Rmpr 8,977 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 And act like a knob in the processMate, the dude has 21yo and he was being asked to join some of the top clubs in England.I would have done the same probably, he was just having fun and letting his fans know from him instead of the media, give the kid a break! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 And act like a knob in the processYeah and he almost killed a ball boy, gtfo!! Stingray and Eden2020 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Mate, the dude has 21yo and he was being asked to join some of the top clubs in England.I would have done the same probably, he was just having fun and letting his fans know from him instead of the media, give the kid a break!Bet if he didn't choose Chelsea, you'd be agreeing with me. His actions were unprofessional and he should have never done that, especially for a player who should be making a good first impression in joining a different league. Age doesn't matter, he's been in the game for a while and should have known better. Yeah and he almost killed a ball boy, gtfo!!I don't have time to reply to bias-ism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Bet if he didn't choose Chelsea, you'd be agreeing with me. His actions were unprofessional and he should have never done that, especially for a player who should be making a good first impression in joining a different league. Age doesn't matter, he's been in the game for a while and should have known better.No I wouldnt, I "criticized" him on the ballboy issue and he was on our side. I said he shouldnt have done that but it didnt make him a villan...The same here, he shouldnt have done it but it is perfectly understandable! How many here would have done the same? I would!Age does matter mate, people learn with their mistake and that reflects in their actions. Why do young people brag a lot more than old ones? Beacause they end up learning the consequences... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 No I wouldnt, I "criticized" him on the ballboy issue and he was on our side. I said he shouldnt have done that but it didnt make him a villan...The same here, he shouldnt have done it but it is perfectly understandable! How many here would have done the same? I would!Age does matter mate, people learn with their mistake and that reflects in their actions. Why do young people brag a lot more than old ones? Beacause they end up learning the consequences...That lad is going on 22, he's not 16 FFS. He's been playing professional football for going on half a decade now and his actions entering the transfer market made him look as if he is a superstar when he has proven nothing of sort in producing quality on the grandest of stages. I guarantee you, if he didn't choose Chelsea, all of the ones who continuously have his back, would hate him more than any player in the league. Self serving Bias at its full potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 That lad is going on 22, he's not 16 FFS. He's been playing professional football for going on half a decade now and his actions entering the transfer market made him look as if he is a superstar when he has proven nothing of sort in producing quality on the grandest of stages. I guarantee you, if he didn't choose Chelsea, all of the ones who continuously have his back, would hate him more than any player in the league. Self serving Bias at its full potential. Oh please, the guy was playing on twitter, shut up! different level and Stingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Should have never played 'which club should i join' on twitter like he was choosing an ice cream flavor, causing much anticipation and contradicting himself every week, I'm definitely joining city, it'll be one of the Manchester clubs..etc. He should have said he is interested in joining an English club and plans to improve his ability instead of acting like a Knob. OCD much, mate? Gnah, Gnah :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Oh please, the guy was playing on twitter, shut up!I rest my case Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 OCD much, mate? Gnah, Gnah :-)Am i being too neutral? or should i tone up my bias view on our players to meet your qualifications? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Am i being too neutral? or should i tone up my bias view on our players to meet your qualifications? No you just keep repeating the same over and over and over and over and over. We get it. Point taken. Thats all. Ps: not agreeing with your views (some evaluate a player merely on skill and performances, not on his twitter activities - I myself could not care less - or the way his hair looks, or .... ) is not necessarily a bias. Constantly invoking a bias in a discussion is called an immunisation strategy in retorics. Look it up :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I rest my case You just lost it there mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 No you just keep repeating the same over and over and over and over and over.We get it. Point taken. Thats all.Ps: not agreeing with your views (some evaluate a player merely on skill and performances, not on his twitter activities - I myself could not care less - or the way his hair looks, or .... ) is not necessarily a bias. Constantly invoking a bias in a discussion is called an immunisation strategy in retorics. Look it up :-)Think i only referenced Hazard and his actions during the transfer period only in two separate threads, so already off the bat your allegations on me repeating the same thing, "over and over and over and over and over and over' again, holds invalid. But on the other hand, i am actually very satisfied my point was finally able to be made by my fellow comrades like yourself. Day made. Choosing a belief that (place Chelsea player here) should be praised or sympathized and all other actions pre arrival should be ignored because he is part of our club, but if those same allegations were reversed and joined another side, those current beliefs, would be absent. Self serving Bias. Look it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 You just lost it there mate! Lost what? You referencing his actions via twitter and you losing the plot so humorously? No wonder managers and agents continue to discourage player's time on twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 ....Pending response from Stingray.....Hurry up mate, I have class in a half an hour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Lost what? You referencing his actions via twitter and you losing the plot so humorously? No wonder managers and agents continue to dismiss their player's control to twitter. Mate, I was playing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Weckerz 3,781 Posted February 13, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted February 13, 2013 Why are you even having this discussion? Has he shown any signs of being a 'knob' since he arrived here?No.Move along Hamilton, Hutcho, Belgiannutt and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Think i only referenced Hazard and his actions during the transfer period only in two separate threads, so already off the bat your allegations on me repeating the same thing, "over and over and over and over and over and over' again, holds invalid. But on the other hand, i am actually very satisfied my point was finally able to be made by my fellow comrades like yourself. Day made. Choosing a belief that (place Chelsea player here) should be praised or sympathized and all other actions pre arrival should be ignored because he is part of our club, but if those same allegations were reversed and joined another side, those current beliefs, would be absent. Self serving Bias. Look it up Thats bullshit. If anything ive seen on this forums its a neutral point of view of all players, except for maybe Torres and Rooney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Don't lecture me about biases. I teach that to s*** like you. Seperate your observations (especially on twitter) from your interpretations. Psych 101. And where is the starlet diva in these? http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/05/29/3132777/the-trials-tribulations-of-eden-hazard-the-definitivehttp://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2012/6/6/3065969/eden-hazard-transfer-saga-timelinehttp://blogs.bettor.com/Eden-Hazard-defends-his-Twitter-account-a161028 Belgiannutt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Don't lecture me about biases. I teach that to s*** like you.Seperate your observations (especially on twitter) from your interpretations. Psych 101.And where is the starlet diva in these?http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/05/29/3132777/the-trials-tribulations-of-eden-hazard-the-definitivehttp://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2012/6/6/3065969/eden-hazard-transfer-saga-timelinehttp://blogs.bettor.com/Eden-Hazard-defends-his-Twitter-account-a161028Quality list of sources you have there, and if anything, they support my argument how he could have handled his transfer business much better than the way he has previously did. You seem to have forgot the articles where he mentioned it is down between the Manchester Clubs causing another sturr for the media and public to drool over and to increase their anticipation. Now is this a World Class phenomena, or a young player with a promising potential? http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/150870.htmlBTW, way to lose the plot like a class A Pro :lol2:Move along mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Quality list of sources you have there, and if anything, they support my argument how he could have handled his transfer business much better than the way he has previously did. You seem to have forgot the videos where he mentioned it is down between the Manchester Clubs. BTW, way to lose the plot like a class A Pro :lol2:Move along mate. What are you, 12?Ofcourse he could have handled it better, no he shouldn't have made a fuss on twitter. Young people do things like that, they don't think about the consequences.The media circling him like vultures during that period, emphasizing everything he says, and several sponsors putting him in stupid positions like this vid for instance, didn't help creating an image of a modest, yet ambitious guy. Stop acting as if you know what you're talking about or what has been said/done during that transfer period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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