Melanicus 5,208 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 But its for the future. That list was supposed to be for players who can become very good wingers. Moses is another one in that category, if we bring him, we'll have to permanently sell De Bruyne or Sturridge or even Thorgen.Future, future... fuck future we can't go into season with two wingers and Malouda.If players are good enough they will beat their competition, if not they can fuck off.Kakuta has no future at club (he will probably be part of Azpilicueta deal and go to Marseille) and De Bruyne will be played centrally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopfzeichen 78 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 But its for the future. That list was supposed to be for players who can become very good wingers. Moses is another one in that category, if we bring him, we'll have to permanently sell De Bruyne or Sturridge or even Thorgen.You got it wrong my friend. Neither De Bruyne nor Sturridge nor Ramires are wingers. Mata is definitely not a winger. Thorgen at this point is an uncertainty, and Kakuta is probably in his way out and is also not a winger (he's more of a playmaker really). So by my account we only have Hazard (who for some reason doesn't want to play in the wing), Marin, Malouda and Benayoun (last two in the last year of their contracts). So the Moses buy makes a lot of sense as we need someone who can make the RW place his own. A true right winger. And the guy isn't bad as a goalscorer too. He played as a forward for Crystal Palace and scored some pretty predatory poacher style goals there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Future, future... fuck future we can't go into season with two wingers and Malouda.If players are good enough they will beat their competition, if not they can fuck off.Kakuta has no future at club (he will probably be part of Azpilicueta deal and go to Marseille) and De Bruyne will be played centrally.Moses is at a critical stage in his development.Just because someone doesn't like playing as a winger, it does not mean they won't be forced to play there. Just because they can play better elsewhere, does not mean Di Matteo won't pick them there. I'm sure the pecking order for right wing will look like this for this season:E. Hazard (is not an AM)MarinRamires (if the above two can't play, we don't need him at centre midfield or we have to play a counter attacking style)Sturridge (already done reasonably well here)MosesAnd left wing:Mata (won't beat Oscar to AM)E. HazardMarinMalouda (for the experience factor)MosesWe'll ruin his career. At this point he needs to be starting regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 With Moses on his way surely Malouda must go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Just because someone doesn't like playing as a winger, it does not mean they won't be forced to play there. Just because they can play better elsewhere, does not mean Di Matteo won't pick them there.That's true but it's short-term solution. It would be funny to play Ramires on right wing while there are so many other players on the market which their prime position is RW. It's stupid. Ramires can play on right wing and that's cool, but it's not his prime position, we should only use him there if all players are injured or in awful form.E. Hazard - LW, Marin - LW, Mata - CAM, Ramires - CM, Sturridge - ST, Moses - RW, Malouda - LW.So possibly we will risk and count either Ramires or Sturridge as second choice on RW, but we shouldn't. E. Hazard - Mata - MosesThis should be our first option. If Moses is injured throw in another winger (Marin or Hazard or Malouda), if those are injured only then we can play Ramires or Sturridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 With Moses on his way surely Malouda must go?Who'll take him?I think he'll wind down his contract and leave on a free. No one want's to pay 90k wages for a player that's so far over his peak and have to pay a transfer fee on top of that. And experience is vital, Moses has never played in a title 6 pointer or a CL match before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 E. Hazard - Mata - MosesWhat?!Mata-Oscar-E. Hazard.We didn't pay 25 million to have him sit on the bench! That line-up seems set in concrete, so on the bench, we'll be left with:Marin (first choice substitute)Sturridge (2nd choice)Moses (3rd choice)Malouda (2nd choice in a big game, ahead of Sturridge; otherwise equal 3rd choice with Moses)T. Hazard (will probably start Carling/FA Cup games)Kakuta (lol)I get the feeling that Sturridge will be preferred to Moses because he's already made his mark here. And he has CL+big match experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 What?!Mata-Oscar-E. Hazard.We didn't pay 25 million to have him sit on the bench! That line-up seems set in concrete, so on the bench, we'll be left with:Marin (first choice substitute)Sturridge (2nd choice)Moses (3rd choice)Malouda (2nd choice in a big game, ahead of Sturridge; otherwise equal 3rd choice with Moses)T. Hazard (will probably start Carling/FA Cup games)Kakuta (lol)I get the feeling that Sturridge will be preferred to Moses because he's already made his mark here. And he has CL+big match experience.No. How can you play Mata on wing () and Hazard on right wing (he never played there for us). StrikerHazard - Mata - MosesOscar - MidfielderThat's what it will look like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 No. How can you play Mata on wing () and Hazard on right wing (he never played there for us). StrikerHazard - Mata - MosesOscar - MidfielderThat's what it will look like.Oscar in the double pivot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Oscar in the double pivot? Oscar will play in the double pivot for Brazil at World Cup. If you don't read this article below please don't even talk to me.http://brazil.worldcupblog.org/world-cup-2010/the-playmakers-oscar.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcman26 1 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 We don't need Moses....i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 No. How can you play Mata on wing ( ) and Hazard on right wing (he never played there for us).StrikerHazard - Mata - MosesOscar - MidfielderThat's what it will look like.Even if Oscar plays as a midfielder, Marin is better than Moses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Also, keep thread on topic (it's about Moses). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Oscar will play in the double pivot for Brazil at World Cup. If you don't read this article below please don't even talk to me.http://brazil.worldcupblog.org/world-cup-2010/the-playmakers-oscar.htmlYou do realise that is a BLOG article right? Not an official report. Learn the difference or please don't even talk to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 You do realise that is a BLOG article right? Not an official report. Learn the difference or please don't even talk to me.Did you ever see Oscar playing? Don't you think he's more suited for a central role than playing out wide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Did you ever see Oscar playing? Don't you think he's more suited for a central role than playing out wide?Yeah he is, but the pivot is wayyyy too deep.Hazard - Oscar - MataHazard has played LW for a long time and Mata has played RW numerous times as well.Marin and Moses will be backup wingers.Malouda as a defensive winger.Thorgan won't be close to the first team for another 2-3 years, possibly never, not sure why people bring him up.Kakuta has no future at Chelsea either, and even if he does, he's more suited in the hole and not as a winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Someone already said it but the Daily Mirror has reported that both clubs have agreed a fee of 9 million for moses, and he is awaiting his medical. I read it while having my breakfast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 London calling for Victor: Moses set for Chelsea switch as Wigan finally compromise on £9million feehttp://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/victor-moses-set-for-chelsea-switch-1247705 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 £9 million is a BIT much for him but it's inexpensive compared to other transfers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Yeah he is, but the pivot is wayyyy too deep.Hazard - Oscar - MataHazard has played LW for a long time and Mata has played RW numerous times as well.Marin and Moses will be backup wingers.Malouda as a defensive winger.Thorgan won't be close to the first team for another 2-3 years, possibly never, not sure why people bring him up.Kakuta has no future at Chelsea either, and even if he does, he's more suited in the hole and not as a winger.I agree with that, but for the early stages of the season i think Moses will start on the right while Oscar is adjusting to leagueEarly stages i reckon it'll beHazard Mata MosesAnd then as soon as he gets up to speed then Oscar replaces Moses and Moses and Marin become are alternatives for the attacking mid positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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