Rmpr 8,977 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Maybe you should have a look at the Goals & Objectives the Trust are trying to achieve.Mate, I really liked the idea!I M P R E S S I V E :cfc: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Obviously you don't have a clue of what the Supporter's Trust can do for the club supporters. Maybe you should have a look at the Goals & Objectives the Trust are trying to achieve.Create a voice, establish links etc. It's very light on specifics.It's hard to judge how effective it could be without knowing what issues it actually wants to address. Apparently the ultimate goal is to get someone on the board, which some cynical people might think is simply a bit of wish fulfilment for someone to play Football Manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Create a voice, establish links etc. It's very light on specifics.It's hard to judge how effective it could be without knowing what issues it actually wants to address. Apparently the ultimate goal is to get someone on the board, which some cynical people might think is simply a bit of wish fulfilment for someone to play Football Manager.Act as an effective means of communication between club and supportersI am not sure how this will fulfill a person's dream, especially if they don't meet the standards of the Trust then the rep won't be able to maintain their position as the Trust's Representative. The Trust will elect a member to represent the fan's view to sit on the board. To be elected you will need to have everything in order. I don't think one can be an armchair gaffer & get elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Act as an effective means of communication between club and supportersYeah, I got that from reading it. What I didn't get is an example of the type of issues they want to communicate about. Without knowing that it's hard to know what to think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Yeah, I got that from reading it.What I didn't get is an example of the type of issues they want to communicate about. Without knowing that it's hard to know what to think.Right now the Trust is still in a formative stage. The last I heard was a constitution was going to be developed first. Also that the membership drive hasn't begun yet either. One positive though is the fact the Trust will meet w/ Ron Gorlay in Jan. So I am getting excited about the formation of the Trust. I only see positives from this group, plus it will represent CFC fans WorldWide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Obviously you don't have a clue of what the Supporter's Trust can do for the club supporters. Maybe you should have a look at the Goals & Objectives the Trust are trying to achieve.Sounds like a load of old blah blah blah...Not needed it till now, see no pressing need now...With the rise of Social Media the club can communicate easily and freely with me...I don't need a doofus in the middle to represent my views?But hey, if that's what floats your boat - best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Right now the Trust is still in a formative stage. The last I heard was a constitution was going to be developed first. Also that the membership drive hasn't begun yet either. One positive though is the fact the Trust will meet w/ Ron Gorlay in Jan. So I am getting excited about the formation of the Trust. I only see positives from this group, plus it will represent CFC fans WorldWide.It's great that they've got a meeting but I can't see a single thing about what they actually want to say to him. I feel like I'm repeating myself but I really don't have a clue what issues they actually want to put to the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 If or when you get a meeting with the board, will you have the guts to speak what's really on supporters minds, like that Torres and Rafa suck and must be kicked out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 It sounds nice in theory, but honestly unless we are part owners like they do at AFC Wimbledon what can REALLY be done?The couple of quid we pay to see them doesnt even phase them anymore when they know worldwide revenues come more from winning and television rights. Its literally a corporation no different from BP now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 If or when you get a meeting with the board, will you have the guts to speak what's really on supporters minds, like that Torres and Rafa suck and must be kicked out?I dont know how ours will work, but at Inter (Porto Alegre) and Fenerbahce, the fans group really say what the supporters want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 If or when you get a meeting with the board, will you have the guts to speak what's really on supporters minds, like that Torres and Rafa suck and must be kicked out?"It is a pleasure and a privilege for me to be with you today. I would like to thank for that opportunity and on behalf of the supporters around the globe, may I speak with what they had in mind for few weeks now: FUCK RAFA AND TORRES!!! Thank you." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 There are some good examples where the Trust & Club work in tandem on issue. Like the issue w/ Rangers this week. You can see how the fans worked w/ the club & staged a boycott vs. Dundee United. I don't see nothing wrong w/ actions like this. Like anything you start small & create a working relationship. Oh Muzhap, just encase you didn't know this, but 12 other EPL clubs have Supporter Trusts. Clubs like Man U & Arsenal. So if you don't want to join. Don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted February 9, 2013 Author Share Posted February 9, 2013 I received tweets today that the Chelsea Supporters Trust started up today @ the CIU club. Kerry Dixon was the Guest in Honor & there were so many people there to sign up, that not everyone could get inside the club. If you want more info on how to become a member, click here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 There are some good examples where the Trust & Club work in tandem on issue. Like the issue w/ Rangers this week. You can see how the fans worked w/ the club & staged a boycott vs. Dundee United. I don't see nothing wrong w/ actions like this. Like anything you start small & create a working relationship. Oh Muzhap, just encase you didn't know this, but 12 other EPL clubs have Supporter Trusts. Clubs like Man U & Arsenal. So if you don't want to join. Don't.Chill - just not sure if its going to effective or not...When this was created it was knee-jerk after RDMs sacking...Need to see some more specifics, if it's worthwhile - of course I will join Hmm using Arse as an example - hasn't helped them whilst they have been selling their best players every season for the past 6 seasons? Thank God ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 Chill - just not sure if its going to effective or not...When this was created it was knee-jerk after RDMs sacking...Need to see some more specifics, if it's worthwhile - of course I will join Hmm using Arse as an example - hasn't helped them whilst they have been selling their best players every season for the past 6 seasons? Thank God ;) Bro you do know that you responded to my post from Dec xD The Trust was being setup long before that mate. I went to London in Sept & they had meetings then. The Trust wasn't a knee jerk reaction to RDM's firing. it was a process that was well planed out. I provided info for you, but you refused to see what I was saying. If don't believe me, speak to a rep @ the CFC Supporter's Trust website. Remember knowledge is the key to end all of your woes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Bro you do know that you responded to my post from Dec xD The Trust was being setup long before that mate. I went to London in Sept & they had meetings then. The Trust wasn't a knee jerk reaction to RDM's firing. it was a process that was well planed out. I provided info for you, but you refused to see what I was saying. If don't believe me, speak to a rep @ the CFC Supporter's Trust website. Remember knowledge is the key to end all of your woes.Ok - it feels so long ago I was / am hearing you Will keep an eye on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Apparently this is what Arsenal's 'supporters trust' do.http://www.arsenaltrust.org/activity/what-we-doAnd this is the United one.http://www.joinmust.org/about/index.phpIt's raison d'etre is apparently simple - We envisage a future where the supporters of Manchester United FC have a meaningful ownership stake in the club.That doesn't seem likely in our case so I'm still not sure what the point of the whole thing is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Apparently this is what Arsenal's 'supporters trust' do.http://www.arsenaltrust.org/activity/what-we-doAnd this is the United one.http://www.joinmust.org/about/index.phpIt's raison d'etre is apparently simple - We envisage a future where the supporters of Manchester United FC have a meaningful ownership stake in the club.That doesn't seem likely in our case so I'm still not sure what the point of the whole thing is.Yup, that was my concern - the trust will be paid lip service whilst decisions are continually made without any thought or inclusion...It's like a cleaner trying to get face time with the president of a company - not gonna happen (although it should)!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 Yup, that was my concern - the trust will be paid lip service whilst decisions are continually made without any thought or inclusion...It's like a cleaner trying to get face time with the president of a company - not gonna happen (although it should)!!!Well the Trust did meet w/ Gorlay last month. IMHO that is a start for a positive dialogue w/ the fans & the Board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Well the Trust did meet w/ Gorlay last month. IMHO that is a start for a positive dialogue w/ the fans & the Board.A positive dialogue to say what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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