Eden Hazard

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Chelsea star: I'd rather win the FA Cup than the Premier League

CHELSEA star Eden Hazard says he would rather win the FA Cup than the Premier League

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/576556/Eden-Hazard-Chelsea-FA-Cup-Premier-League

[communicate 2,703]

On 1/6/2017 at 5:08 PM, Jason said:

That's just an excuse really. Like I said, we aren't the greatest creative or technical side out there but we aren't the worst either. Hazard already showed he can play well without Fabregas in the XI. So there's no reason why he can't do it and there's no reason for him to play well in one game and then go completely quiet in the next.

I did not say that Hazard need fabregas to play well. I said that he need to be the sole creator in most game and that is asking too much from a player and he is not a robot there is bound to be up and down. 

 

[Tomo 21,736]

On 1/5/2017 at 11:26 AM, Jason said:

That is a valid point, but only till a certain extent IMO. It can't be used to justify of how he goes from being very good in one game to being very ineffective or quiet the next (e.g the Bournemouth and Stoke games last week). We aren't great on the technical side of things but we aren't the worst either. People criticized Gary Neville when he said but if Hazard truly wants to be one of the greats in football, then he needs to do it week in week out.

Funny thing is, Suarez was criticised for similar (pre 13/14). Hazard's 'bad' games he still offers a lot and that's what is the signs of a great player. Last season in January he was in the top seven for chances created, yeah that wasn't a typo, last season when he and the team were in the worst form of their lives also many times i have thought Hazard has had a bad game on the face of it then looked at the stats and it turned out he was actually the best player on the pitch in terms of key passes, key dribbles and chances created. Like i remember the days SWP and Lennon looked like they were having a good game because they skinned the full back a couple of times but in reality were having a shocker, it's the opposite with Hazard, he often looks like he is not playing well when actually, he is!!!!!

On 1/5/2017 at 0:42 PM, MefiX19 said:

I love how people care more about Hazard's career than about future of our club.

Im sorry and i have never said this before, but what a weird and strange post, i swear we are the only set of fans in the world so relaxed about the prospect of losing our best players.

[Jase 43,479]

17 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Funny thing is, Suarez was criticised for similar (pre 13/14). Hazard's 'bad' games he still offers a lot and that's what is the signs of a great player. Last season in January he was in the top seven for chances created, yeah that wasn't a typo, last season when he and the team were in the worst form of their lives also many times i have thought Hazard has had a bad game on the face of it then looked at the stats and it turned out he was actually the best player on the pitch in terms of key passes, key dribbles and chances created. Like i remember the days SWP and Lennon looked like they were having a good game because they skinned the full back a couple of times but in reality were having a shocker, it's the opposite with Hazard, he often looks like he is not playing well when actually, he is!!!!!

But Tomo, you know as well as anyone that stats don't tell the whole story. The stats may be high/good but if they don't make any difference on the pitch, then what's the point? It's just like a midfielder who has 90%+ pass completion, which is impressive on the surface, but when you look the deeper, you realize the reason for that is because he's mainly passed sideways and/or backwards. And if we really want to talk about last season, then I'm sure even you would admit that he was nowhere near his best or performed at the minimum level required, despite whatever stats you have found.

7 hours ago, communicate said:

I did not say that Hazard need fabregas to play well. I said that he need to be the sole creator in most game and that is asking too much from a player and he is not a robot there is bound to be up and down. 

But the up and down seems to be happening a tad too often!

[Tomo 21,736]

45 minutes ago, Jason said:

But Tomo, you know as well as anyone that stats don't tell the whole story. The stats may be high/good but if they don't make any difference on the pitch, then what's the point? It's just like a midfielder who has 90%+ pass completion, which is impressive on the surface, but when you look the deeper, you realize the reason for that is because he's mainly passed sideways and/or backwards. And if we really want to talk about last season, then I'm sure even you would admit that he was nowhere near his best or performed at the minimum level required, despite whatever stats you have found.

But the up and down seems to be happening a tad too often!

Ofcourse stats arent everything but either way, how many players would be that high up in any positive stat despite playing through injury/mental exhaustion and the whole team bar one being bad? I don't think anyone else in the prem would that is for certain. Of course he does have genuine average games and you could argue he does more than his talent should but he also has many games that dont look great in live time, but actually are, then of course he has his games were he is touched by God which are very much obvious. 

As for the stat, it was posted on here about January time last year, I quoted it so will be on my history somewhere.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Neymar didnt score in 11 games for Barca. They dont want to sell him. Yet here, the jury is already out to get rid of Eden. I just wonder if those are same people who wanted to sell him in summer. 

This is how football works. You dont play every single game on top. No player does it. Eden is top player, he aint world class. He has world class ball control, but otherways he is only very very good. He still has alot to prove in europe and sure he has talent for that. 

That said, he is still by far our best player along Costa and its just ridiculous people already started talking shit. 

Im just waiting for Costa to go 3 games goalless, then sure people will go from Costa is best in world to Costa is bang average. Funny world.

[LAM09 6,831]

Hope he puts a shift in tomorrow. Hasn't played well in his last two games.

[Chelsea? 892]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I feel Chelsea need to make a bigger deal out of Hazard. As in drive the narrative that he's the best player in the best league. Maybe that's on his sponsor but I feel like he's under rated by the general public. 

[Despiadado.Maleante 1,046]

5 hours ago, Chelsea? said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I feel Chelsea need to make a bigger deal out of Hazard. As in drive the narrative that he's the best player in the best league. Maybe that's on his sponsor but I feel like he's under rated by the general public. 

Your definitely right. But I think it's mostly due to lack of a proper agent.

[manpe 10,861]

9 hours ago, Chelsea? said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I feel Chelsea need to make a bigger deal out of Hazard. As in drive the narrative that he's the best player in the best league. Maybe that's on his sponsor but I feel like he's under rated by the general public. 

Do you mean become a vain show-off like Pogba? Nah thanks.

[Polo7 3,496]

10 hours ago, Chelsea? said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I feel Chelsea need to make a bigger deal out of Hazard. As in drive the narrative that he's the best player in the best league. Maybe that's on his sponsor but I feel like he's under rated by the general public. 

He wouldn't need that if he was consistent. That's the only thing letting him down.

[Jase 43,479]

10 hours ago, Chelsea? said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I feel Chelsea need to make a bigger deal out of Hazard. As in drive the narrative that he's the best player in the best league. Maybe that's on his sponsor but I feel like he's under rated by the general public. 

Why do we need that? Would rather him do his talking with the performances on the pitch rather than, as manpe alluded to, do the silly things that Pogba is doing off the pitch right now.

[manpe 10,861]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

Why do we need that? Would rather him do his talking with the performances on the pitch rather than, as manpe alluded to, do the silly things that Pogba is doing off the pitch right now.

I agree, I can see only one plus that would come with it - higher price tag because of a more marketable brand.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

On 4-1-2017 at 11:29 PM, Jason said:

Forget goals. Is Hazard ever going to put in great, consistent performances?

 

On 7-1-2017 at 10:03 AM, Jason said:

In my defence, I don't think it's overreaction. Just a case of dissatisfied with our better/best player not stepping up in the big games (that's not to say he hasn't done that previously) and Spurs away was a big one. It's also annoying to see Hazard not performing consistently, when we know he can and he's reached the age where he should be doing so. As mentioned, he can be absolutely brilliant in one game and then go completely quiet the next and to say he's been playing very well since September might be stretching it. We may have won 13 of our last 14 league games but there were games where he was brilliant and quiet during that run.

 

On 18-1-2017 at 8:37 AM, Polo7 said:

He wouldn't need that if he was consistent. That's the only thing letting him down.

I really disagree with the notion that Hazard isn't a consistent player. It's perfectly normal for a player to have "quiet" games in a season. They are human you know. 

There's not a single player in the world that measures up to the ridiculous definition of consistency some on here have.

Even Messi and Ronaldo have quiet games the difference is that they're tremendous goalscorers playing for teams that are so dominant they don't even need them to perform well to dominate the opposition.

[Leif 6,006]

In terms of goals, not many non-strikers are as consistent as him really. Not this season specifically but in the past 3 or so, the only other great 'wingers' (I'll also include players in the hole behind the striker in this) who've consistently contributed to goals to the same degree, have been Ribery, De Bruyne & Sanchez. No others in all the top 5 leagues, until we bring in Messi & whichever of Suarez/Neymar is playing on the side more. This past season, we can't say this for Ribery IMO, meaning Hazard slips in and forms part of the 5-best forwards-not-strikers around.

Compare Hazard now to C. Ronaldo now and discover that we have the better player. Let's count our blessings, I think that's a good benchmark.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

He i almost never poor. But when he is on brilliant form, it sets the bar. Then he has an ok game, but since he is not brilliant, people complain.

If Willian was performing to what Eden does on average, he would be considered outstanding here.

Yet the expectations for Eden are unbelievably high and thats why after every ok game, we hear he had shit game. 

Looking at the course of this and past seasons, only Diego and Eden perform in attack on regular basis.

Those who think either of two should be cashed in, should think again. We will have damn hard time to find replacements even if we can spend 200m on just two new players. 

Its like we had to replace Lamps and Drogba back then. No chance we would get better players than those two.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

9 minutes ago, Leif said:

In terms of goals, not many non-strikers are as consistent as him really. Not this season specifically but in the past 3 or so, the only other great 'wingers' (I'll also include players in the hole behind the striker in this) who've consistently contributed to goals to the same degree, have been Ribery, De Bruyne & Sanchez. No others in all the top 5 leagues, until we bring in Messi & whichever of Suarez/Neymar is playing on the side more. This past season, we can't say this for Ribery IMO, meaning Hazard slips in and forms part of the 5-best forwards-not-strikers around.

Compare Hazard now to C. Ronaldo now and discover that we have the better player. Let's count our blessings, I think that's a good benchmark.

I think you meant Robben, not Ribery. And I would throw Muller in the mix