Politics & Stuff

[cosmicway 1,333]

IQ is a notoriously hit and miss idea.
Suppose this thing happens and Scotland yard invite you to solve a crime.
There are possibilities:

- you have no clue, you don't solve the murder
- it's a copycat of a crime you 've seen before - Scotland yard are amazed and they make you detective superintendant
- you make a lucky guess
- you have n't seen it before yet you actually do solve it on the spot

Only the fourth possibility is IQ.
Old IQ Mensa tests were error prone because of the above ambiguities.
Modern tests are again not perfect but considerably improved.

[Beorn 11]

6 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

Imagine being a WELSH white supremacist:

I'm not. Imagine having no reading comprehension. 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

4 hours ago, Beorn said:

I'm not. Imagine having no reading comprehension. 

What do you think of the quote?

[cosmicway 1,333]

The brexiters are deluded people and compulsive liars.

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

That Richard Lynn that Beom quotes above is a totally discredited racist fuckwit and the University of Ulster withdrew his title of Professor in 2018 because he was an unmitigated twat and editor of White Supremacist journal . 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

41 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

That Richard Lynn that Beom quotes above is a totally discredited racist fuckwit and the University of Ulster withdrew his title of Professor in 2018 because he was an unmitigated twat and editor of White Supremacist journal . 

Its actually sad.

 

This is a man from an, objectively, poor area who's only thing that he can grasp on to feel better about his lot is an idea of being superior for having white intellect. This flys in the face of reality he sees every day in living in a poor area, but when a man has nothing he will cling on to whatever he can get. Its an inferiority complex, and instead of being grateful to a wider UK(and specifically the south east), he looks his nose down on you for having immigrants. God bless him.

[Vesper 30,101]

The destitution that sets the UK apart from Europe

Social stigma against welfare benefits has made devastating poverty acceptable in Britain.

https://www.socialeurope.eu/the-destitution-that-sets-the-uk-apart-from-europe

 

Britain today: decaying Victorian/Edwardian terraces, decrepit postwar social housing (I Wei Huang / shutterstock.com)

 

 

Britain is in a poverty crisis. Over 14 million people (one in five) are living in poverty. Of these, four million, including one million children, are classed as destitute—regularly unable to meet basic needs for shelter, warmth, food and clothing.

Cuts to the welfare state over the last decade have contributed to a deepening of poverty in Britain not seen in any of its European neighbours. What sets Britain apart (and has made it possible for these cuts to continue) is the intense stigma placed on people living in poverty who receive state benefits.

Stigma sorts people into two categories: ‘the deserving’ and ‘the undeserving’. Elderly (pension-aged) citizens, children and disabled people have tended to fall into the deserving category, while people deemed able-bodied and hence able to work are viewed more harshly if they receive support.

This has been seen throughout the UK election campaign, in discussions about getting people back into work. The outgoing prime minister, Rishi Sunak, has said that his Conservatives intend to cut the welfare bill by getting people into work. In the last pre-election television debate, he said it was ‘not fair‘ of people on benefits not to take a job they were offered after 12 months out of work. The implication was that some people who received benefits were cheating the system.

Peculiarly British phenomenon

The social-policy researchers Robert Walker and Elaine Chase argue that using stigma to ration relief is a peculiarly British phenomenon, having declined in more egalitarian, less class-riven European states. Stereotypes pitting ‘scroungers‘ against those in ‘genuine’ need have been especially acute in the age of austerity. From 2010, the then Conservative / Liberal Democrat coalition sought support for swingeing cuts to the welfare system, by persuading the public that those receiving benefits were ‘trapped in dependency’. The then Tory prime minister, David Cameron, declared ‘a war on welfare culture’ in 2011, arguing that the benefit system ‘actively encourages’ people to act irresponsibly.

A moral panic about ‘benefits cheats’ followed. Politicians and journalists portrayed working-age adults receiving benefits as a lazy or criminal group who were deliberately scamming hardworking taxpayers. Hundreds of hours of ‘reality’ television programmes exploited this theme, creating a new genre of ‘poverty porn‘.

The late social-policy expert John Hills argued that framing state welfare as an unaffordable system of cash benefits exploited by ‘economically inactive’ people was incorrect and a ruse by politicians to slash all public services. Drawing on social-attitudes data, he found that the very idea of welfare had contracted in public consciousness to a debate about ‘a stagnant group of people benefiting from it all, while the rest pay in and get nothing back—”skivers” against “strivers”’. Sunak has revived these claims with proclamations about Britain’s supposed ‘sick note culture’, with disabled people ‘parked on welfare‘.

This view is borne out in policies that have, over time, increased job search and work requirements—known as ‘conditionality’—for people receiving benefits. This is despite evidence showing such policies don’t work and that 38 per cent of people receiving the main benefit known as universal credit are in work.

For more than a decade, I have studied the effects of stigma on people living in poverty. I have interviewed health, public-sector and charity workers, including general practitioners and headteachers, about the effects of deepening poverty and the impact of this toxic stigma narrative. By framing poverty in Britain as a deserved consequence of poor life choices or a reluctance to work, stigma diverts blame from political decision-makers on to those struggling to make ends meet.

The impact of stigma

Feeling ashamed of being poor stops people seeking help and support. The gnawing anxiety that their lack of resources will be exposed to others can lead people to withdraw from social activities and become isolated. A former schoolteacher I interviewed was forced to give up work due to illness as stories about benefits cheats peaked:

You only have to watch any programme and there is evidence there that your kind are hated. These people are stealing your taxes and you’re thinking, ‘that is me they are talking about’. Trapped in this cycle of being hated by everybody … It’s relentless. Never-ending. One constant cycle of judgement. Until you are ashamed to do anything.

I am part of a team commissioned by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation to investigate the effects of stigma and explore how to stop it. Our recently published report describes stigma as ‘a glue that holds poverty in place’. When politicians (through speeches and policy) and the media (through ‘reality’ TV or stigmatising reports) teach us to see poverty as a result of others’ bad choices rather than a systemic problem, it becomes socially acceptable. In this way, poverty and poverty stigma reinforce each other.

As we are exploring, stigma can be designed out of policies and services. For example, measures to ‘poverty proof‘ the school day, such as changing how meals (and free school meals) are delivered so students are not marked out as different, making school uniforms more affordable and designing school events to be accessible to everybody, can also help ‘stigma proof’ schools for children from low-income families. But this only works if organisations first listen to those living in poverty and learn to see things from their perspectives.

Poverty must be reframed as an issue of economic injustice, shifting blame away from individuals. The next government at Westminster must end the use of stigmatising labels such as ‘economically inactive‘ to describe people with disabilities or unpaid caring responsibilities, or ‘low-skilled’ to describe low-paid work. This latter point must go hand-in-hand with campaigning for greater pay equity and real living wages.

To end Britain’s poverty crisis, everyone needs to reject stigma, by exposing it for what it is—a tool used by the powerful to justify economic inequality and injustice.

[cosmicway 1,333]

Faamily pride demos.
You heard of those ?
I always thought the opposite to gay pride is milf pride - a demo of milfs seeking men.
What family pride ?

[cosmicway 1,333]

The day of waking up
 

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

6 hours ago, Vesper said:

The destitution that sets the UK apart from Europe

Social stigma against welfare benefits has made devastating poverty acceptable in Britain.

https://www.socialeurope.eu/the-destitution-that-sets-the-uk-apart-from-europe

 

Britain today: decaying Victorian/Edwardian terraces, decrepit postwar social housing (I Wei Huang / shutterstock.com)

 

 

Britain is in a poverty crisis. Over 14 million people (one in five) are living in poverty. Of these, four million, including one million children, are classed as destitute—regularly unable to meet basic needs for shelter, warmth, food and clothing.

Cuts to the welfare state over the last decade have contributed to a deepening of poverty in Britain not seen in any of its European neighbours. What sets Britain apart (and has made it possible for these cuts to continue) is the intense stigma placed on people living in poverty who receive state benefits.

Stigma sorts people into two categories: ‘the deserving’ and ‘the undeserving’. Elderly (pension-aged) citizens, children and disabled people have tended to fall into the deserving category, while people deemed able-bodied and hence able to work are viewed more harshly if they receive support.

This has been seen throughout the UK election campaign, in discussions about getting people back into work. The outgoing prime minister, Rishi Sunak, has said that his Conservatives intend to cut the welfare bill by getting people into work. In the last pre-election television debate, he said it was ‘not fair‘ of people on benefits not to take a job they were offered after 12 months out of work. The implication was that some people who received benefits were cheating the system.

Peculiarly British phenomenon

The social-policy researchers Robert Walker and Elaine Chase argue that using stigma to ration relief is a peculiarly British phenomenon, having declined in more egalitarian, less class-riven European states. Stereotypes pitting ‘scroungers‘ against those in ‘genuine’ need have been especially acute in the age of austerity. From 2010, the then Conservative / Liberal Democrat coalition sought support for swingeing cuts to the welfare system, by persuading the public that those receiving benefits were ‘trapped in dependency’. The then Tory prime minister, David Cameron, declared ‘a war on welfare culture’ in 2011, arguing that the benefit system ‘actively encourages’ people to act irresponsibly.

A moral panic about ‘benefits cheats’ followed. Politicians and journalists portrayed working-age adults receiving benefits as a lazy or criminal group who were deliberately scamming hardworking taxpayers. Hundreds of hours of ‘reality’ television programmes exploited this theme, creating a new genre of ‘poverty porn‘.

The late social-policy expert John Hills argued that framing state welfare as an unaffordable system of cash benefits exploited by ‘economically inactive’ people was incorrect and a ruse by politicians to slash all public services. Drawing on social-attitudes data, he found that the very idea of welfare had contracted in public consciousness to a debate about ‘a stagnant group of people benefiting from it all, while the rest pay in and get nothing back—”skivers” against “strivers”’. Sunak has revived these claims with proclamations about Britain’s supposed ‘sick note culture’, with disabled people ‘parked on welfare‘.

This view is borne out in policies that have, over time, increased job search and work requirements—known as ‘conditionality’—for people receiving benefits. This is despite evidence showing such policies don’t work and that 38 per cent of people receiving the main benefit known as universal credit are in work.

For more than a decade, I have studied the effects of stigma on people living in poverty. I have interviewed health, public-sector and charity workers, including general practitioners and headteachers, about the effects of deepening poverty and the impact of this toxic stigma narrative. By framing poverty in Britain as a deserved consequence of poor life choices or a reluctance to work, stigma diverts blame from political decision-makers on to those struggling to make ends meet.

The impact of stigma

Feeling ashamed of being poor stops people seeking help and support. The gnawing anxiety that their lack of resources will be exposed to others can lead people to withdraw from social activities and become isolated. A former schoolteacher I interviewed was forced to give up work due to illness as stories about benefits cheats peaked:

You only have to watch any programme and there is evidence there that your kind are hated. These people are stealing your taxes and you’re thinking, ‘that is me they are talking about’. Trapped in this cycle of being hated by everybody … It’s relentless. Never-ending. One constant cycle of judgement. Until you are ashamed to do anything.

I am part of a team commissioned by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation to investigate the effects of stigma and explore how to stop it. Our recently published report describes stigma as ‘a glue that holds poverty in place’. When politicians (through speeches and policy) and the media (through ‘reality’ TV or stigmatising reports) teach us to see poverty as a result of others’ bad choices rather than a systemic problem, it becomes socially acceptable. In this way, poverty and poverty stigma reinforce each other.

As we are exploring, stigma can be designed out of policies and services. For example, measures to ‘poverty proof‘ the school day, such as changing how meals (and free school meals) are delivered so students are not marked out as different, making school uniforms more affordable and designing school events to be accessible to everybody, can also help ‘stigma proof’ schools for children from low-income families. But this only works if organisations first listen to those living in poverty and learn to see things from their perspectives.

Poverty must be reframed as an issue of economic injustice, shifting blame away from individuals. The next government at Westminster must end the use of stigmatising labels such as ‘economically inactive‘ to describe people with disabilities or unpaid caring responsibilities, or ‘low-skilled’ to describe low-paid work. This latter point must go hand-in-hand with campaigning for greater pay equity and real living wages.

To end Britain’s poverty crisis, everyone needs to reject stigma, by exposing it for what it is—a tool used by the powerful to justify economic inequality and injustice.

So many people are not aware that the Conservative Party are there solely to represent the very rich, sow division and chaos, destroy EVERY public service, and steal billions of public money. There is nothing else about them.

[cosmicway 1,333]

36 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

So many people are not aware that the Conservative Party are there solely to represent the very rich, sow division and chaos, destroy EVERY public service, and steal billions of public money. There is nothing else about them.

E vero. But now it's the Billy liars.

[Beorn 11]

On 06/07/2024 at 19:09, Fulham Broadway said:

That Richard Lynn that Beom quotes above is a totally discredited racist fuckwit and the University of Ulster withdrew his title of Professor in 2018 because he was an unmitigated twat and editor of White Supremacist journal . 

Sure , but I have literally no idea who he is , he isn’t someone I follow. He was just on one of the articles I saw following a google search. Who knows if he conducted the study himself or is just commenting on it. The point wasn’t to put Scottish or anyone else down anyway 

if you write “they aren’t the brightest over there” you’re very unlikely to receive a positive response from the people “over there”. In fact, if you wrote the exact same thing about Somalians or Pakistanis you’d be in hot water yourself. 

 

[Beorn 11]

On 06/07/2024 at 19:57, Sir Mikel OBE said:

Its actually sad.

 

This is a man from an, objectively, poor area who's only thing that he can grasp on to feel better about his lot is an idea of being superior for having white intellect. This flys in the face of reality he sees every day in living in a poor area, but when a man has nothing he will cling on to whatever he can get. Its an inferiority complex, and instead of being grateful to a wider UK(and specifically the south east), he looks his nose down on you for having immigrants. God bless him.

Great narrative, but I don’t live in a deserted village in Belarus. Let’s not get carried away 

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

4 hours ago, Beorn said:

I have literally no idea who he is , he isn’t someone I follow. He was just on one of the articles I saw following a google search. Who knows if he conducted the study himself or is just commenting on it.

 If you look him up he lost all credibility and was stripped of his academic credentials in 2018 at the University of Ulster for being a racist fuckwit.

[YorkshireBlue 3,264]

This political topic got interesting real quick 

 

*Insert Micheal Jackson eating popcorn GIF*