Fernando 6,602 Posted Monday at 14:25 Share Posted Monday at 14:25 9 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Yeah agree he was given millions of dollars by Israel to found TP. You're right he was very pro Isarel, but he was starting to change. Not in his support for Isarel, but in just calling it how it is. He was mentioning Epstein as Mossad and Oct 7th 2023 how the border troops were ordered to stand down - he was going the way of Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens. Interesting, the only problem is that Epstein is dead so we couldn't question about this connectiong as a Mossad agent. But if Kirk was aware of that I'm sure his wife would know...... People can always question his now widow wife in the future about this. If she did know something, did his husband mentioned anything about this? Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,365 Posted Monday at 15:25 Share Posted Monday at 15:25 58 minutes ago, Fernando said: Interesting, the only problem is that Epstein is dead so we couldn't question about this connectiong as a Mossad agent. But if Kirk was aware of that I'm sure his wife would know...... People can always question his now widow wife in the future about this. If she did know something, did his husband mentioned anything about this? Because of his patriarchy, I think his wife was a stay at home stereotype little wife role - he spoke of women should behave like that. Could be wrong though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,602 Posted Monday at 15:56 Share Posted Monday at 15:56 24 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Because of his patriarchy, I think his wife was a stay at home stereotype little wife role - he spoke of women should behave like that. Could be wrong though Yes I did saw a debate about this with him an a femmnist. He did believe in that patriarchy vs the feminist movement. Could be or could not. We will never know unless she spoke about it and if her husband did talk to her about that. At this time just pure speculation. We don't know and have nothing concrete. My speculation is just a general guy that killed him, nothing deep secret conspiracy theory about it. It was a guy that grew up in a conservative life but as he grew up he differed from the views from his family and he got a hatred for Kirk as a fascist pig. Just a normal guy gone crazy with a vendetta for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,365 Posted Monday at 16:14 Share Posted Monday at 16:14 8 minutes ago, Fernando said: Yes I did saw a debate about this with him an a femmnist. He did believe in that patriarchy vs the feminist movement. Could be or could not. We will never know unless she spoke about it and if her husband did talk to her about that. At this time just pure speculation. We don't know and have nothing concrete. My speculation is just a general guy that killed him, nothing deep secret conspiracy theory about it. It was a guy that grew up in a conservative life but as he grew up he differed from the views from his family and he got a hatred for Kirk as a fascist pig. Just a normal guy gone crazy with a vendetta for me. The shooter ? yeah maybe. His dad a staunch Republican dobbed him in apparently. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,365 Posted Monday at 16:40 Share Posted Monday at 16:40 Spanish PM calls for Israel to be barred from international sport Spain's Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez has called for Israel to be excluded from international sports competitions over its actions in Gaza. "Israel cannot continue to use any international platform to whitewash its image," Earlier in the day, Sánchez had said that previous protests during the three-week race had shown that Spain "shines as an example, with pride" on the Gaza issue. Several Spanish government ministers also praised the final stage protest, which involved about 100,000 people, according to official figures. "It's a relief to me that thousands and thousands of people mobilise against that genocide, because it is genocide and it has no other name," said Óscar López, the minister of digital transformation. Culture Minister Ernest Urtasun also said Israel should not take part in the next Eurovision Song Contest, repeating calls made by Sánchez earlier this year. "We have to make sure that Israel does not take part in the next Eurovision," Urtasun said. The public broadcasters of Ireland and the Netherlands have already said they will not participate if Israel is included in the contest, because of the "appalling" and "severe" loss of lives and human suffering in Gaza. A recent poll by the Elcano Royal Institute think tank indicated at least 82% of Spaniards believe genocide is being committed in Gaza. Two days after Sánchez's announcement, the European Commission President, Ursula von der Leyen, called for a suspension of free trade and bilateral support with Israel, as she spoke of the "man-made famine" in Gaza. Von der Leyen also lamented what she called Europe's "painful" inability to find an adequate response to Israel's actions. Israel controls all border crossings into the Gaza Strip, and as the occupying power bears responsibility for protecting civilian life under international law, which includes the prevention of starvation. BBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,602 Posted Monday at 17:14 Share Posted Monday at 17:14 43 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: The shooter ? yeah maybe. His dad a staunch Republican dobbed him in apparently. In one thing where i was debating with vesper is that often times when you read an article it will be highly bias. They tend to take one word or phrase to build their entire teaching. For example I been doing some more further research on what Kirk believe in Immigration just by listening to his word, in context, with no cuts and all that nonsenese that Journos and people do. And it came out a very thought out process. From 14:03 to 24:40 he gives a detail response as to his view on immigration. And I have to say my man gives a thoughtful view. I still don't agree with his point of view with immigration but this is much smarter then labels he got thrown as xenophobic and what not. That's why I tend to be very skeptical with articles and what not as they tend to have a bias and choose and pick what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,365 Posted Monday at 18:22 Share Posted Monday at 18:22 1 hour ago, Fernando said: In one thing where i was debating with vesper is that often times when you read an article it will be highly bias. They tend to take one word or phrase to build their entire teaching. For example I been doing some more further research on what Kirk believe in Immigration just by listening to his word, in context, with no cuts and all that nonsenese that Journos and people do. And it came out a very thought out process. From 14:03 to 24:40 he gives a detail response as to his view on immigration. And I have to say my man gives a thoughtful view. I still don't agree with his point of view with immigration but this is much smarter then labels he got thrown as xenophobic and what not. That's why I tend to be very skeptical with articles and what not as they tend to have a bias and choose and pick what they want. Its interesting as I said - the actual debate where he is changing his views on Isarel has been deleted from Youtube ! Its like we said free speech ? Mmm Luckily some commentators actually recorded the debate/interview. But fuck me the level of censorship is scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,602 Posted Monday at 18:38 Share Posted Monday at 18:38 10 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Its interesting as I said - the actual debate where he is changing his views on Isarel has been deleted from Youtube ! Its like we said free speech ? Mmm Luckily some commentators actually recorded the debate/interview. But fuck me the level of censorship is scary. Thanks for the video. Yes he is asking some questions that to me needs to be address when this is all over. And those should be address when this all over, because no war is eternal. I would think the own Israelites will do a thorought investigation into this and if this is true he would be jailed. Which in all fact I think a lot of people in their should be jailed. They are not committing genocide but more like war crime and officers and what not should go to jail once this is all over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,365 Posted Monday at 18:51 Share Posted Monday at 18:51 6 minutes ago, Fernando said: Thanks for the video. Yes he is asking some questions that to me needs to be address when this is all over. And those should be address when this all over, because no war is eternal. I would think the own Israelites will do a thorought investigation into this and if this is true he would be jailed. Which in all fact I think a lot of people in their should be jailed. They are not committing genocide but more like war crime and officers and what not should go to jail once this is all over. Maybe. Though with respect I prefer to take the word of over 120 organisations and Genocide Study experts, historians and UN Genocide qualified professionals, Israeli Holocaust experts and holocaust survivors along with the Isareli group B'tselem According to a United Nations special committee,Amnesty International, Médecins Sans Frontières, B'Tselem, Physicians for Human Rights–Israel, International Federation for Human Rights, numerous genocide studies and international law scholars(including the International Association of Genocide Scholars), and many other experts, Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians during its ongoing blockade, invasion, and bombing of the Gaza Strip.[ Experts and human rights organisations identified acts of genocide, such as large-scale killing and use of starvation as a weapon of war, with the intent to destroy Gaza's population in whole or in part. Other such genocidal acts include destroying civilian infrastructure, killing healthcare workers and aid-seekers, using mass forced displacement, committing sexual violence, and preventing births. By August 2025, the Gaza Health Ministry had reported that at least 60,138 people in Gaza had been killed—1 out of every 37 people—averaging 91 deaths per day. Most of the victims are civilians, of whom at least 50% are women and children.[Compared to other recent global conflicts, the numbers of known deaths of journalists, humanitarian and health workers, and children are the highest. Thousands more uncounted dead bodies are thought to be under the rubble of destroyed Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,602 Posted Monday at 19:15 Share Posted Monday at 19:15 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Maybe. Though with respect I prefer to take the word of over 120 organisations and Genocide Study experts, historians and UN Genocide qualified professionals, Israeli Holocaust experts and holocaust survivors along with the Isareli group B'tselem According to a United Nations special committee,Amnesty International, Médecins Sans Frontières, B'Tselem, Physicians for Human Rights–Israel, International Federation for Human Rights, numerous genocide studies and international law scholars(including the International Association of Genocide Scholars), and many other experts, Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians during its ongoing blockade, invasion, and bombing of the Gaza Strip.[ Experts and human rights organisations identified acts of genocide, such as large-scale killing and use of starvation as a weapon of war, with the intent to destroy Gaza's population in whole or in part. Other such genocidal acts include destroying civilian infrastructure, killing healthcare workers and aid-seekers, using mass forced displacement, committing sexual violence, and preventing births. By August 2025, the Gaza Health Ministry had reported that at least 60,138 people in Gaza had been killed—1 out of every 37 people—averaging 91 deaths per day. Most of the victims are civilians, of whom at least 50% are women and children.[Compared to other recent global conflicts, the numbers of known deaths of journalists, humanitarian and health workers, and children are the highest. Thousands more uncounted dead bodies are thought to be under the rubble of destroyed But there's a problem I have, and I'm skeptical of UN, they are so biased I have a problem with this: Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruciton of a racial. How can it be deliberate when they are their because of Hamas? If anything it would be hamas that is doing genocide as they provoke this and don't nothing to stop as they don't care for their people. If Gaza are startving then how come Hamas is still kicing on about? So I have a problem with that part of deliberate. The other parts of the definition of genocide are true, Israel is doing that. I don't deny that. The blockade, bombing and all that stuff is true. BUT the definition of genocide is also adding "with the intent to eliminate the groups existence". I don't see that intent when they are their because of Hamas and Hamas still fighting. I will agree with this definition if say Hamas surrender, gives back all the hostage and then Israel continues attacking for no good reason. Then I will say 100 percent genocide. Edited Monday at 19:25 by Fernando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,304 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Outrage as pro-Trump rapper and country singer release pro-lynching song: ‘Hang ‘em up high at sundown’ White rapper and singer call for public hangings after raging against reactions to Charlie Kirk’s death https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-rapper-lynching-song-country-b2827708.html A white rapper known for viral anthems supporting Donald Trump and Republican officials has released a music video with a country singer calling for public lynchings. Over a banjo riff, the chorus of “Good vs Evil” from MAGA rapper Forgiato Blow and country singer JJ Lawhorn repeats instructions for hanging people at “sundown,” an apparent reference to “sundown towns” that violently enforce racial segregation. The song calls for “a big tall tree and a short piece of rope” to “hang ‘em up high at sundown” and “leave ‘em swinging so the folks all know you don’t mess around in our town.” A verse from Forgiato Blow, whose real name is Kurt Jantz, lists three white murder victims whose killer or accused killers are Black and Latino. He named the killings of Austin Metcalf, Laken Riley, and Iryna Zarutska, who was fatally stabbed on a bus in North Carolina. Jantz says she was killed by a “n******.” Later, Lawhorn sings “we ought to do it like they did it way back in the day because grandaddy’s way works best.” The song follows the assassination of right-wing Christian activist Charlie Kirk, which has provided the Trump administration with a framework to prosecute Democratic officials and left-wing groups by using a sweeping campaign against protected speech. “I’m done being silent in my faith!” Jantz wrote in a post on Instagram sharing the song. “Im done being a silent conservative, I’m no longer concerned that truth may hurt your feelings. Jesus is coming back and we are all part of his mission! I am Charlie Kirk!” “SOMEBODY HAS TO SAY IT,” Lawhorn wrote. Jantz, the self-described “Mayor of MAGAville,” has been the face of a “MAGA rap” subgenre built explicitly around support for the president with provocative songs referencing right-wing culture wars and Trump’s agenda, seemingly designed to bait critics. “In the wake of all the violent killings recently… is it time to bring back public executions?” Jantz wrote on X. “RT if you agree!” “Meanwhile they say the left is engaging in hate speech,” one person wrote on social media in response to his latest song. “Insane how unsubtle this is,” another wrote. “What else do you call this other than a call for violence?” asked another. More than 6,500 people, mostly African Americans, were killed in racist attacks between 1865 and 1950 in the aftermath of the Civil War and emancipation and through an era of white militia terror during Reconstruction and in the years surrounding the Civil Rights movement, according to the Equal Justice Initiative. Black people were the primary victims of lynching, though immigrants from Mexico, China, Australia, and other countries were also lynched, and some white people were lynched for aiding Black people or for their position against lynching, the Equal Justice Initiative found. The Emmett Till Anti-Lynching Act — named after the Black teenager whose murder in 1955 magnified Jim Crow-era violence that galvanized the Civil Rights movement — designates lynching as a crime punishable by up to 30 years in prison. It passed the House of Representatives in 2022 by a vote of 433-7 and cleared the Senate unanimously. Joe Biden signed it into law that year. Following Kirk’s death, Trump and right-wing figures quickly sought to punish left-wing voices for rhetoric they blamed for his killing, with a renewed commitment from the Trump administration to crack down on the “radical left.” “For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world's worst mass murderers and criminals,” Trump said in a speech from the Oval Office. “This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in our country today, and it must stop right now,” he added. “My administration will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it.” Elon Musk — who owns X, where the song has been viewed more than 100,000 times — called the Democratic Party the “party of murder” and accused media outlets and educational institutions of “programming people to murder.” He said that he was going to “fix” the platform’s AI assistant Grok after it cited research that showed right-wing violence was more prevalent than left-wing violence. Between the January 6 insurrection and the 2024 election, there were at least 300 cases of political violence, marking the largest surge in such attacks since the 1970s, according to a Reuters analysis. Since 2016, there were nearly three times as many partisan-driven attacks and plots in the United States as in the previous quarter-century, a 2023 Center for Strategic and International Studies paper found. Yet a large body of research has found that right-wing extremists have killed more people than those associated with any other political cause in the United States within the last two decades, though many of those attacks don’t map neatly onto one political ideology. Trump’s Department of Justice recently removed a study from its website showing that white supremacist and far-right violence “continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism” in the United States. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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