Smallest squad we've had?

[themightyblue 443]

You think so? I've pretty much summed it up how i see it. And trust me, I'm one of the least negative on this board.

Our squad is

Goalkeepers: Cech, Turnbull, Hilario

Defenders: Ivanovic, Azpilicueta, Terry, Cahill, Luiz, Cole, Bertrand, Ferreira

Midfielders: Mikel, Lampard, Meireles, Romeu, Ramires, Oscar

Attacking midfielders: Hazard, Moses, Mata, Marin, Oscar, Ramires, Malouda

Strikers: Torres, Sturridge, Bamford/Piazon

In terms of squad, the only teams in the premiership who have a better squad is City and arguably United (think we're pretty much on par, but they may have more quality maybe). We can talk about injuries, but it is all hypothetical. If Spurs lose Bale they'll be in trouble, if Arsenal lose Cazorla they'll be in trouble, if United lose Evra there in trouble. Our squad is easily good enough to get top 4 as well as put up a fight in the cup competitions. Add a CM and Striker and it's good enough to challenge for the League

[Strike 7,474]

I don't agree. Our wing and attacking midfield positions are pretty strong and we have a pretty good defense. Midfield is the problem yes and our strikers are yet to prove themselves.

agree with attacking mid but i disagree with the defence. our defence is over-rated. john terry, david luiz and gary cahill are good defenders on their day but are hardly world class. branislav ivanovic is being turned inside out by championship wingers and him and ashley cole getting forward so often doesn't really help the defence.

[Bambiny14 25]

May I ask everyone criticizing on here one thing? Would you write the same things about our players before yesterday's game? They had a bad game and this doesn't influence their overall talent. If they continue to perform badly, then I will consider critizing their abilities.

[Spike 12,049]

The one thing that shits me is that our weakest position is the midfield and what do we do? We loan out Yossi and Essien with no replacements lined up. Weakening the weakest position...

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

• 2 Branislav Ivanovic Safe as a centre back only.. He should never play on the right again.
  

Finally, I have been saying this for ages, centre back or don't play him. Funny though, some people think hes the best RB in the world. Can't remember when I said it last but about 8 different people on here replied saying I was speaking shit basically....

[termninja 5,290]

agree with attacking mid but i disagree with the defence. our defence is over-rated. john terry, david luiz and gary cahill are good defenders on their day but are hardly world class. branislav ivanovic is being turned inside out by championship wingers and him and ashley cole getting forward so often doesn't really help the defence.

Still better then most of what other teams have...can you find a better LB then Ash? If Luiz wasn't good, Barca wouldn't make a bid for him and Gary has proven that he is great. JT is getting old, but he is still really valuable to us and Ivanovic even though had a bad start of the season was one of our important players throughout the last 3 seasons. We also brought in Azpilicueta, one of the most talented right backs in the world. I'm having high hopes for him.

You also have to take into the account that defense gets exposed a lot on counters. When we close down, teams can only blow us or get a lucky goal.

[Strike 7,474]

I didn't mean attacking midfield and wings. It's the other areas that are worrying. Defence even more shaky than I had first thought. Double pivots are almost non existent. Striking department a bit light and taking a gamble with Torres and Sturridge.

its only natural to highlight the squad problems after a defeat, especially a heavy one as that. we have improved a lot from last season but given that we were a distant 6th last time around, it's expected that problems continue to persist.

[gary gordon 1,777]

Gary Cahill. Remember? Champions League final?

I'll give you that. But we wouldn't have used him if it wasn't for JTs mind explosion.. Very decent player though.

[Rowan_Osborn 58]

agree with attacking mid but i disagree with the defence. our defence is over-rated. john terry, david luiz and gary cahill are good defenders on their day but are hardly world class. branislav ivanovic is being turned inside out by championship wingers and him and ashley cole getting forward so often doesn't really help the defence.

I can't think of many better CBs that are available. Cahill and Luiz could be world class and Terry is, as he as shown at the Euros. Cahill and Luiz were amazing against Bayern and on that form i couldn't think of many better CBs. Last night was bad all round but it was a blip rather than the norm.

[gary gordon 1,777]

its only natural to highlight the squad problems after a defeat, especially a heavy one as that. we have improved a lot from last season but given that we were a distant 6th last time around, it's expected that problems continue to persist.

But have we really improved? Or was the game vs Athletico a massive wake up call? I mean sure we beat 2 championship sides and Newcastle, but are we really ready to play sides that can actually attack?

[bababoom 4,478]

I don't know whats wrong with David luiz.. when he first came here, he was rash, always out of position and when he had the ball he tried to take the whole team on... now not much has changed, he's still rash, he still goes out of position on a regular basis (although he has improved), and instead of trying to take the whole team on he now tries to pass it across the pitch which mostly always fails.

I know he's likable but if JT or Cahill performed the way he has for the best part of two seasons then we'll be saying JT's too old and that Cahill shouldn't be playing for top 4 team...

[Jase 43,479]

Smallest squad we have had?! Don't think so. The one we had as recent as in 2010/11 season was arguably much worse than this. We have more quality now in the squad than in previous seasons and it's just 1-3 areas that we need to add a little more quality.

[Strike 7,474]

Still better then most of what other teams have...can you find a better LB then Ash? If Luiz wasn't good, Barca wouldn't make a bid for him and Gary has proven that he is great. JT is getting old, but he is still really valuable to us and Ivanovic even though had a bad start of the season was one of our important players throughout the last 3 seasons. We also brought in Azpilicueta, one of the most talented right backs in the world. I'm having high hopes for him.

You also have to take into the account that defense gets exposed a lot on counters. When we close down, teams can only blow us.

the thing with luiz is not that he's bad but as a professional defender he has to cut down his mistakes. its been over a season now and he should really avoid mistakes like trying to play his way out of trouble against newcastle..

and i didnt mean the "defence" is bad but the defensive unit on the field is not as good as we think. as individuals they are good players but each one has his perks and the defence as a whole on the pitch is disjointed.

last season, we had 2 players in the pivot consistently helping out the defence and in bigger games it was the whole 11 behind the ball so we really can't judge the defence on the last season. this season they are pushing a bit higher up and trying to get a hold of the game ...they are still adapting to the new role imo

[Rowan_Osborn 58]

But have we really improved? Or was the game vs Athletico a massive wake up call? I mean sure we beat 2 championship sides and Newcastle, but are we really ready to play sides that can actually attack?

We have improved, we are much better in attack and our defence is as good as it was last year. Wigan are a good side and we have struggled at the DW recently, it was a good result. Against Reading we showed great determination to come back and the goals scored against us were a strange mistake form Cech and then some great attacking work.

[Strike 7,474]

I can't think of many better CBs that are available. Cahill and Luiz could be world class and Terry is, as he as shown at the Euros. Cahill and Luiz were amazing against Bayern and on that form i couldn't think of many better CBs. Last night was bad all round but it was a blip rather than the norm.

agree it was a blip but as i said cant really judge the defenders on last season. this season they are going to play a very different role