royg 96 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 What we need, is to sort out the way we play. We need that more than anything else. If we can get the tactics, the movement and the mechanics of the side right THEN we can judge whether we need a goal scorer or not. IMO, even the most potent goalscoring striker wouldn't maximise his goal return with the way we currently play.I totally agree, less supply means less goals for the "strikers". I think we need to buy Messi if we continued playing like the way we played against Brighton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 That doesn't make sense to me. Of course we need to get our tactics right, especially with all the new recruits. But that takes time to happen. The transfer window shuts on August 31st so if we aren't playing well it might be too late. The fact is that we have lost our best striker in Drogba, and another frustrating, but handy, striker in Kalou. All the top clubs have at least 3 strikers capable of playing every week against the other top sides. Exactly my point. How is getting a goal scorer going to eradicate that fact that we aren't playing well? If we're really desperate for a striker we can get one in January, simple. No doubt people wouldn't be saying that we need another striker if we had the option of Falcao, Sturridge and Lukaku. That's a reasonable proposition, but to have 4 strikers for 1 position seems absurd to me. Man Utd and Man City have the luxury of have 3/4 good strikers due to the fact that they play with 2 strikers more often than not. We don't, and we haven't for years. With a shaky Torres, unproven centre forward in Sturridge and a young but very raw Lukaku (who may be going out on loan), we don't look the most well equipped in the striker department. Having one added striker would provide a more complete squad and then hopefully, after a few months of playing together, our team will start to gel and we will be seeing some good attacking football.Torres hasn't been shaky for a while now. Since RDM has taken over, Fernando's been top scorer under Di Matteo plus he's won the golden boot at the Euros. He truly isn't as shaky as people are making him out to be. Sturridge isn't unproven to me either. The season before last he went to Bolton and became their top scorer for the period of time he was there. He came back to CFC and out scored both Drogba and Torres in the league whilst playing out of his natural position. To me that indicates he's more than ready to step in if Torres isn't producing. The only unproven one out of the three is Lukaku but I have a slight feeling the club might just keep him as the third choice striker. Again, I truly believe that the pressing problem is more with how we play rather than needing another goal scorer. Torres, Sturridge and Lukaku are good enough for me providing they all have a decent season. I don't see the use of purchasing a fourth striker, as even if we do send out Lukaku on loan, when he comes back we'd still have 4 strikers for one position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I don't mind waiting either, we've won it all now, this last decade has been unbelievable. Lets rebuild and start again. But this time, let's rebuild to new levels than what we have achieved since 2003. I understand lots here will be impatient but as the saying goes.... good things come to those who wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I don't mind waiting either, we've won it all now, this last decade has been unbelievable. Lets rebuild and start again. But this time, let's rebuild to new levels than what we have achieved since 2003. I understand lots here will be impatient but as the saying goes.... good things come to those who wait.what you have posted needs constantly bumping ,,,We have achieved ALL the short term targets . Now to build for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 I don't mind waiting either, we've won it all now, this last decade has been unbelievable. Lets rebuild and start again. But this time, let's rebuild to new levels than what we have achieved since 2003. I understand lots here will be impatient but as the saying goes.... good things come to those who wait.Yep agree with this. I always maintained that winning the Champions League would allow me to effectively 'die a happy man tomorrow' as far as Chelsea was concerned. I'm much more relaxed now about giving Chelsea time and patience on my behalf to rebuild. As long as we continue to stay competitive, and re-establish ourselves in the top four over that time.Moses would be a good buy. If Mata, Hazard and Oscar represent our strongest attack, Marin and Moses would provide two excellent and different options. Both positive, happy to stay wide and stretch teams and will give the side a different 'spin' if the others aren't working. However Moses definately can't play striker unless we're planning to play that false number 9 shite, so I feel we would still need a new striker, with or without Lukaku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 So Whelan confirms Moses wants to join us and he will not stand in his way, good for him. This signifies to me RDM will not buy a striker until January if not the whole season and therefore we will see Sturridge more centrally this season and Moses perhaps replacing him on the wings. Hope he will turn out to be a success here if the move finalises. As he develops he can have the full package if he lives up to it, pace, trickery, strength and hopefully more goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Would be a decent signing. Gives us options. Looking unlikely that we will buy a striker though. Hope we can get Moses in before the Community Shield. Would be a better RW than Ramires (probably). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Why? We're probably still working hard to bring in a top class striker as we won't go into the season with Torres, Sturridge and Moses as CF's when two of them have never even played as a lone striker before. Moses will be a very good and clever signing though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,534 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 if we loan out Lukaku i still think we`ll sign a striker. i don`t think we`ll sign Hulk now tho so i hope folks give Moses a chance and don`t end up comparing everything he does to what Hulk might have done. we went for the younger, far cheaper option possibly with us getting another player in mind..e.g Moses + striker instead of just throwing all in to get Hulk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 The guardian disagrees with you about the whole Hulk thing. If hulk did become available at 30m, then there's still a good chance we could sign him as a CF as that is what his position was until avb took charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Still think he'd be a great signing. He's raw, but he's direct, quick and powerful. As has been said, he's a better option to have than Ramires going forward, although I cant remember him playing on the right much, maybe it's just me. Hopefully this could turn out to be a signing in the mould of Valencia. Let's get this done, and along with a striker and a right-back, we're set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,534 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 that`s what the guardian thinks. my post was what i think. my opinions don`t come with selling papers and making money in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severinb 309 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 http://m.skysports.com/article/football//7970008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Chelsea set to sign Victor Moseshttp://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/chelsea-set-to-sign-victor-moses-8014750.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 that`s what the guardian thinks. my post was what i think. my opinions don`t come with selling papers and making money in mind.But there's still a good chance that we could sign Hulk. But we'll see anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonDavis23 371 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 moses deal looks to be donehttp://www.independe...es-8014750.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonDavis23 371 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 so many new players this year it seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonDavis23 371 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 the rebuilding has certainly begun after winning ucl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 moses deal looks to be donehttp://www.independe...es-8014750.html Chelsea set to sign Victor Moseshttp://www.independe...es-8014750.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisho 33 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 if we buy hulk then we dont need moses, if we buy moses then we dont need hulk, we need an out and out striker. So to me this means we not getting hulk. I think we get a moses, cesar and a striker. which makes sense because moses, cesar and a good back up striker will cost just a little more than hulk, good business in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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