Politics & Stuff

[YorkshireBlue 3,175]

You should think about banning politics talk in a football forum, has nothing to do with football and at best just makes people dislike each other over views no one in a football forum should be discussing.

[robsblubot 3,595]

  On 25/07/2024 at 16:36, YorkshireBlue said:

You should think about banning politics talk in a football forum, has nothing to do with football and at best just makes people dislike each other over views no one in a football forum should be discussing.

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We are way beyond all that; we are now into whether sex is good, bad, or just a mass delusion. 😆

[cosmicway 1,333]

  On 25/07/2024 at 16:25, Fulham Broadway said:

So if your mother/daughter or sister had been raped you'd be happy with that drivel as the lawyers defence ?

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No, but you see things come and go.
You know that in mother Russia the Bolshoi ballet was considered as a sex show.
The party members were going there to see legs, not the swan lake.

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,091]

  On 25/07/2024 at 20:35, cosmicway said:

No, but you see things come and go.
You know that in mother Russia the Bolshoi ballet was considered as a sex show.
The party members were going there to see legs, not the swan lake.

 

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Do we know this or more conjecture ? Any evidence ?

Its hardly a coherent response to @Vesper assertion that Trump is an adjudicated rapist. I mean there are strawman arguments, then there are off the wall deflections that are totally irrelevant

[Fulham Broadway 17,091]

Makes Biden seem lucid...

Former President Donald Trump said Thursday he hopes the U.S. "obliterates Iran" in a post quoting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

Trump suggested Iran's approximately 88.55 million citizens should die if an Iranian plot to assassinate him — first revealed to the public earlier this month and denied by Irani officials — prove successful.

Grade A mentalist

[cosmicway 1,333]

  On 25/07/2024 at 20:46, Fulham Broadway said:

Do we know this or more conjecture ? Any evidence ?

Its hardly a coherent response to @Vesper assertion that Trump is an adjudicated rapist. I mean there are strawman arguments, then there are off the wall deflections that are totally irrelevant

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You see that America is divided right down the middle over abortion.
Whilst I don't agree with abortions except on medical grounds, everybody knows that unwanted pregnancies can be avoided with a variety of simple methods:
Condoms, pill, the Roman catholic method, abstinence .., 
So this proves what then ?
They are all into quickies, back of the envelope stuff.
Otherwise it just could n't become an issue.
In mother Russia they were never doing these things.

Edited July 26, 2024 by cosmicway

[Vesper 29,406]

  On 26/07/2024 at 02:18, cosmicway said:

You see that America is divided right down the middle over abortion.

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NO,

it is not at all, that is simply not true.

Abortion rights referendums have passed every time they have been on the ballot, EVEN IN RED STATES, post Roe being overturned by Dobbs.

 

Broad Public Support for Legal Abortion Persists 2 Years After Dobbs

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/05/13/broad-public-support-for-legal-abortion-persists-2-years-after-dobbs/

[Vesper 29,406]

[Vesper 29,406]

Clip of JD Vance Arguing Childless People Shouldn’t Have ‘Same Voice’ as Parents Goes Viral

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mediaite.com/politics/watch-clip-of-jd-vance-arguing-non-parents-shouldnt-have-same-voice-as-parents-in-u-s-democracy-goes-viral/amp/

In the week since officially becoming the GOP’s nominee for vice president this November, JD Vance’s critics have been resurfacing old videos of him making controversial statements.

From appearances on Fox News blasting “childless cat ladies” to comments about whether or not childless Americans should have the same say in democracy as Americans with children, various clips of Vance’s past comments have gone viral since Donald Trump chose him as his running mate.

On Thursday, the Kamala Harris campaign resurfaced a video from September 2021 of Vance at the conservative Intercollegiate Studies Institute. In the clip, Vance says:

When you go to the polls in this country, as a parent, you should have more power. You should have more of an ability to speak your voice in our democratic republic than people who don’t have kids. Let’s face the consequences and the reality. If you don’t have as much of an investment in the future of this country, maybe you shouldn’t get nearly the same voice. Now people will say, and I’m sure The Atlantic and the Washington Post and all the usual suspects will criticize me about this in the coming days. Well, doesn’t this mean that non-parents don’t have as much of a voice as parents? Doesn’t this mean that parents get a bigger say in how our democracy functions? Yes, absolutely.

 

The Washington Post did indeed cover the comments, as Patrick Marley outlined on Thursday exactly what the now Republican senator from Ohio was proposing, “A year before JD Vance was elected to the Senate, he advocated for a novel way to enhance the political strength of families — by giving parents the ability to cast tens of millions of additional votes on behalf of their children.”

Marley added that Vance’s plan “would almost surely face legal challenges, experts in election law said. It would also create logistical hurdles. Election officials would need to track which voters were eligible to cast multiple ballots and regularly update their voter rolls to account for moves, divorces, and court decisions in child custody cases.”

The clip shared by the Harris campaign on X had racked up almost 3 million views in its first seven hours.

 

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,091]

  On 26/07/2024 at 04:21, Vesper said:

Clip of JD Vance Arguing Childless People Shouldn’t Have ‘Same Voice’ as Parents Goes Viral

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mediaite.com/politics/watch-clip-of-jd-vance-arguing-non-parents-shouldnt-have-same-voice-as-parents-in-u-s-democracy-goes-viral/amp/

In the week since officially becoming the GOP’s nominee for vice president this November, JD Vance’s critics have been resurfacing old videos of him making controversial statements.

From appearances on Fox News blasting “childless cat ladies” to comments about whether or not childless Americans should have the same say in democracy as Americans with children, various clips of Vance’s past comments have gone viral since Donald Trump chose him as his running mate.

On Thursday, the Kamala Harris campaign resurfaced a video from September 2021 of Vance at the conservative Intercollegiate Studies Institute. In the clip, Vance says:

When you go to the polls in this country, as a parent, you should have more power. You should have more of an ability to speak your voice in our democratic republic than people who don’t have kids. Let’s face the consequences and the reality. If you don’t have as much of an investment in the future of this country, maybe you shouldn’t get nearly the same voice. Now people will say, and I’m sure The Atlantic and the Washington Post and all the usual suspects will criticize me about this in the coming days. Well, doesn’t this mean that non-parents don’t have as much of a voice as parents? Doesn’t this mean that parents get a bigger say in how our democracy functions? Yes, absolutely.

 

The Washington Post did indeed cover the comments, as Patrick Marley outlined on Thursday exactly what the now Republican senator from Ohio was proposing, “A year before JD Vance was elected to the Senate, he advocated for a novel way to enhance the political strength of families — by giving parents the ability to cast tens of millions of additional votes on behalf of their children.”

Marley added that Vance’s plan “would almost surely face legal challenges, experts in election law said. It would also create logistical hurdles. Election officials would need to track which voters were eligible to cast multiple ballots and regularly update their voter rolls to account for moves, divorces, and court decisions in child custody cases.”

The clip shared by the Harris campaign on X had racked up almost 3 million views in its first seven hours.

 

 

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Disgusting -so many reasons why people decide not to have children.

Trump and Vance - right there a prima facie case for abortion

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[YorkshireBlue 3,175]

Can I just say, after the Manchester airport situation, the police should be taken off suspension and given a fucking medal, the absolute check of the media only releasing half the footage is a fucking disgrace and a blatant agenda.

[Fulham Broadway 17,091]

  On 28/07/2024 at 12:56, YorkshireBlue said:

Can I just say, after the Manchester airport situation, the police should be taken off suspension and given a fucking medal, the absolute check of the media only releasing half the footage is a fucking disgrace and a blatant agenda.

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To be fair it wasnt the media witholding half the footage it has only just been shown from someone elses phone. One officer is pepper-spraying bystanders who are filming the incident.

[YorkshireBlue 3,175]

  On 28/07/2024 at 15:33, Fulham Broadway said:

To be fair it wasnt the media witholding half the footage it has only just been shown from someone elses phone. One officer is pepper-spraying bystanders who are filming the incident.

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I've seen the CCTV footage, it's disgusting, then have the cheek to file a lawsuit, have a word, he's lucky he only got a kick to the head and not a bullet in it

Edited July 28, 2024 by YorkshireBlue

[Fulham Broadway 17,091]

  On 28/07/2024 at 15:46, YorkshireBlue said:

I've seen the CCTV footage, it's disgusting, then have the cheek to file a lawsuit, have a word, he's lucky he only got a kick to the head and not a bullet in it

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The airport cops are armed, my uncle was one, and he was trained over terror incidents similar to the Manc debarclea. That kiddie -was very lucky he wasnt shot 

[Wise Old Man 38]

  On 28/07/2024 at 16:12, Fulham Broadway said:

The airport cops are armed, my uncle was one, and he was trained over terror incidents similar to the Manc debarclea. That kiddie -was very lucky he wasnt shot 

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Would have been lights out in many other countries