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1 minute ago, Vesper said:

he taught them all to drop hundreds of thousands on plastic surgery

that 'Trump Jaw' and Trump fat isn't fixing itself

 

 

it's magic!!!!!

Awwww I actually like Tiffany....well at least more than his other kids. He didnt raise her at all, and I imagine when he kicks the bucket she'll be the one to air his ass out.

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Israeli Strike in Gaza Kills 18, Officials Say, Including 6 U.N. Workers

While resuming its offensive against militants in the West Bank, Israel also kept up its bombardment of the Gaza Strip, striking a school building used as a shelter for displaced people.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/11/world/middleeast/israel-raids-west-bank.html

 

An Israeli airstrike on Wednesday killed at least 18 people, Palestinian officials said, at a school turned shelter in the Gaza Strip that Israel said Hamas used as a command post, and a United Nations agency said six of the dead were its employees.

The attack in Nuseirat, in central Gaza, came as the Israeli military resumed the offensive on another front, launching a new round of deadly raids in the occupied West Bank.

The chief U.N. relief agency for Palestinians, known as UNRWA, said the strike on the Jaouni School building in Nuseirat was the deadliest single incident for its staff over the 11 months of a war that has killed more than 200 of its workers.

The Gaza Civil Defense emergency services said that those killed included women and children and that, in addition to 18 confirmed dead, a similar number were wounded, some of them critically. It said the strike was the fifth time the school, which housed displaced people, had been hit during the war.

Gaza’s schools have not held classes since the fighting began in October, and many school buildings have become shelters for people forced to flee their homes. Israel has increasingly been targeting such schools, with analysts saying that its military has largely destroyed Hamas’s network of tunnels, forcing more fighters above ground.

Since invading Gaza after the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, Israeli forces have also sharply increased the frequency and intensity of raids in the West Bank, saying that it is rooting out armed militants there, as well.

The military mounted raids and at least one airstrike overnight and into Wednesday in the cities of Tulkarm and Tubas in the northern West Bank and in other locations nearby, killing several people it described as terrorists. The actions came after a lull of a few days, following lengthy and destructive incursions into the same region.

Israel’s military said that its forces were carrying out an operation against militants, and that early Wednesday its aircraft struck in Tubas “and eliminated a terrorist cell consisting of five terrorists armed with explosives who posed a threat” to Israeli forces. Palestinian officials also said that five people were killed, and Wafa, the Palestinian Authority’s news agency, reported that the dead were young men near a mosque.

Wafa also said that three other people were killed in another airstrike, on a car in Tulkarm. The Israeli military did not confirm that strike but said that in Tulkarm it had killed at least one person and “located and dismantled an explosives laboratory.”

Since the start of the war, Israeli troops and settlers have killed more than 650 people in the West Bank, including civilians, according to the United Nations. In that time, Israel has carried out 55 airstrikes in the West Bank, which previously were quite rare, the United Nations said.

On Wednesday, President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris both issued their first extensive remarks on the killing last week of an American woman, Aysenur Eygi, 26, who was in the West Bank to protest Israeli settlements. The Israeli military has acknowledged that one of its troops most likely fired the fatal shot during a clash with demonstrators throwing rocks. Other protesters say that Ms. Eygi never took part in the violence, and that the shots were fired after the clash had ended.

Mr. Biden said he was “outraged and deeply saddened” by the killing of Ms. Eygi and demanded “full accountability” from Israel for her death. Ms. Harris said the shooting “raises legitimate questions” about the conduct of Israeli military forces in the West Bank.

The new raids in Tulkarm, on the border with Israel, and Tubas, about 20 miles to the east, followed a series of destructive and lengthy incursions, a particularly intense 10-day campaign that killed at least 39 people, according to the Palestinian authorities, who do not separate civilians from combatants in their casualty counts.

Many Palestinians, especially in Tulkarm and the northern city of Jenin, were trapped in their homes for days while bulldozers ripped up streets in what the Israeli military said was an effort to unearth improvised explosives planted by armed groups.

In Tubas on Wednesday, Harith al-Hasani, a 33-year-old resident, said that Israeli forces had stormed the city during the early morning hours before “clashes erupted and we started hearing explosions.” Israeli aircraft and drones buzzed in the city’s skies, and soldiers also were “walking around on foot,” Mr. al-Hasani said.

“Usually they move around in their vehicles,” he said.

Mr. al-Hasani said that Israeli forces had closed roads with earthen barriers and were interrogating young men in the streets and raiding people’s homes.

Wafa, the news agency, said that Israeli forces had closed all entrances to Tubas and were inspecting ambulances before allowing them to enter a local hospital.

The Israeli military said it could not immediately comment on the reports, but later said its troops had exchanged gunfire with militants in Tubas, arrested some of them and dismantled a car bomb.

Since Oct. 7, raids have been a near-daily reality for the nearly three million Palestinians who live under Israeli occupation in the West Bank. Israeli officials have described the raids as necessary to combat rising Palestinian militancy, particularly a spate of attempted bombings, over the past few weeks. Israeli officials have said that more than 150 attacks against Israelis have emanated from the Jenin and Tulkarm areas in the past year.

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• How do we know climate change is really happening?
• How much agreement is there among scientists about climate change?
• Do we really only have 150 years of climate data? How is that enough to tell us about centuries of change?
• How do we know climate change is caused by humans?
• Since greenhouse gases occur naturally, how do we know they’re causing Earth’s temperature to rise?
• Why should we be worried that the planet has warmed 2°F since the 1800s?
• Is climate change a part of the planet’s natural warming and cooling cycles?
• How do we know global warming is not because of the sun or volcanoes?
• How can winters and certain places be getting colder if the planet is warming?
• Wildfires and bad weather have always happened. How do we know there’s a connection to climate change?
• How bad are the effects of climate change going to be?
• What will it cost to do something about climate change, versus doing nothing?

[Fulham Broadway 17,305]

“Fine Taylor… you win… I will give you a child and guard your cats with my life,”

Wrote Elon Musk -the father-of-12 kids wrote a few hours after the megastar announced her endorsement of Harris and Tim Walz in the November race.

More evidence that wealth doesnt mean you are intelligent. Stupid cunt

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Why are the ads in Chelsea forum and elsewhere so obtrusive ?
It's not that I don't like the forum making money out of the advertsising revenues but I never understood why this obtrusiveness in the internet.
I can understand obtrusiveness and long intervals with commercials on tv.
My record hate occasion was AEK Athens v Feyenord FC for the UEFA cup. They dared stop the live broadcast to show a Peugeot ad. During that interval AEK scored as well (Dimitriades) and we did n't see the goal. But later I reconsidered. I was not about to buy a car but thousands of viewers maybe were. If I was interested in a new car I would later remember Peugeot but forget the connection with the Dimitriades goal.
Again when we watch movies we are not likely to leave our chair and go to the seaside and back for the ten-fifteen minutes the ad intervals last. They have us pinned down.
This has nothing to do with subliminal cuts. That theory was debunked years ago and is not valid. The image of the Peugeot was not subliminal.

Now the internet.
Ok there are the newbies.
When I was an absolute newbie I was searching for the website of a certain periodical. During that search I was clickbaited several times and was made to watch other irrelevant things.
But how many such absolute newbies are left ?

If it was my website I'd have no objection to make a reasonable rearrangement and display adds in stable form, maybe with scrolling.
That way the ad is shown as well as the viewer is not inconvenienced.
Further the stable ad may attract my attention at some point. But the splash windows never. I just click the "x" without hesitation.

So I 'm baffled with the advertisters logic. Who are they ?

p.s. recently youtube, dailymotion have f*cked us up

Edited September 12, 2024 by cosmicway

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8 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

So I 'm baffled with the advertisters logic. Who are they ?

clearly they are commies

[Fulham Broadway 17,305]

On 11/09/2024 at 09:24, cosmicway said:

How many times have we seen  the perpetrators return with the same gobledy gook ?

I think @Vesper and myself and others said to you to use an adblocker

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New video, witnesses challenge Israel’s account of U.S. activist’s killing

The IDF said Aysenur Eygi was shot “unintentionally” during a “violent riot.” A Post analysis shows clashes had subsided and protesters had retreated.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/11/american-activist-aysenur-eygi-killed-idf-west-bank/

 

Left: In a photo taken on the day of Aysenur Eygi's death, she poses with fellow activists. Right: A photo captures the presence of Israeli troops near the protest she attended in the hour before she was shot and killed. (Obtained by The Washington Post)

BEITA, West Bank — It was Aysenur Eygi’s first time at a West Bank demonstration, and she was nervous.

The 26-year-old Turkish American told fellow activists she hoped to be a “protective presence” for Palestinians at a time of spiraling violence across the Israeli-occupied territory.

“We had both decided we did not want to be near any action at all,” said Helen, a volunteer from Australia in her early 60s who was with Eygi throughout the day.

Eygi’s caution did not protect her. She was fatally shot in the head on Friday in the village of Beita, near Nablus, following brief clashes after Friday prayers. The Israel Defense Forces said Tuesday it was “very likely” she had been hit “unintentionally” by one of its soldiers. “The incident took place during a violent riot,” the statement said, and the fire was aimed at “the key instigator.”

But a Washington Post investigation has found that Eygi was shot more than a half-hour after the height of confrontations in Beita, and some 20 minutes after protesters had moved down the main road — more than 200 yards away from Israeli forces. A Palestinian teenager, who witnesses say was standing about 20 yards from Eygi, was wounded by Israeli fire; the IDF would not say if he was a target.

Citing an ongoing investigation, the IDF also declined to answer questions from The Post about why its forces fired toward the demonstrators so long after they had retreated, and from a distance where they posed no apparent threat.

To reconstruct the day’s events, The Post spoke to 13 eyewitnesses and Beita residents and reviewed more than 50 videos and photos provided exclusively by the International Solidarity Movement, the organization Eygi was volunteering with, and Faz3a, another Palestinian advocacy group. Some foreign activists spoke on the condition they be identified by their first name, or on the condition of anonymity, for fear of Israeli reprisals, including being barred from reentering the country.

 

On Wednesday, President Joe Biden called Eygi’s death “totally unacceptable,” adding that Israel’s “preliminary investigation has indicated that it was the result of a tragic error resulting from an unnecessary escalation.” On Tuesday, Secretary of State Antony Blinken called on Israeli security forces to make “fundamental changes” in the way they operate in the West Bank, including to their rules of engagement.

The military’s rules of engagement in the West Bank are confidential, but Israeli rights groups have tried for years to shed light on them. Joel Carmel, the advocacy director of Breaking the Silence, an organization of IDF veterans that collects extensive testimonies from current and former troops, said soldiers and junior commanders are given broad latitude to open fire, including based on speculation about future threats posed by alleged suspects. During some protests, testifiers have said that shots to the legs of “central instigators” are deemed acceptable to deter other demonstrators, according to Carmel.

 

 

Since 2021, the IDF has killed 15 Palestinians during demonstrations in Beita, according to Faz3a and Hisham Dweikat, a local resident and member of the Palestinian National Council. Last month, another American citizen, Daniel Santiago, a 32-year-old teacher from New Jersey, was shot in the thigh by Israeli forces in the same olive grove where Eygi was killed. The IDF said Santiago was “accidentally injured” when soldiers “fired live rounds in the air” to disperse protesters.

Violence has been surging in the West Bank since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attacks on Israel. At least 634 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli forces over that period, according to the United Nations, whose figures do not distinguish between combatants and civilians. The majority have died in escalating military raids on Palestinian refugee camps where militants hold sway; others have been killed by extremist settlers, or in regular confrontations with soldiers in places like Beita.

“It happens every week: tear gas and live ammunition,” Santiago said. “It could have been me, it could have been others too.”

A memorial for Turkish American activist Aysenur Eygi at the site where she was shot dead near Beita. (Heidi Levine for The Washington Post)

‘Gunshot!’

On Friday morning, activists said, Eygi and four other volunteers hired a taxi in Ramallah, the de facto Palestinian capital in the West Bank, and drove about 30 miles north to Beita, a familiar flash point.

Palestinians there have been battling for decades to hold off the steady advance of Israeli settlers. In 2021, in violation of international and Israeli law, settlers erected a cluster of homes and caravans on a nearby hilltop that became the Jewish outpost of Evyatar.

Military evacuation orders never stuck. In June, Evyatar was one of five outposts legalized by Israel’s far-right government — part of a sweeping effort led by Bezalel Smotrich, a longtime settler activist who now serves as finance minister, to solidify Israeli control of the West Bank. Palestinian residents hold weekly prayers on the hillside opposite the settlement as an act of symbolic protest.

“The Israeli army started to come to the area on a weekly basis and tried to prevent the Friday prayer several times,” Dweikat said. “They suppress us with tear gas and bullets, but the activities continued.”

 

 

Eygi had hoped to “bear witness,” said Helen, the Australian activist, who was assigned as her “buddy” to observe Friday’s demonstration. It was her first West Bank protest, too.

The Friday prayer site — a park with a children’s swing and slide atop a steep hill — was quiet when the international observers arrived. But Israeli soldiers were already positioned along the perimeter, residents and activists said.

Villagers started to gather by foot and by car and mingle with the volunteers.

A British activist recounted talking to Eygi as they eyed the soldiers on the other side of the park’s fence. “I’m nervous, because the army’s right there,” he recalled her saying.

It was a little after 12:30 p.m. when the prayers began. Men lined up in rows. Eygi, sitting off to the side, put her hands up to worship. Videos taken by activists show a serene scene.

A screenshot from a video shows men gathering in a children's park to pray on Sept. 6 in Beita. (Obtained by The Washington Post)

As soon as the service ended around 1:05 p.m., the mood shifted, according to videos and eyewitnesses. Older residents drove away. Young men and children took up positions on the road leading down from the park.

It’s unclear how the confrontation began, those present said, but initially it followed the regular rhythm of clashes between heavily armed soldiers and Palestinian protesters. Some threw stones, including with slingshots, while others burned tires on the hillside, photographs show.

Israeli forces used tear gas to disperse the crowd, then resorted almost immediately to live ammunition, residents and activists said.

 

 

“The Israeli soldiers were very provocative,” said Jonathan Pollak, a longtime Israeli activist with Faz3a, who frequently attends the Beita demonstrations and was there that day.

Since October, Pollak said, the use of live fire has become routine in Beita as the military’s “dispersal means of choice.” The IDF declined to comment on its use of live fire during protests.

Alex Chabbott, another American volunteer with Faz3a, was running late. When he began walking up the hill to the prayer area he pulled out his phone to start filming. It was 1:14 p.m., according to a Post review of the video’s metadata.

“Gas, gas, gas!” someone shouts in a second video he filmed two minutes later. Burning tires are visible in the road.

“The soldiers are just out of sight,” Chabbott, 43, said as he filmed, backing down the hill. He turned to run, then paused not far from a child using a slingshot.

Eygi, shocked by the swift escalation, had already started “back down the road, behind the boys, behind the other volunteers,” Helen said.

Other activists and Palestinians took cover behind trees, rocks and terraces, they said, while others put obstacles at various points down the road, including rocks and a dumpster. Protesters said it was a common tactic used to waylay Israeli troops, who often raid the village after Friday prayers.

A photograph taken at 1:21 p.m. shows at least four Israeli soldiers at the top of the hill. Video and photos from the next several minutes show soldiers taking up positions on higher ground — including on the rooftop of Beita resident Ali Maali’s home, and near a military vehicle.

A photo taken by a protester shows Israeli soldiers gathering at the top of a nearby hill.

Obtained by The Washington Post

Maali’s house is built into the slope of the hill. About 80 yards from the prayer site, it offers a clear view of the olive groves below.

Israeli forces frequently commandeer his roof on Fridays, the 44-year-old said, as “it’s a strategic location.” That day, he said, they arrived “immediately after the prayer” and at least four soldiers climbed to the roof. Maali and several others gathered on his veranda below, he said, and tried to stay out of sight.

Helen slipped and fell during “the scary race down the road,” at one point spraining her ankle, she said, but the younger woman stayed with her, “being a protective strength.”

A video filmed at 1:22 p.m. shows the road next to the olive grove. A shot rings out.

“They’re shooting with regular guns!” an activist says off-camera in Japanese. Steven Beck, an audio forensic expert who consulted for the FBI and reviewed the footage for The Post, said the pop heard on the video was consistent with a gunshot — a finding corroborated by a second audio expert, Rob Maher.

 

 

A minute later, the British activist called Eygi to check where she was, according to a call log viewed by The Post. Eygi told him she had already made it down the hill to the olive grove.

“Stay there,” he recalls telling her.

Helen positioned herself behind a tree, she said, with Eygi to her left.

The next few minutes were “calm,” she said. “We had a chance to take a deep breath ... standing in what we thought was a safe distance.”

A video filmed at 1:29 p.m. shows people loitering at the bottom of the hill; a man stands with his hands on his hips.

“They haven’t shot any more live rounds, no more tear gas, yet,” Chabbott, the American volunteer, says in another video filmed around the same time. For nearly 20 minutes after that, the scene remained relatively calm, Palestinians and volunteers said.

But one of the soldiers on the roof was “training his gun in our direction,” recalled Pollak, who was standing next to a dumpster that had been moved into the middle of the road at the bottom of the hill. He and other activists said he was the closest person to Israeli troops at the time, just over 200 yards away; Eygi was around 30 yards farther.

 

 

He saw a muzzle flash and heard two shots, he said.

From his veranda, Maali heard a “strong” sound of a gun firing from above, he said, and the impact “shook the house.”

Helen, standing next to Eygi, “heard a large crack sound of live ammunition.”

The moment of the gunshots was not caught on any of the footage reviewed by The Post. There was nothing much happening at the time to film, activists and residents said.

“Some people say there were two shots, some people say they were three,” said Chabbott, who thought he heard one ping off the dumpster in front of him. “It was chaos.”

At 1:48 p.m., he began filming.

“Gunshot!” an unseen woman can be heard screaming in the background. She pleads for an ambulance.

In the olive grove, Helen saw Eygi drop facedown to the ground beside her. The older woman rolled her over. Blood was pouring from the left side of Eygi’s head, she said, and she was unresponsive.

The investigation

The IDF’s initial inquiry into Eygi’s death “found that it is highly likely that she was hit indirectly and unintentionally by IDF fire which was not aimed at her, but aimed at the key instigator of the riot.”

Yet the shots fired toward the activists, including the one that claimed Eygi’s life, came some 20 minutes after they had retreated to the bottom of the hill — more than two football fields away from the nearest Israeli soldiers.

“Even an Olympic stone thrower cannot make half that distance,” Pollak said.

The IDF did not respond to Post questions about the identity of the “instigator,” or why live fire was justified under the circumstances.

The military’s rules of engagement “are an instrument for justifying use of fire rather than a means for controlling it,” said Carmel, from Breaking the Silence.

 

 

Eran Maoz, 23, who had escaped down the hill with the rest of the crowd, was standing beside a 17 year-old-Palestinian when the shots rang out.

“I saw the boy immediately putting his hand on his stomach,” he said. “I started screaming to the ambulance.”

The Palestinian teenager — who Maoz said was lightly injured by a ricocheting bullet — declined multiple requests to be interviewed via intermediaries, as did his family members.

Maoz doesn’t know if he was hit by a first or second shot, or where exactly the bullet caromed off of — Beita residents said it was probably an electricity pole or the dumpster. It all happened too fast, Maoz said.

And when he realized someone had been more seriously hurt, he ran to the olive grove.

A video he filmed at 1:49 p.m. shows Eygi bleeding and surrounded by paramedics. “Bring a stretcher quickly,” someone cries. “Quickly!” Eygi is lifted into an ambulance.

She was pronounced dead around 2:35 p.m. at Rafidia Hospital, according to director Fouad Nafaa, after multiple attempts at resuscitation.

 

 

During her training with ISM, Eygi had spoken about her fear that she “wouldn’t make a difference,” fellow activists said. Her death has now become a test case for U.S.-Israel relations, after 11 months of growing tensions between the two allies over the war in Gaza and Israeli policy in the West Bank.

“The U.S. government has had full access to Israel’s preliminary investigation, and expects continued access as the investigation continues, so that we can have confidence in the result,” Biden said Wednesday.

Eygi’s loved ones say that’s not enough. “Let us be clear, an American citizen was killed by a foreign military in a targeted attack,” the family said in a statement Wednesday. “The appropriate action is for President Biden and Vice President Harris to speak with the family directly, and order an independent, transparent investigation into the killing of Ayşenur, a volunteer for peace.”

Palestinians and international activists stand inside the morgue where Eygi's body is kept at Rafidia Hospital in Nablus. (Heidi Levine for The Washington Post)

Morris reported from Berlin, Ley from New York and Kelly from Washington. Samuel Granados in Montilla, Spain, and Louisa Loveluck in London contributed to this report.

 

[cosmicway 1,333]

8 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

I think @Vesper and myself and others said to you to use an adblocker

No you said don't use and outta respect I 'm not using.
But my reasons to object are different.

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51 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

I think @Vesper and myself and others said to you to use an adblocker

Goebbels is the most famous of them all.
But the commies are also good.
I always had doubts about both.
How can one be called the king of propaganda when all the opposition is silenced and if all of the opposition is silenced why not me the king of prpaganda ?
Nevertheless both Goebbels and international communism are to be commented for their skills and mastery of the art.
The advertisers have studied both and they are just as good in making fools of the public as well as making fools of company bosses.

There was once a smarmy character I knew and he was pestering me every time to place an ad in his magazine.
I knew he was looking for victims but in the end I gave in. Maybe I felt pity because he had broken his leg.
Surprisingly I got the money back from a customer - exactly the same amount as I paid.

Here however I 'm not charging them for smarminess or vagabondry.
I 'm charging them for doing things the wrong way.

Edited September 12, 2024 by cosmicway

[Fulham Broadway 17,305]

On 11/09/2024 at 09:24, cosmicway said:

How many times have we seen various arguments demolished from their foundation and then the perpetrators return with the same gobledy gook ?

Yet still it happens....

[Fulham Broadway 17,305]

2 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Goebbels is the most famous of them all.

Goebbels adblocker plus. Try that one

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Trump Claims He “Won” the Debate Despite Rambling Incoherently About Transgender Operations, Baby Executions, and Pet-Eating

It’s pretty clear the candidate who said “they’re eating the dogs…they’re eating the cats” did not win.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/trump-claims-he-won-debate-despite-baby-executions-pet-eating

 

If you watched Tuesday night’s presidential debate, and you haven’t had your brain scrambled by the MAGA universe, you know that Kamala Harris resoundingly beat Donald Trump. She expertly nailed the ex-president for the failures of his time in office, for stripping women of reproductive rights, and for being an easily manipulated target of foreign leaders who do not have the United States’ or the world’s best interests at heart. She demonstrated what it would be like to have a compassionate, intelligent, capable leader in the White House, and she did all this while reminding people that her opponent is an out-of-touch, country-dividing narcissist who lies almost every time he speaks and whose grasp on reality is tenuous at best. The contest, to those who are of sound mind, was not even close.

Of course, Trump himself is not of sound mind, which would explain why he apparently believes he emerged from the debate victorious. Speaking to Fox News host Sean Hannity last night, the ex-president said, in regard to a report that Harris’s team had proposed another debate: “She wants it because she lost…. If you won the debate, I sort of think, maybe I shouldn’t do it. Why should I do another debate?… When you’re a prize fighter and you lose, you immediately want a new fight; you want a rematch. The guy that won is sort of happy and thinking about it.”

Obviously, in no sane universe did Trump win. Even if he had laid out sensible policy proposals for a second term—which he absolutely did not—most people would find his completely unhinged remarks disqualifying at best, if not clear evidence that he needs to be placed under some sort of conservatorship. As a reminder, the following are just some of the verbatim things he said last night:

“They’re eating the dogs”

 

“A lot of towns don’t want to talk about it because they’re so embarrassed by it. In Springfield, they’re eating the dogs. The people that came in, they’re eating the cats. They’re eating—they’re eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what’s happening in our country. And it’s a shame.”

That claim then led to this—again, verbatim—exchange between moderator David Muir and Trump:

Muir: I just want to clarify here—you bring up Springfield, Ohio, and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there. He told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals within the immigrant community—

Trump: Well, I’ve seen people on television.

Muir: Let me just say here, this is—

Trump: The people on television say my dog was taken and used for food. So maybe he said that and maybe that’s a good thing to say for a city manager.

Muir: I’m not taking this from television. I’m taking it from the city manager.

Trump: But the people on television say their dog was eaten by the people that went there.

Muir: Again, the Springfield city manager says there’s no evidence of that.

Trump: We’ll find out.

 

“Transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison”

 

“She went out in Minnesota and wanted to let criminals that killed people, that burned down Minneapolis—she went out and raised money to get ’em out of jail. She did things that nobody would ever think of. Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison. This is a radical-left liberal that would do this.”

 

“Execution after birth…is okay”

 

“You can look at the governor of West Virginia, the previous governor of West Virginia, not the current governor, who’s doing an excellent job, but the governor before—he said the baby will be born and we will decide what to do with the baby. In other words, we’ll execute the baby…. The Democrats are radical in that. And her vice presidential pick, which I think was a horrible pick, by the way, for our country, because he is really out of it, but her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine. He also says execution after birth—it’s execution, no longer abortion, because the baby is born—is okay. And that’s not okay with me.”

This claim—which Trump has made on several occasions—led to this fact check from moderator Linsey Davis: “There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it’s born.”

Elsewhere, Trump shouted out his relationships with right-wing authoritarians Viktor Orbán and Vladimir Putin; revealed that, beyond “concepts of a plan,” he has no idea what could replace the Affordable Care Act; refused to admit he lost the 2020 election; blamed Nancy Pelosi for January 6; and said that, aside from “show[ing] up for a speech,” he had nothing whatsoever to do with the attack on the Capitol. Meanwhile, Harris made him look like a small, sad man. So you can probably understand why he’s not entirely enthusiastic about facing off with her again.

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3 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Goebbels adblocker plus. Try that one

Limey.
Le me explain in plain Italian again:
It's not only the forum. Many sites say "turn off adblocker or you stay out".
So why are they displaying the ads in crazy way ?
That's what I 'm asking.