Leif 6,006 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Yes, you could do that.Or, you can buy someone who's already world class, has the potential to become even better, and would strike fear in opponents.Hulk can be that player.Hulk isn't world class lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 But that wouldn't be the front-line.It would be - Sturridge (OUR TOP SCORING FORWARD THIS SEASON FFS)Hazard, Mata, Moses/De Bruyne/Ramires/WhoeverPeople need to stop being such pussies for fuck sake.Manchester United gave a proper chance to young Wayne Rooney, and look at him now.I bet if we bought Rooney instead of Man Utd, people would just say "Too young, not enough experience. Bad transfer. Sell him. Let's get someone else older, more expensive and more proven."How can people be talking about giving KAKUTA a chance, and then people saying Sturridge isn't good enough? How can people be talking about giving McEachran a chance, and then people saying Sturridge isn't good enough?This is why we're a laughing stock to most other clubs.All the people on here want to do is buy, buy, buy any overrated expensive player we're linked to.True but I still would rather have others instead of Moses. However, If he does come I'd be behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 When Wayne Rooney signed for United, United still had RVN and Louis Saha AND Guissepi Rossi competing for the CF role. Going in with Sturridge, Lukaku and Moses as your recognised strikers is mid table ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 *facepalm*We are talking about wingers because we dont have any back up RW do we? :banghead:LOOL!!! you really dont get it do you? yeah i would love Sturridge to lead the line for us next season if all teams played against us the same way they did with Bolton! When Sturridge played for them teams attacked Bolton leaving Sturridge space to run into! but for Chelsea teams will be parking the bus against us! and when they see players like Mata and Hazard they will try to out muscle us and Sturridge is not one to put up a fight!Its one thing leading the line and scoring for Bolton and whole different thing to do it for Chelsea.Marin is our back-up right winger. Ramires can, as seen, play on the right wing. Hazard can play on the right wing. Sturridge can play on the right wing. Mata can play on the right wing. De Bruyne can play on the right wing.Really, what on earth are you on about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 And for your info, no one is writing off Sturridge. I don't see a problem with Torres and Sturridge leading the line as I believe Dan has the quality to displace Fernando if Torres doesn't perform. Just going with Sturridge, Moses and Lukaku into the season is suicidal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Marin is our back-up right winger. Ramires can, as seen, play on the right wing. Hazard can play on the right wing. Sturridge can play on the right wing. Mata can play on the right wing. De Bruyne can play on the right wing.Really, what on earth are you on about?oh wow!!!yes we could also play Essien or Kakuta their as well! :banghead: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 And for your info, no one is writing off Sturridge. I don't see a problem with Torres and Sturridge leading the line as I believe Dan has the quality to displace Fernando if Torres doesn't perform.Just going with Sturridge, Moses and Lukaku into the season is suicidal.No one said we'd go into the season with just them though.If Torres was sold, we would definitely be buying another striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 oh wow!!!yes we could also play Essien or Kakuta their as well! :banghead:Are you 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Are you 5?not till next week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 It's a good thing I speak French otherwise I would have a lot of trouble reading that...thank god for online translators. You wrote that? Amazing, that is longer than some of novels I've read! I imagine the writing was much more attractive before it was butchered by Google.Just out of personal curiosity, it there a French team that you follow or followed in the past? I remember Peace saying he didn't care much for the Ligue 1 but he was fond of Marseille because he lived close to the city of Marseille. I'm just always curious about what teams people support in their home country.Thanks On a personnal plan, my family isn't really fond of football and I moved at several places in France. I didnt grow up in a place where a club was firmly etablished.I'm from Tours, I follow Tours that I can see playing in their stadium. Otherwise I like Lille and Lorient, mainly for their playing culture, the way they are managed for yearsAnd where does that rank him on the completed dribbles list?Even if that is high, that's no definitive indicator of him being a good player. So he might be comfortable with the ball at his feet, that's great, but what about the end product? You can beat all 11 men but if you blast it into row Z there's no real point.Go to the magnificient WhoScored.com http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/2/Seasons/2935/Stages/5476/PlayerStatistics/England-Premier-League-2011-2012then chose "Player Statistic" then "Offensive". Sort by "Drb" and just put your mouse on the dibble rate per game and you'll see the absolute figureMoses has 95 dribbles in 36+2 games, Hoilett 87 in 34 games. Moses is 25th and Hoilett 21th in Europe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 No one said we'd go into the season with just them though.If Torres was sold, we would definitely be buying another striker.I'm sure you said that in your ideal world you'd have Sturridge, Lukaku and Moses as our lead strikers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I'm sure you said that in your ideal world you'd have Sturridge, Lukaku and Moses as our lead strikers?No. I said in my ideal world, we would sell Torres for at least £20mil, most likely to Juventus, and then have Sturridge as our lead striker.I then said that Lukaku and Moses could be back-up to Sturridge, but everyone knows our board. Another striker would then be bought, incase Sturridge fails.He would probably be a big name who would rotate with Sturridge. Someone like Falcao I assume would be bought.No one is under the illusion that if Sturridge couldn't produce the goods that Lukaku and Moses are good enough to be our starting strikers vs. the likes of Manchester United.I'll also add - Moses has shown potential to be a starting winger for a top club within the next 2 seasons.Sure, a lot of small minded people (not you) won't see that, but that's expected.I assume he'll be snapped up by a Bundesliga club if I'm honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Moses is a decent player, but I'd be dissapointed if he was bought as our first choice right sided attacker. Granted, Moses does not warrant the same talent as Wayne Rooney did when he was bought for United, so he wouldn't automatically force his way into the team like Wayne did. I'd either want a young, Hazard-esque signing for our right side, or rather go for experience at a good age i.e. Hulk. The right side of our attack has been neglected for too long, we've been trying to fit in square pegs into round holes for too long. We need a proper signing for the right side of our attack for once. IIRC, Moses prefers the left side more as he likes to cut in on his stronger foot?Again, wouldn't mind Moses but will he be given the time and patience here to succeed? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Hope you guys that are saying he'd be a squad player are right. Otherwise, this is what midtable clubs like Liverpool do. Poach cheap players from the likes of Wigan and bottom table clubs.We're European Champions and should be bringing in proven, instant impact, world class players.Moses would be a great squad player, though.What you mean like how Man Utd bought Valencia? He was a terrible buy wasn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 What you mean like how Man Utd bought Valencia? He was a terrible buy wasn't he?Valencia would have been a perfect signing for us. Everyone could see the guy was quality, it's not a surprise he went for £10m+ (£15m I think?), which is quite high by Wigan standards. He certainly wasn't cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Moses is a very talented player but if you asked me do we need him I would say no. He is not proven at a big club, he is talented but we have many others who are talented. If we have the likes of Kakuta, who I hope has a Chelsea future, Sturridge, Marin, De Bruyne potential as well, Lalkovic looks a decent prospect but maybe not good enough for the first team and the likes of Ramires and Hazard and Malouda, where is Moses going to find valuable playing time?Kakuta had a decent loan at Dijon and I believe he can make the grade. If we are going to buy Moses we can't waste his potential by not playing him and this would be inevitable with the amount of attackers at the club. If it was RDM that made the reported bid for Moses it would be interesting as maybe he has plans to sell a couple of players and involve Moses in but surely this means we are not interested in Hulk anymore I guess.I really like Moses, but are there people with me in thinking it would be a waste of time for him to come here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Not a RW. Already have Marin backing up Hazard/Mata at left wing and I would rather play Piazon at LW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Valencia would have been a perfect signing for us. Everyone could see the guy was quality, it's not a surprise he went for £10m+ (£15m I think?), which is quite high by Wigan standards. He certainly wasn't cheap.Yeah, but he had two or three years left to run on his contract, hence the larger price. Moses only has a year left AFAIK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Sign him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Buying Moses to use him as backup would be a very stuipid move. First of all its a gamble and secondly, having Torres and using Sturridge as CF aswell is the best choice atm. Anything else is either impossible or madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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