termninja 5,290 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 oh so moses is wigan's best player so they should charge 30m for him, right? hulk might be porto's best player but their tag of 60m is RIDICULOUS. for heaven's sake united bought persie for 24m, some1 who is tried n tested in epl( even thought the comparision is not valid as rvp had only 1 year on his contract) but the thought of hulk being anythin more than 30m is unthinkable. so yes their is obvious hate for porto because they are not being REASONABLE with their demands and simply driving us to the point of desperation.also he might not be up on ebay with this pricetag but so many articles and rumors have got to have a base of truth. if u dont belive the media on this then y belive the media on anythin? how do u even know that we are chasing after hulk because of media speculation. also these speculation do seem to be valid as we were willing to pay upto 35m (i think) at one point of time when the deal seemed to be just days from over but if it has fallen apart so drastically it has to be either because of porto's stupid demands or we said pulled out of it. i would rather think it was the former than the latter.First, I haven't said how much I believe Hulk is worth.Second, I didn't say I don't believe what media report, but names and things like Hulk, Chelsea, Porto, 60million, massive rebuilding is what sells the newspapers and trust me, they write lots and lots of shit. I only follow it time from time to see what's going on and really look at it really deeply once the transfer is done. I really have much more smarter things to do then eat what media craps day and day out.Wigan is a team battling to survive relegation in PL and they will archive their goal probably without Moses. They'll pay for few millions for someone to replace him and survive like they always do. Moses is not someone who has big marketing value, European experience and isn't on the peak of his career.Van Persie is 29 years old with 1 year on his contract and with an awful injury record. He only has 1 brilliant season behind him. And just for the record, lots of times after a season like that, players struggle to have another one like that in the coming year though I wouldn't be surpised if RVP did it because of the quality at Manu and Ferguson.I've written this already in Hulk thread and I'll do it again, Hulk is a very complete player that offers a lot to a team. Speed, danger from wings, shots from distance, free kicks, penalties. He is a strong lad and he also has great marketing value. Not only all that, but he has just reached the peak of his career. He would have his best years here and we could still sell him for something nice when the time comes.Don't forget that he still has 4 years left on his contract.Even if 60million is true,If you really believe that Porto expect someone to pay that kind of money for Hulk then you are naive. Nobody would pay that except Anzhi which is where I doubt Hulk would go. As I said, he is a player at the peak of his game with 4 years left on his contract. They are Champions of Portugal and are playing Champions League season and season out.They really don't have to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 250 pages of discussion and still not a Chelsea player. Bravo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Hulk said to Menezes that he will join Chelsea at the end of week, wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Hilarious about Porto being made the bad guys here. I hate Porto with a passion but respect their negotiation skills. Porto is not DEMANDING a price tag. Porto has never ever stated that they want to sell Hulk. They are the ones with the leverage and they are using it. Let's say I own a house that I like, the neighbors are nice, the mortgage is paid off, and I'm happy living there. Then some schlep knocks on my door and says "I really like your house and want to buy it". I don't want to move and therefore I can ask whatever the hell I want for my house, even double or triple the market value. As the homeowner I have no obligation to be fair and I don't give a shit if I insult the buyer with my asking price. If the buyer is still interested in negotiating after the inflated price is revealed then I know I have my hooks in. It is always the schlep's choice to buy my house or move onto the next property.so your house holds talks with u if it wants to let u stay or not? dont make irrelevant comparision. hulk wants to move and by the way this is football not real estate. players get transfered day in and day out. and obviosly for me porto will be the bad guy as i am "the schlep" who wants the house. moreover you are forgetting the most important thing "THE HOUSE" itself. in your "story" the house has no say whereas this is a person we are talkin bout who clearly wants to move to play in a better league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 They really don't have to sell.dude, what was my first post that you quoted, just to clear your memory i said "cant believe this thread is still alive". i know that they dont have to sell him and moreover they dont want to. they wont come down from whatever they are demanding and we dont want to pay the price. y are u telling me what i already know?i know this transfer wont happen and hence my innocent one-liner "cant belive this thread is still alive". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 250 pages of discussion and still not a Chelsea player. Bravo!we had 100s of pages about Aguerro not sure what happened to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vóx 18 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Hulk don´t wanna go to PSGHulk don´t wanna go to Zenit (this guys pays 60M€)Hulk want to go to Chelsea.FC Porto need to sell.So i really believe you guys will have Hulk, just a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 dude, what was my first post that you quoted, just to clear your memory i said "cant believe this thread is still alive". i know that they dont have to sell him and moreover they dont want to. they wont come down from whatever they are demanding and we dont want to pay the price. y are u telling me what i already know?i know this transfer wont happen and hence my innocent one-liner "cant belive this thread is still alive".So you call a team that doesn't have to sell their best player with 4 years on left on his contract a fucking piece of shit? Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vóx 18 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 So you call a team that doesn't have to sell their best player with 4 years on left on his contract a fucking piece of shit? Fair enough.We invest a lot of money last year in Danilo,Alex Sandro and keeping Moutinho and Hulk.We really need to sell i hope we sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 We invest a lot of money last year in Danilo,Alex Sandro and keeping Moutinho and Hulk.We really need to sell i hope we sell.I hope so too, but I'm going by the logic that he has 4 years on his contract, regular CL gametime and a big place in Porto's 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadenza666 221 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 @TheChelseaWayUnconfirmed sources claim that Brasil coach Mano Menezes has said that Hulk's move to Chelsea could be completed by the weekend.#CFCfap fap fap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 So you call a team that doesn't have to sell their best player with 4 years on left on his contract a fucking piece of shit? Fair enough.first of all yes because their methods are not proper. they are hanging hulk as bait and when we try to bite him they pull him away. they have done that all transfer season and that is what pissed me off.secondly "Y SO SERIOUS?" its porto. not chelsea. and i said it relating to the way they do transfers not the way they play.moreover i dont give a shit bout them. all i wanted to say that this thread should have been closed but now i realise i may have added almost a page to it. plus our argument was related to hulk's transfer and this thread so wen u lose a battle dont start waging another one dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_swaggin_96 96 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/267355/Porto-resigned-to-losing-Chelsea-target-Hulk/ porto has gave up on him! the talk on monday must have done it! hopefully we can get rid of some of our dead weights in this deal lowering the price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 first of all yes because their methods are not proper. they are hanging hulk as bait and when we try to bite him they pull him away. they have done that all transfer season and that is what pissed me off.secondly "Y SO SERIOUS?" its porto. not chelsea. and i said it relating to the way they do transfers not the way they play.moreover i dont give a shit bout them. all i wanted to say that this thread should have been closed but now i realise i may have added almost a page to it. plus our argument was related to hulk's transfer and this thread so wen u lose a battle dont start waging another one dude.So now you are talking about closing a thread for our number 1 attacking target while there is still half a month left until the transfer window is closed?Y SO SERIOUS? Because I respect what they do and the football they play. I don't call them a fucking piece of shit because they won't sell a player to the team I support. Attitude like that sends an ugly picture of our fans towards the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vóx 18 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Believe me guys is yours. Probably since last year, cause FC Porto chairman promises to Hulk that if Chelsea want´s him he let him go this year.For us FC Porto fans is a big lost, but expected.Btw is not that bad since most of FC Porto fans like Chelsea, we are both blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Hulk don´t wanna go to PSGHulk don´t wanna go to Zenit (this guys pays 60M€)Hulk want to go to Chelsea.FC Porto need to sell.So i really believe you guys will have Hulk, just a matter of time.Are you a Porto fan?, if so are you quite sure this will even happen?.EDIT: Nevermind, i just seen your other post, you are a Porto fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Believe me guys is yours. Probably since last year, cause FC Porto chairman promises to Hulk that if Chelsea want´s him he let him go this year.For us FC Porto fans is a big lost, but expected.Btw is not that bad since most of FC Porto fans like Chelsea, we are both blue I'm very surprised, i thought most Porto fans hated Chelsea because we bought a lot of there players and bought two of your best managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I'm very surprised, i thought most Porto fans hated Chelsea because we bought a lot of there players and bought two of your best managers.We bought only one great manager Mourinho, who's second? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 We bought only Mourinho, who is second? AVB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 AVB and 'best' in the same sentence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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