YorkshireBlue 3,281 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said: Epstein Mossad agent like Maxwell, more than likely had leverage on Trump, Clinton, many others to do what Israel wanted. So fucking obvious. No offence to you or to anybody else who has a belief in something so strong, but flat earthers say it’s so fucking obvious aswell and it’s only “so obvious” to anybody that actually has an agenda Edited July 10 by YorkshireBlue Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,335 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 35 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: No offence to you or to anybody else who has a belief in something so strong, but flat earthers say it’s so fucking obvious aswell and it’s only “so obvious” to anybody that actually has an agenda Funnily enough my builder mate works with a bloke from Yorkshire who is a flat earther ! Mad as a box of frogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,821 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 It is such a tough time to be an American. It is like living through an episode of Twilight Zone. Trump is bad enough, but he has brought so many bat shit crazy people with him. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,281 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Funnily enough my builder mate works with a bloke from Yorkshire who is a flat earther ! Mad as a box of frogs Yeah, I think u have to be mental to believe the earth is flat 😂 Edited July 10 by YorkshireBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 20 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said: Epstein Mossad agent like Maxwell, more than likely had leverage on Trump, Clinton, many others to do what Israel wanted. So fucking obvious. That sounds like conspiracy theory to me. Edited July 11 by Fernando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,335 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 5 minutes ago, Fernando said: That sounds like conspiracy theory to me. Yeah and me 🤣 'Mossad Agent' Jeffrey Epstein's 'Suicide' Strangely Familiar Jeffrey Epstein's ‘suicide’ has eerie similarities to rogue Mossad agent's alleged assassination For writer who broke Epstein case, a rumored Mossad link is worth digging into | The Times of Israel Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad spy, says investigative journalist Dylan Howard | 7NEWS Jeffrey Epstein was blackmailing politicians for Israel’s Mossad, new book claims – Middle East Monitor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 14 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Yeah and me 🤣 'Mossad Agent' Jeffrey Epstein's 'Suicide' Strangely Familiar Jeffrey Epstein's ‘suicide’ has eerie similarities to rogue Mossad agent's alleged assassination For writer who broke Epstein case, a rumored Mossad link is worth digging into | The Times of Israel Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad spy, says investigative journalist Dylan Howard | 7NEWS Jeffrey Epstein was blackmailing politicians for Israel’s Mossad, new book claims – Middle East Monitor Those pages scream of sensationalism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,335 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 hours ago, Fernando said: Those pages scream of sensationalism Yes totally incredible -whereas someone crucified being dead for three days and ascending up to heaven is so much more plausible isnt it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said: Yes totally incredible -whereas someone crucified being dead for three days and ascending up to heaven is so much more plausible isnt it ? That has more credibility then the pages you giving that are nothing but sensationalism. Seems you like that, and the conspiracy theory. That is cool if that is your thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,335 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 10 hours ago, Fernando said: That has more credibility then the pages you giving that are nothing but sensationalism. Seems you like that, and the conspiracy theory. That is cool if that is your thing. In Epsteins mansions is Miami, the private Island, in Paris, and new York there were a total of 265 rooms. Every room had secret video cameras. Luring the rich and powerful to fuck children and young girls why would he do that ? Rhetorical Times of Israel Did the now-deceased, disgraced financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein have links to the Israeli intelligence community? An investigative reporter for The Miami Herald claims that credible details making the link “are not far-fetched and need to be explored in further detail and examined.” “It’s not beyond the realm of possibility that Epstein had connections to the [Israeli intelligence community],” says Julie K. Brown, whose book “Perversion of Justice: The Jeffrey Epstein Story” was released on July 20. “Robert Maxwell certainly had those kinds of connections, and Epstein had a close relationship with Robert Maxwell,” the 59-year-old American journalist told The Times of Israel via Zoom call from her home in Hollywood, Florida. Brown keenly stresses the striking similarities between Jeffrey Epstein’s death in August 2019 and Robert Maxwell’s death in November 1991. The 68-year-old British media mogul was said to have drowned after falling from his luxurious yacht, the Lady Ghislaine, near the Canary Islands. Spanish police insisted no foul play was suspected in Maxwell’s death, but rumors about how exactly Maxwell died have never gone away. One theory points to a possible suicide. Another claims Maxwell was assassinated by the Israeli Mossad intelligence agency, for which he was secretly working. Maxwell is buried on Jerusalem’s Mount of Olives. Many members of the Israeli intelligence community attended his funeral. So too did Yitzhak Shamir, Israel’s then-prime minister. Shamir eulogized the British tycoon for the political connections he brought to Israel during the 1980s, and for the money he invested in it. Get The Times of Israel's Daily Editionby email and never miss our top stories Newsletter email addressGet it By signing up, you agree to the terms Two years ago, while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges, 66-year-old American financier Epstein was found hanging in his cell in a Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan. Since then, numerous theories have swirled about Epstein’s true cause of death, making the leap from conspiracy fodder into the cultural mainstream. Julie K. Brown, author of ‘Perversion of Justice: The Jeffrey Epstein Story.’ (Eileen Soler) According to Brown, “neither the FBI nor the United States Justice Department have convinced me that Jefferey Epstein committed suicide.” “Why would Epstein give up before he even got to court?” Brown asks. She also points to a number of other murky details: Epstein breaking three bones in his neck before he died, and the fact that the two prison guards who were supposed to be keeping a watchful eye on Epstein in his Manhattan jail cell mysteriously fell asleep at the same time. Advertisement “It just defies common sense,” Brown says. “And why are [US] authorities not making the information they do know about Epstein’s death public?” The Israel connection One chapter in Brown’s latest book argues that the complex relationship Jeffery Epstein had with the Maxwell family may provide further answers. That history stretches back to the mid-1980s, when Epstein allegedly began helping Robert Maxwell hide money in numerous offshore bank accounts. Maxwell, a self-made billionaire, was born Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch, into a poor, Yiddish-speaking Orthodox Jewish family in Czechoslovakia in 1923. Maxwell lost both his parents in the Holocaust, and later made his fortune in the book publishing and newspaper industries. He went on to become a parliamentary representative for Britain’s Labour Party, but the final years of Maxwell’s life were plagued by financial trouble and earned him the nickname “the crook of the century.” Maxwell defaulted on $2 billion worth of loans and subsequently raided millions of pounds from his company’s retirement fund, even stealing from his own staff’s pensions and shares in Britain’s Mirror Group as he refused to face his inevitable bankruptcy. An undated photo of British newspaper magnate Robert Maxwell, who was found dead in the sea off the Canary Islands in November 1991, following a reported fall from his yacht. (AP Photo) Following Robert Maxwell’s death three decades ago, Epstein became an important figure to certain members of the Maxwell family, who were then left bankrupt and riddled with debt. Brown notes, for instance, that Epstein attended an event at New York’s Plaza Hotel on November 24, 1991, at which the YIVO Institute for Jewish Research paid tribute to Robert Maxwell. The author also speculates that Epstein may have even offered financial assistance to Robert Maxwell’s wife Elizabeth when she became a widow. Epstein then became romantically involved with Elizabeth and Robert Maxwell’s ninth child, Ghislaine. Advertisement Known to be her father’s favorite child and his most trusted confidante, Ghislaine Maxwell may have been aware of many secrets her father took to the grave relating to his controversial political, financial, and espionage life, believes Brown. The body of the late Robert Maxwell is interred at the Jerusalem Jewish Mount of Olives cemetery on November 10, 1991. (AP Photo/Michel Euler) A budding relationship After her father’s death, Ghislaine Maxwell moved from London to New York — partially to escape all of the negative publicity surrounding it, but also to reinvent herself in the city’s buzzing celebrity social circle. This was a crucial component of Epstein and Maxwell’s complex relationship: She connected him to powerful figures who were then beyond his reach such as the Clintons, Donald Trump and Prince Andrew. In return, Epstein bankrolled her. Brown believes Maxwell was in love with Epstein, but Epstein manipulated her to gratify a sexual obsession he had with underage women, which the journalist describes as “a sickness.” “Epstein was a [sociopath] who felt he had enough power and money to be above the law,” says Brown. “And he believed he was brilliant enough to manipulate anyone to get what he wanted.” “How much money Ghislaine Maxwell had when her father died has always been a mystery,” says Brown. “But Maxwell enjoyed the high life, and never had any real career or job, so Epstein supported her financially. In this September 2, 2000, file photo, British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell, driven by Britain’s Prince Andrew leaves the wedding of a former girlfriend of the prince, Aurelia Cecil, at the Parish Church of St Michael in Compton Chamberlayne near Salisbury, England (Chris Ison/PA via AP, File) Ghislaine Maxwell is currently charged in the United States with lying under oath and recruiting, grooming and trafficking girls to be sexually abused by Epstein from the 1990s through 2004. The 59-year-old outspoken British socialite has pleaded not guilty, and is presently being held in a New York prison awaiting trial, which is set to begin this coming November. If convicted, Maxwell could face up to 80 years in prison. “So far, Maxwell is playing the same game with her defense [lawyers] as Epstein did: They are throwing every motion they can against these prosecutors to try to wear them down,” says Brown. “But it probably won’t work because the prosecutors that are handling [the case] this time around are much more dedicated and are not going to give up as easily.” The best of the worst Brown has a detailed understanding of how prosecutors can be corrupted in a high-profile case relating to sex trafficking accusations: Her newly-released book began as a three-part series of investigative articles she wrote for The Miami Herald in 2018. They exposed a secret plea deal arranged by Epstein’s lawyers, who undermined and manipulated the US criminal justice system so their client, Epstein, could get a softer prison sentence and ultimately escape federal prosecution. Advertisement Brown showed how back in 2007 Epstein was accused of assembling a cult-like network of underage girls — with the help of young female recruiters — to coerce into having sex acts behind the walls of his opulent waterfront mansion in Palm Beach, Florida, as often as three times a day. Brown’s articles also noted how FBI and court records showed Epstein was suspected of trafficking minor girls, often from overseas, for sex parties at his other homes in Manhattan, New Mexico and the Caribbean. This March 28, 2017 photo provided by the New York State Sex Offender Registry shows Jeffrey Epstein. (New York State Sex Offender Registry via AP, File) “This dark and deep obsession that Epstein had [with underage women] was an addiction,” says Brown. “And the victims [I interviewed] told me that if they couldn’t bring him [another] girl, he would get angry at them. I imagine Epstein was doing the same thing with Ghislaine Maxwell, saying, ‘You’ve got to bring me more girls.'” “One of the ironies of this case is that Maxwell seemed to have moved herself away from Epstein just when my series [of articles] came out,” says Brown. “But then the whole [story] resurrected itself in her life again.” Based on a 53-page federal indictment, Epstein back in 2008 could have potentially ended up in federal prison for the rest of his life. Instead, the non-prosecution agreement Epstein’s lawyers secretly cut with federal prosecutors at the time shut down an ongoing FBI probe into whether there were more victims and other powerful people who took part in Epstein’s sex crimes. The deal required that Epstein plead guilty to two prostitution charges in a state court and agree to serve just 13 months in a county jail in Palm Beach, Florida. This essentially made the case that Epstein was only paying for sex, when he actually stood accused of sexually abusing minors. “To see prosecutors, who are supposed to be advocating for victims, work so closely with Epstein’s lawyers to make this case go away was pretty surprising,” says Brown. Advertisement The journalist also exposed how Epstein’s enormous wealth and prestige afforded him extra privileges as he served his prison sentence in a Florida county jail. Brown’s book reveals how Epstein was allowed to visit his office in West Palm Beach for several hours every day. Additionally, during the hours he was inside the prison, Epstein was given access to a computer. On at least one occasion, one jail deputy saw Epstein masturbating while he watched one of his female assistants strip naked for him on Skype. Toppling dominoes It was not public knowledge that Epstein and four of his accomplices named in the secret plea agreement received immunity from all federal criminal charges until Brown’s explosive expose was published three years ago. When the story broke, it led federal prosecutors in New York to open a fresh criminal investigation, which resulted in Epstein being subsequently arrested and charged in the summer of 2019. It also led to R. Alexander Acosta resigning as labor secretary in the Trump administration in July 2019. Crucially, Brown’s story explained how Acosta had helped cut the dodgy deal with Epstein’s legal team back in 2008, when he was a federal prosecutor in Miami. ‘Perversion of Justice: The Jeffrey Epstein Story,’ by Julie K. Brown. (Courtesy) “When [president] Donald Trump nominated Alex Acosta to be his labor secretary in early 2017, I immediately recognized Acosta’s name as being the prosecutor who was responsible for the [non-prosecution] deal,” Brown says. “And I just wondered, how do [Epstein’s] victims feel about this — because Acosta was responsible for the Labor Department, which supervises human trafficking and child labor laws.” Brown notes that Epstein’s vast fortune (then estimated to be approximately $500 million) enabled him to hire a so-called legal dream team, which included lawyers such as Kenneth Starr and Alan Dershowitz, with the necessary skills, political connections and aggressive tactics to make sure he could get immunity. “Dershowitz has his own political connections and knows a lot of different people in the US criminal justice system,” says Brown. “But he is going to be watching Maxwell’s [forthcoming] court case closely to see who she names, and what information she really has.” Brown’s book also points to accusations by Virginia Giuffre that subsequently surfaced in connection to the Epstein case, which allegedly link Dershowitz’s name to Epstein’s sexual pyramid scheme. Now in her mid-30s, Giuffre is an advocate for sex trafficking victims and claims Maxwell groomed her when she was still a teenager to be a sex slave for Maxwell, Epstein, Prince Andrew, and other prominent men — including Dershowitz. Screen capture from video of Virginia Roberts Giuffre gesturing during an interview on the BBC Panorama program aired on December 2, 2019. (BBC Panorama via AP) This story also recently surfaced in a Netflix documentary called “Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich.” It has led Dershowitz to sue Netflix over what he claims are false allegations made against him in relation to these alleged crimes. Other high-profile political figures named in Brown’s book accused of participating in Epstein’s international sex trafficking operation include allegations against Israel’s 10th prime minister, Ehud Barak. Brown says all the accused have the right to be innocent until proven guilty, though she stresses that given the complex history of the Epstein case and the cover-ups it involved, these allegations need to be urgently investigated. “The FBI, the [US] federal authorities, and law enforcement authorities in Europe should all be looking at the financial and social connections Epstein had with all of these people,” says Brown. “Epstein had a whole group of people helping him to [carry out these crimes].” “[Epstein] did not do this alone,” she says. “There were plenty of people that either knew about what Epstein was doing, or even participated in what he was doing. This was an international sex trafficking organization that was similar to an organized crime family — so it shouldn’t just end just with the prosecution of [Ghislaine Maxwell].” Fernando and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,235 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Truth Social is not taking Trump's Epstein post well Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,235 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 2024 Nobel Prize Laureate Geoffrey Hinton, The 'Godfather of AI': I Tried to Warn Them, But We've Already Lost Control He pioneered AI, now he’s warning the world. Godfather of AI Geoffrey Hinton breaks his silence on the deadly dangers of AI no one is prepared for. Geoffrey Hinton is a leading computer scientist and cognitive psychologist, widely recognised as the ‘Godfather of AI’ for his pioneering work on neural networks and deep learning. He received the 2018 Turing Award, often called the Nobel Prize of computing. In 2023, he left Google to warn people about the rising dangers of AI. He explains: ◽️ Why there’s a real 20% chance AI could lead to HUMAN EXTINCTION. ◽️ How speaking out about AI got him SILENCED. ◽️ The deep REGRET he feels for helping create AI. ◽️ The 6 DEADLY THREATS AI poses to humanity right now. ◽️ AI’s potential to advance healthcare, boost productivity, and transform education. — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:11 Why Do They Call You the Godfather of AI? 04:20 Warning About the Dangers of AI 07:06 Concerns We Should Have About AI 10:33 European AI Regulations 12:12 Cyber Attack Risk 14:25 How to Protect Yourself From Cyber Attacks 16:12 Using AI to Create Viruses 17:26 AI and Corrupt Elections 19:03 How AI Creates Echo Chambers 22:48 Regulating New Technologies 24:31 Are Regulations Holding Us Back From Competing With China? 25:57 The Threat of Lethal Autonomous Weapons 28:33 Can These AI Threats Combine? 30:15 Restricting AI From Taking Over 32:01 Reflecting on Your Life’s Work Amid AI Risks 33:45 Student Leaving OpenAI Over Safety Concerns 37:49 Are You Hopeful About the Future of AI? 39:51 The Threat of AI-Induced Joblessness 42:47 If Muscles and Intelligence Are Replaced, What’s Left? 44:38 Ads 46:42 Difference Between Current AI and Superintelligence 52:37 Coming to Terms With AI’s Capabilities 54:29 How AI May Widen the Wealth Inequality Gap 56:18 Why Is AI Superior to Humans? 59:01 AI’s Potential to Know More Than Humans 1:00:49 Can AI Replicate Human Uniqueness? 1:03:57 Will Machines Have Feelings? 1:11:12 Working at Google 1:14:55 Why Did You Leave Google? 1:16:20 Ads 1:18:15 What Should People Be Doing About AI? 1:19:36 Impressive Family Background 1:21:13 Advice You’d Give Looking Back 1:22:27 Final Message on AI Safety 1:25:48 What’s the Biggest Threat to Human Happiness? Geoffrey Hinton, Nobel Prize in Physics 2024: Official interview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,235 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 The great EV pullback has begun Automakers are canceling or delaying new electric models amid political whiplash after the signing of Trump’s EV-tax-break-killing budget bill. https://www.theverge.com/electric-cars/700767/ev-cancel-delay-tax-credit-nissan-honda-tesla Electric vehicles are at a crossroads. Sales are still going up, but many automakers are canceling or delaying new models, worried by recent policy moves that will make EVs more expensive to own. Every day seems to bring fresh news of a delayed EV or a timeline that’s been pushed back, as automakers struggle to adapt to this newly volatile environment. President Donald Trump’s tariffs aren’t helping much, nor is the recent passage of his $3.4 trillion “big, beautiful” budget bill, which takes a sledgehammer to most EV incentive programs. And Trump’s decision to reverse tougher emissions rules passed under former President Joe Biden is just icing on a pretty unappetizing cake. Expect a big push by car dealers to sell EVs before the $7,500 tax credit ends in September. But after that, the future looks dicey. Many car companies are still assessing the damage, but delaying future models seems like the most popular move right now. “Automakers that delayed launches over the last few years might have benefited from monitoring the market; however, today’s escalating challenges could be deemed insurmountable, likely resulting in more outright cancellations if the models lack a future abroad,” says Ivan Drury, director of insights at Edmunds. To be sure, EVs are absolutely here to stay. As many surveys have found, once you go EV, you’re less likely to ever go back to internal combustion engines. Drury notes that nearly half the time (45 percent) an EV is utilized as a trade-in at a dealership for a new vehicle, the purchase is for another EV. But in the interest of clarity, let’s do a run down of all the models’ uncertain futures. Ferrari Ferrari pushed back plans to launch its second fully electric vehicle, according to a report from Reuters, with an anonymous source noting that there is “zero” demand for high-performance electric cars right now. Ford The Blue Oval had the foresight to cancel its three-row electric SUV before Trump’s win in the US presidential election last November. Instead, Ford is banking on a future lineup of inexpensive EVs that are under development by its skunkworks team in Silicon Valley. In the meantime, Ford expects to release a bunch of new gas and hybrid-powered three-row SUVs. Honda The Japanese automaker has reportedly canceled plans for a large electric SUV. It was supposed to launch in 2027, but according to a report from Nikkei Asia, Honda has halted development on the model and slashed how much it plans to spend on EVs through 2030. This comes two years after Honda canceled its plan with GM to jointly release a new lineup of cheaper EVs. Honda says it still plans on releasing its Honda Zero models in the US next year. Lamborghini The ultra-luxury sports carmaker is considering postponing its first EV, the production version of the Lanzador concept from 2023, citing cooling market conditions. Lamborghini is also delaying its plans for an all-electric Urus. Instead, it plans to release a performance version of its plug-in hybrid crossover. Nissan Nissan is cutting production plans for its refreshed Leaf EV and is delaying two EVs that were scheduled to be built at its Canton, Mississippi, plant. According to an internal memo, Nissan is delaying production of the Leaf by about 10 months, citing slowing US demand as a result of the Trump administration’s decision to cut EV tax credits. Other projects to watch Image: Rivian Rivian, which just received another $1 billion from its joint venture with Volkswagen, says it’s still going ahead with its plan to release the R2 in 2026. But there’s no word on when the buzzy R3 hatchback will go into production. 2026 is the same year that Slate Auto is expected to begin delivering its barebones electric truck, which was supposed to cost “under $20,000” thanks to EV incentives. Now that those tax breaks are gone, Slate has scrubbed the price promotion from its website, replacing it with an expected price in the “mid-twenties.” I’m also nervously watching Volkswagen’s lineup of affordable EVs, which right now go by the model names ID.EVERY1 (priced at €20,000, or about $23,380) and ID.2all (€25,000, or about $29,225). The company is finally seeing some success with its EVs, with global sales surging about 50 percent in the first half of 2025 year over year. But Volkswagen is struggling to sell its ID.Buzz electric van in the US, which could ultimately dissuade it from bringing its cheaper models to North America. And there’s also no official word about Tesla’s supposed affordable EV. Tesla, which is on track to sell less EVs this year (and for the second consecutive year), hasn’t said when the new model will be released. It’s expected to be a cheaper version of the Model Y. Meanwhile, China’s EV market continues to grow. Morgan Stanley recently estimated that China’s battery-electric market is seven times larger than the US, with the lead widening every year. Drury says those hoping for an all-EV future may want to temper their expectations. “While EV supporters may be hoping for a replacement ratio closer to one-to-one, it’s worth considering that EV tech has a long runway of advancement for future generations,” he says, “even if that future is delayed.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fulham Broadway 17,335 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 ''Tens of thousands of videos'' of rich people doing horrible things to young girls Epstein tapes is exploding Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 22 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said: ''Tens of thousands of videos'' of rich people doing horrible things to young girls Epstein tapes is exploding Again with the buying the truth when it's your convenience. At times we don't believe Joe Rogan because he is lunatic right wing. But now we are going to listen to him. Either it's all true or non is true. Can't choose and pick what you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,335 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, Fernando said: Again with the buying the truth when it's your convenience. At times we don't believe Joe Rogan because he is lunatic right wing. But now we are going to listen to him. Either it's all true or non is true. Can't choose and pick what you like. Nothing to with Rogan hes just the conduit. Its the FBI and Pam Bondi - ''thousands of hours of tapes'' to '' there are none'' Just the same as ''Iran has no nuclear capability'' to '' they will make a weapon in two weeks'' (which Nutanyahu said first in 2002 They lie, and lie and lie and lie... Fucking joke mate the whole thing. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said: Nothing to with Rogan hes just the conduit. Its the FBI and Pam Bondi - ''thousands of hours of tapes'' to '' there are none'' Just the same as ''Iran has no nuclear capability'' to '' they will make a weapon in two weeks'' (which Nutanyahu said first in 2002 They lie, and lie and lie and lie... Fucking joke mate the whole thing. But your buying the suppose lies from suppose dubious source. If you believe what he is saying now then you got to believe his past shows..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,335 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 14 minutes ago, Fernando said: But your buying the suppose lies from suppose dubious source. If you believe what he is saying now then you got to believe his past shows..... Done a media check for you There are 126 'sources' saying the same. Bondi has done a U turn as has the FBI. Even your beloved Fox News says so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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