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[shellpick 13]

Why isn't hulk caring about this transfer? personnaly I suppose this transfer will be surely beneficial to his career. Maybe it is the loyalty to the club, though I admire that I take it as a shame. Still hoping he can come.

[The Skipper 20,593]

I meant guys that would rather pass than go through ppl. Mata, Oscar, Hazard are all small guys known for passing.

I think and hope it's simply being set up to play good football, football that wins matches. Weather RDM is the man to pull it off only time will tell!

I'd say we're creating a side that is far more direct than what many imagine, as Superblue_1986 pointed out to.

The blue print has been set out by RDM and the board, but we won't fully know how the side is exactly being shaped into until we see a couple if more games. The main advantage of the 4-2-3-1 is that it's very flexible and that philosophical changes can easily be made without sacrificing too many players in the team. We can easily turn from a possesional structure into a counter attacking structure as we have quite a few pacy players.

If we had let's say a team of:

Torres

Mata - Oscar - Hazard

Ramires - Mikel

We'd easily keep possession as we'd have 4 players who are very comfortable with the ball at their feet (Mata, Mikel, Oscar and Hazard) but if a counter attacking situation arrived, we'd have Torres and Ramires leading the charge but don't forget Hazard has exquisite pace too, and Oscar and Mata aren't too bad themselves.

The reason why I put Ramires in the double pivot is that I believe we need a physically imposing midfield. Ramires has a slight structure but he has the heart of a lion, the stamina of a Kenyan long distance runner, and he's a fighter. He could be our ball winning midfielder, who'd then lay it off to Mikel (or Oscar who likes to drop in deep) and then make an off the ball run from deep to provide another attacking option at pace. I think we'd be okay if we didn't get Hulk.

It could work, we might not even need Hulk, but it would take time for all that to come into fruition. That's why I still want Hulk, as I think he'd give us an immediate impact and also give us more tactical flexibility and squad competitiveness. When we need to bully teams, a XI containing Ramires, Hulk, Hazard and Torres who are all good at penetrating through players will help us more than if we produced the above XI.

We could even mix it up and drop Mikel if we really needed to chase the result with a XI of:

Torres

Mata - Hazard - Hulk

Oscar - Ramires

Ideally we'd have no stern defensive cover from midfield but if we're chasing the game we don't really need to.

The Hulk signing would still add tons to our team, but if Porto are pricing us out of it we should just pack our bags and leave. Hopefully we still get him, but the chances are getting slimmer by the day IMO.

[Sheva. 5,373]

yet another average performance from Hulk yesterday im still wondering what people see in him! a Striker and RB should be our last 2 signings this window! NO Hulk!!!

I have to agree here, after watching him in all the recent Brazil games i don't know how Porto can demand so much for him (maybe he does better in the Portuguese League? lol)

The problem you guys are looking at is you're looking for a £50 million performance. You won't get that from Hulk, because he isn't worth that. You will only get that from the Iniestas and Messis and Ronaldos of this world.

Exactly, so we should not pay anything close to that for him. We've already made that mistake once.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

I'm really changing my mind about Hulk as days go by. I would be happy if we sign him but I now feel we need a good quality CF to give us more fire power.

[Hamilton 2,120]

Indeed, first a striker..

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

If we had let's say a team of:

Torres

Mata - Oscar - Hazard

Ramires - Mikel

We'd easily keep possession as we'd have 4 players who are very comfortable with the ball at their feet (Mata, Mikel, Oscar and Hazard) but if a counter attacking situation arrived, we'd have Torres and Ramires leading the charge but don't forget Hazard has exquisite pace too, and Oscar and Mata aren't too bad themselves.

The reason why I put Ramires in the double pivot is that I believe we need a physically imposing midfield. Ramires has a slight structure but he has the heart of a lion, the stamina of a Kenyan long distance runner, and he's a fighter. He could be our ball winning midfielder, who'd then lay it off to Mikel (or Oscar who likes to drop in deep) and then make an off the ball run from deep to provide another attacking option at pace.

That would be my lineup as well, for the reasons you stated. We need to have strong double pivots. Ramires can be the harasser of our midfield. I must say, on Paper it looks exquisite, especially if Torres finds his old self again.

[November33rd 84]

we have a Rb who is cover for the CB position too. who happens to be just one player so if he went down we`d be in trouble at both the RB and CB position. JT and Luiz have shown that they can rarely go on a stretch without missing time through injuries.

we have options for RW/RM Oscar is probably gonna start there atleast until Lampard retires or goes "missionary" to the states. then there`s other options like Ramires,De Bruyne,Hazard if needs be.and Marin ..they both may prefer the left flank but they have played out wide and are right footed so shouldn`t be a problem.

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Terrible logic. Did you forget we also have Cahill who can cover for CB?

Oscar is not a RW has never played at RW and is terribly suited for RW so that's a terrible point/assumption. Ramires is not a RW, and has proven over and over again that he is ineffective when playing at RW.

De Bruyne is going on loan.

Hazard splits time at LW and in the hole and is also not a RW nor will he play there.

Putting Marin at RW will leave us with the same dilemma we had last season with no true RW as he'd be playing out of position there.

The bottomline is we already have a quality, dependable starter at RB and none at RW so RW is by far the more pressing need.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

Terrible logic. Did you forget we also have Cahill who can cover for CB?

Oscar is not a RW has never played at RW and is terribly suited for RW so that's a terrible point/assumption. Ramires is not a RW, and has proven over and over again that he is ineffective when playing at RW.

De Bruyne is going on loan.

Hazard splits time at LW and in the hole and is also not a RW nor will he play there.

Putting Marin at RW will leave us with the same dilemma we had last season with no true RW as he'd be playing out of position there.

The bottomline is we already have a quality, dependable starter at RB and none at RW so RW is by far the more pressing need.

Oscar could be playing on the right, although more as a RAM or RM rather than a winger. In fact we will probably be a bit narrow as Oscar, Hazard, and Mata will be relatively close to each other, behind the striker. Oscar apperently played on the right for Brazil but roams around everywhere.

[Duppy Conqueror 1,494]

Terrible logic. Did you forget we also have Cahill who can cover for CB?

Oscar is not a RW has never played at RW and is terribly suited for RW so that's a terrible point/assumption. Ramires is not a RW, and has proven over and over again that he is ineffective when playing at RW.

De Bruyne is going on loan.

Hazard splits time at LW and in the hole and is also not a RW nor will he play there.

Putting Marin at RW will leave us with the same dilemma we had last season with no true RW as he'd be playing out of position there.

The bottomline is we already have a quality, dependable starter at RB and none at RW so RW is by far the more pressing need.

you start that post with terrible logic. i guess that must have been the headline to your post after what followed.

Branislav is the starter RB who covers CB. CB is a position where atleast 2 players take the field. the starting 2 of Luiz and Terry often get injured and miss games. so we have Cahill of course i haven`t forgotten him. have you forgotten that despite having Cahill, Bran had to go back to playing CB at times last season as he had to in previous years when we had Alex..

1viable option in a defensive position is not enough. again when he also covers the CB.

we have multiple options who can fill in at RW. it`s not as important to have a dependable player at RW than it is RB nor CB. we won the European Cup and F.A.cup. without what you would class as a true RW.

you really haven`t seen Oscar very often i understand that so don`t go around bippin`about what he can and can`t do. you are mistaken.

De Bruyne can either stay or be recalled from loan.

a right footed winger being unable to play the right wing. of course they can. it`s not all about cutbacks and shooting on your inside foot. whilst LW may be their better position of the two that`s not to say they can`t be relied upon to do a job on the RW.

RB is the more pressin` need.

[November33rd 84]

you start that post with terrible logic. i guess that must have been the headline to your post after what followed.

Branislav is the starter RB who covers CB. CB is a position where atleast 2 players take the field. the starting 2 of Luiz and Terry often get injured and miss games. so we have Cahill of course i haven`t forgotten him. have you forgotten that despite having Cahill, Bran had to go back to playing CB at times last season as he had to in previous years when we had Alex..

1viable option in a defensive position is not enough. again when he also covers the CB.

we have multiple options who can fill in at RW. it`s not as important to have a dependable player at RW than it is RB nor CB. we won the European Cup and F.A.cup. without what you would class as a true RW.

you really haven`t seen Oscar very often i understand that so don`t go around bippin`about what he can and can`t do. you are mistaken.

De Bruyne can either stay or be recalled from loan.

a right footed winger being unable to play the right wing. of course they can. it`s not all about cutbacks and shooting on your inside foot. whilst LW may be their better position of the two that`s not to say they can`t be relied upon to do a job on the RW.

RB is the more pressin` need.

Signing a player to fill a need as a backup isn't more important than signing a player to fill a need at starter. End of story.

[zolayes 14,489]

Signing a player to fill a need as a backup isn't more important than signing a player to fill a need at starter. End of story.

very clever to cross out his post like that . IT DOESN'T cancell out the logic that we NEED a RB ...

[Hutcho 8,443]

Signing a player to fill a need as a backup isn't more important than signing a player to fill a need at starter. End of story.

We don't need to fill a starter position atm... Technically speaking the right side of a 3 in a 4-2-3-1, is more of a RAM than a RW, and Hazard and Marin can play RW, it the same as left wing except they are encouraged to cross as oppossed to cut inside, though Hazard is really "both footed", so can still cut insdide on the right. I agree Ramiries best position definately isn't there but, 38 million is a lot of money when we have a starting team already tbh. Therefore, we have lots of Attacking players, so we need a backup rb more importantly, as i don't want to be relying upon Paulo.

[YouNameIt 1,511]

You are all expecting Hulk to be some kind of Iniesta or something because you have hyped the shit outta him here on the forums. He's an excellent player and if he would join Chelsea, with the type of players we've got now, he'd be even better. That said, I wouldnt be devastated if we didnt get him, but then I sure hope we spend those money wisely...

[Duppy Conqueror 1,494]

@ younameit we aren`t all doing anything it`s a forum with varied opinions on everything including Hulk.

[blue_swaggin_96 96]

hulk is physical beast that we must have!

[November33rd 84]

very clever to cross out his post like that . IT DOESN'T cancell out the logic that we NEED a RB ...

Never disagreed that we need a RB. We definitely do. Just not more than we need a true RW.

[MikeyBlue 11]

BBC opening ceremony: 'Mexico' mexico men's football has the marvellous Porto

striker Hulk..I'm told he's incredible' 'yeah he's a very goood player.'.

Tits

[Wise 45]

yet another average performance from Hulk yesterday im still wondering what people see in him! a Striker and RB should be our last 2 signings this window! NO Hulk!!!

Played out of position. He is a right forward, lethal when cutting inside with his powerful shot. I don't know why they don't just play Hulk on the right, Oscar middle and Neymar left.