David Luiz especially.

I wont want three out, Ivanovic is a maybe I'm not so sure about that one. That's not because he's poor though that's because i don't believe he will fit the required system but who knows. I'm sick of all the excuses, we lack so much it's uncanny it really is. Big teams don't get outplayed like that, and I'm dreading the City game, Luiz will get fucking murdered.

Why do you create a thread to debate if you dont accept anyone`s opinion?

Do you want us to spend how much more money? It will be hard to sell those not needed and will inflate the squad.

Cant you see top players without proper preparation and training dont go anywhere? Buying will not solve our problems if they dont train properly.

[Reddish-Blue 2,347]

Quit the delusions, there's no chemistry in this, get some new fucking players.

I never said get rid of everyone, but people like Cole need to move on, David Luiz especially.

I wont want three out, Ivanovic is a maybe I'm not so sure about that one. That's not because he's poor though that's because i don't believe he will fit the required system but who knows. I'm sick of all the excuses, we lack so much it's uncanny it really is. Big teams don't get outplayed like that, and I'm dreading the City game, Luiz will get fucking murdered.

Thats why you don't use Luiz against City. Use Brana - Cahill till JT gets back, with Azpi at RB.

[Kojo 4,676]

I think your posts are just controversial nonsense created for the sole purpose of reinforcing your innate desire to feel that your opinion actually means something in the grand scheme of things. You have an inferiority complex and that manifests itself into hostile reactions against those you feel threatened by or those that you feel are undeserving of their status in life. If you weren't so insecure you would not be so aggressive.

Is that bullshit enough for the mighty Slojo? Do I need to contine shooting because you just keep on giving me ammunition?

Woah, so much bull shit i can't take it all.

You really must of got bullied at school seriously, that shit ain't normal one bit. I don't mind speaking in a better sense because you know that's good, but that's just trying to sound clever, get over yourself clown and know who you really are and most of all know your place. Because you aren't shit, you could get shot and die just like everybody else so shut your cake hole mr I'm so superior to everyone else.

[Kojo 4,676]

Why do you create a thread to debate if you dont accept anyone`s opinion?

Do you want us to spend how much more money? It will be hard to sell those not needed and will inflate the squad.

Cant you see top players without proper preparation and training dont go anywhere? Buying will not solve our problems if they dont train properly.

I can accept opinions, but I'm hearing this nonsense too much. This give time, and all this. People like Mikel have already had enough time and they've always been shit, and i tell you what proves they've always been shit is the fact how you get those people who dig up old articles and say how all his work is overlooked, players who have had that type of stuff done to them are shit. If a player is that good he doesn't get overlooked, it just doesn't happen and it's never happened. It's time to just move on and let go really, Ramires was brutal, however i still think he's good enough to remain in this team.

Obviously buying will solve our problems because we will actually buy good players. So you're saying if we didn't buy De Rossi he would be shit?, and no way near as good as Mikel?, wouldn't happen. But what also wouldn't happen is that we wouldn't get De Rossi sadly, as he's too loyal to Roma.

[Spike 12,049]

Woah, so much bull shit i can't take it all.

You really must of got bullied at school seriously, that shit ain't normal one bit. I don't mind speaking in a better sense because you know that's good, but that's just trying to sound clever, get over yourself clown and know who you really are and most of all know your place. Because you aren't shit, you could get shot and die just like everybody else so shut your cake hole mr I'm so superior to everyone else.

Mate, I know who I am, just another person going through life. I'm just another bloke who has stupid opinions, stupid ideas, stupid moments in life just like eveyone else, just like you. I can't take it seriously. It's fucking football, it's the fucking internet, it's fucking anonymous people over the internet. How can I take any of this shit seriously? If you take it seriously that's fine by me, that's your choice. Football is just something I use to escape for 90 minutes, I forget about everything else for 90 mins. Sometimes I do get upset about it, but I move on to frying bigger things. So forgive me if I can't follow you analytical debate the way you want me to. I'm not going to bend into something that I think I'm not.

I wasn't bullied either, but I did get into fights rather often, but that does happen when you have a temper and the will to stand up for yourself.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Obviously buying will solve our problems because we will actually buy good players. So you're saying if we didn't buy De Rossi he would be shit?, and no way near as good as Mikel?, wouldn't happen. But what also wouldn't happen is that we wouldn't get De Rossi sadly, as he's too loyal to Roma.

FUCK, you have a hard time understanding others point of view (I am not talking about me).

I am saying buying a good player does not mean he will thrive. He might not adpt to the language, city, coach, team mates, etc. He will need a good training session and a well planned one. That we dont have right now, so I think this is our main problem right now, not the players. I know De rossi is a better player, that is not what i am arguing.

I am only asking for us to try every possible way with our current players. Look at SAF, he tries everything before giving up. Sometimes it works (Rafael, De Gea, Wellbeck) and sometimes it doesnt (Anderson, Carrick, Nani, etc). When they dont, he buys a better player, but never goes buying a whole team in one transfer window.

We will get way less money this season, we have already spent 80mi and people still want us to spent another 80mi in January. This is insane!

We must work things out with what we have, we can improve only by training and buying a striker. There is no need for panic buys this season. Wait until we can fully evalute all our players, sell who we need in the summer and then buy the right replacements.

[Kojo 4,676]

Mate, I know who I am, just another person going through life. I'm just another bloke who has stupid opinions, stupid ideas, stupid moments in life just like eveyone else, just like you. I can't take it seriously. It's fucking football, it's the fucking internet, it's fucking anonymous people over the internet. How can I take any of this shit seriously? If you take it seriously that's fine by me, that's your choice. Football is just something I use to escape for 90 minutes, I forget about everything else for 90 mins. Sometimes I do get upset about it, but I move on to frying bigger things. So forgive me if I can't follow you analytical debate the way you want me to. I'm not going to bend into something that I think I'm not.

I wasn't bullied either, but I did get into fights rather often, but that does happen when you have a temper and the will to stand up for yourself.

Yeah yeah, you're probably typing that with a black eye,,, nerdeskke

[Kojo 4,676]

FUCK you have a hard time understanding others point of view (I am not talking about me).

I am saying buying a good player does not mean he will thrive. He might not adpt to the language, city, coach, team mates, etc. He will need a good training session and a well planned one. That we dont have right now, so I think this is our main problem right now, not the players. I know De rossi is a better player, that is not what i am arguing.

I am only asking for us to try every possible way with our current players. Look at SAF, he tries everything before giving up. Sometimes it works (Rafael, De Gea, Wellbeck) and sometimes it doesnt (Anderson, Carrick, Nani, etc). When they dont, he buys a better player, but never goes buying a whole team in one transfer window.

We will get way less money this season, we have already spent 80mi and people still want us to spent another 80mi in January. That is insane!

We must work thing out if what we have, we can improve only by training and buying a striker. There is no need for panic buys this season. Wait until we can fully evalute all our players, sell who we need in the summer and then buy the right replacements.

That's really unnecessary.

Oh and you think my post is that one dimensional, that i seemed to forgot players are actually people. Well if i was that stupid i wouldn't have the brain to go on a forum in the first place.

[Spike 12,049]

Yeah yeah, you're probably typing that with a black eye,,, nerdeskke

Two black eyes and a broken fibula, actually.

[Kojo 4,676]

Two black eyes and a broken fibula, actually.

I said one black eye so it's one black eye, but you just wont end it will you.

I've got a much easier and COOLER way to end all of this. HOW ABOUT....

I be Jay and you be silent bob, there now shut it.

[Rmpr 8,977]

That's really unnecessary.

Oh and you think my post is that one dimensional, that i seemed to forgot players are actually people. Well if i was that stupid i wouldn't have the brain to go on a forum in the first place.

Kojo, you just proved my point.

I am in no position to be giving you such advise, but I feel compelled to do it. Being unflexibel wont take you anywhere, it might not provoque any conseguence in this forum, but it will in your life. Stop trying to fight everyone else and try to understand what they are trying to say, then (with you disagree) give your arguments instead of provoking.