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[Vesper 30,090]

Grumpy Trumpy Felon from Jamaica in Queens! - A Randy Rainbow Song Parody

 

[Fernando 6,585]

On 01/06/2023 at 15:07, Vesper said:

your points are RW agitprop

and it is FAR from just Trump's mouth

also

what bad policy errors has Biden made?

1. Open Borders policy

2. Canceling Keystone XL & return to energy dependency

3. Surrendering Afghanistan

4. Vax Mandates & authoritarian COVID Policy

5. Woke policy in military

6. Political targeting & weaponization of DOJ

7. Crime surge. Punishing citizens, rewarding criminals.

8. Wild spending on Green New Deal Nonsense & other payoffs to Democrat donors, lobbyists and voters. 

9. Illegal war in Ukraine. Depleting our munitions and subsidizing corruption

10. Selling his office for profit. 

[Vesper 30,090]

2 hours ago, Fernando said:

1. Open Borders policy

2. Canceling Keystone XL & return to energy dependency

3. Surrendering Afghanistan

4. Vax Mandates & authoritarian COVID Policy

5. Woke policy in military

6. Political targeting & weaponization of DOJ

7. Crime surge. Punishing citizens, rewarding criminals.

8. Wild spending on Green New Deal Nonsense & other payoffs to Democrat donors, lobbyists and voters. 

9. Illegal war in Ukraine. Depleting our munitions and subsidizing corruption

10. Selling his office for profit. 

that is all RW bullshit lies and false framings

delusional

let's crush them one at time

 

1. Open Borders policy (there is no 'open borders' policy, that is simply false, laughable in its simplistic attempt to gaslight)

2. Canceling Keystone XL & return to energy dependency (Keystone was an environmental disaster waiting to happen on a multiplicity of levels) energy dependency? The US produces enough petrol, tec etc to fully supply it, BUT Big oil, coal, etc would rather export it for rapacious profiteering.

3. Surrendering Afghanistan (LOL, TRUMP was the one who stupidly signed the deal and set the date thus allowing the Taliban to prepare), not Biden, and it was amazing that Biden pulled out tens of thousands of civilians and military with only one true incident)

4. Vax Mandates & authoritarian COVID Policy (there was no federal across the board vax mandate, that is another lie, now go back to eating your horse paste you numpty CT stooge) Oh, and explain the 700,000 excess US  Covid deaths that occurred from January 2020 onwards, in good part due to Trump and so many other RWers gaslighting and death cult behaviours.

5. Woke policy in military (woke? LOLOL, fuck off, what you and your ilk mean by 'woke' is simple basic human respect of anatomy. You RWers scream about government overreach and then try to ram big gubmint into our bedrooms and into our bodies and reproductive choices.  As a lesbian and a person of colour, I say you can stick your 'anti-woke' up yer arse m8.)

6. Political targeting & weaponization of DOJ (LOLOLOL, Trump literally commanded the DOJ to interfere (Bill Barr, Trump's Attorney General says hello) in his impeachments, and also to try and help do a fucking coup d'etat, he repeatedly tried to get the IRS to audit his political enemies, same as his progenitor in crime, Nixon, did. Trump's very first legal mentor was the insanely thuggish and corrupt Joe McCarthy and Nixon bro, Roy Cohn)

7. Crime surge. Punishing citizens, rewarding criminals. (almost of of the top States in terms of violence and gun murders are red, Republican controlled ones,- Punishing what citizens? are you whingeing about the traitorous January 6 vermin insurrectionists? You know, the traitors that TRUMP has vowed to pardon. should the cunt ever become POTUS again.)

8. Wild spending on Green New Deal Nonsense & other payoffs to Democrat donors, lobbyists and voters. (Trump rang up far more debt in his four years than Biden has, especially due to his trillions in tax cuts for the top 0.1%. Also, Pro tip: The Green New Deal never remotely came close to passing. You really are ignorant of US legislation. all you have is your delusional. fact-free RW talking points. I wager there is a good chance you think anthropogenic climate change is a hoax.)

9. Illegal war in Ukraine. Depleting our munitions and subsidizing corruption (Illegal war in Ukraine?!? How stupid can you be? RUSSIA illegally invaded Ukraine. THAT is the illegal war. The US and NATO have never directly went in and fought the Russians face to face. You sound like a Putin stooge, who would just sit on your haunches whilst Putin tries to semi recreate the Old Warsaw Pact/Soviet Union as much as possible by gobbling up vast chunks of Europe. As for MIC (military industrial complex) corruption, the Republicans have used their power FAR more often than the Dems (the Dems, of course are also guilty, but nothing remotely to the level of the Republicans) for decades to steal trillions.

10. Selling his office for profit.  (amongst the most blatant of the lies, Biden has not used the POTUS to profiteer (prove it, come on big talker, do it), unlike Trump who ripped off the US taxpayers for thens  (likely hundreds) of millions of US dollars with assorted grafts and grifts ( just one example: forcing the US Secret Service and other US Government agencies to pay TRUMP'S own properties and firms millions upon millions of USD in inflated rates for the full 4 years of his term). As for family grifting, let's discuss the Saudis giving Trump's' son-in-law Jared Kushner 2 BILLION usd to play with in his personal investment firm, a firm that has often had ruinous results (see 666 Fifth Ave in NYC for example). Let's discuss the tens of millions in tax fraud and graft that the state of NY convicted (and shut down) the Trump Foundation of, along with the scam Trump University.)

 

you spew nothing but RW bullshit

Edited June 8, 2023 by Vesper

[Fernando 6,585]

3 hours ago, Vesper said:

that is all RW bullshit lies and false framings

delusional

let's crush them one at time

 

1. Open Borders policy (there is no 'open borders' policy, that is simply false, laughable in its simplistic attempt to gaslight)

2. Canceling Keystone XL & return to energy dependency (Keystone was an environmental disaster waiting to happen on a multiplicity of levels) energy dependency? The US produces enough petrol, tec etc to fully supply it, BUT Big oil, coal, etc would rather export it for rapacious profiteering.

3. Surrendering Afghanistan (LOL, TRUMP was the one who stupidly signed the deal and set the date thus allowing the Taliban to prepare), not Biden, and it was amazing that Biden pulled out tens of thousands of civilians and military with only one true incident)

4. Vax Mandates & authoritarian COVID Policy (there was no federal across the board vax mandate, that is another lie, now go back to eating your horse paste you numpty CT stooge) Oh, and explain the 700,000 excess US  Covid deaths that occurred from January 2020 onwards, in good part due to Trump and so many other RWers gaslighting and death cult behaviours.

5. Woke policy in military (woke? LOLOL, fuck off, what you and your ilk mean by 'woke' is simple basic human respect of anatomy. You RWers scream about government overreach and then try to ram big gubmint into our bedrooms and into our bodies and reproductive choices.  As a lesbian and a person of colour, I say you can stick your 'anti-woke' up yer arse m8.)

6. Political targeting & weaponization of DOJ (LOLOLOL, Trump literally commanded the DOJ to interfere (Bill Barr, Trump's Attorney General says hello) in his impeachments, and also to try and help do a fucking coup d'etat, he repeatedly tried to get the IRS to audit his political enemies, same as his progenitor in crime, Nixon, did. Trump's very first legal mentor was the insanely thuggish and corrupt Joe McCarthy and Nixon bro, Roy Cohn)

7. Crime surge. Punishing citizens, rewarding criminals. (almost of of the top States in terms of violence and gun murders are red, Republican controlled ones,- Punishing what citizens? are you whingeing about the traitorous January 6 vermin insurrectionists? You know, the traitors that TRUMP has vowed to pardon. should the cunt ever become POTUS again.)

8. Wild spending on Green New Deal Nonsense & other payoffs to Democrat donors, lobbyists and voters. (Trump rang up far more debt in his four years than Biden has, especially due to his trillions in tax cuts for the top 0.1%. Also, Pro tip: The Green New Deal never remotely came close to passing. You really are ignorant of US legislation. all you have is your delusional. fact-free RW talking points. I wager there is a good chance you think anthropogenic climate change is a hoax.)

9. Illegal war in Ukraine. Depleting our munitions and subsidizing corruption (Illegal war in Ukraine?!? How stupid can you be? RUSSIA illegally invaded Ukraine. THAT is the illegal war. The US and NATO have never directly went in and fought the Russians face to face. You sound like a Putin stooge, who would just sit on your haunches whilst Putin tries to semi recreate the Old Warsaw Pact/Soviet Union as much as possible by gobbling up vast chunks of Europe. As for MIC (military industrial complex) corruption, the Republicans have used their power FAR more often than the Dems (the Dems, of course are also guilty, but nothing remotely to the level of the Republicans) for decades to steal trillions.

10. Selling his office for profit.  (amongst the most blatant of the lies, Biden has not used the POTUS to profiteer (prove it, come on big talker, do it), unlike Trump who ripped off the US taxpayers for thens  (likely hundreds) of millions of US dollars with assorted grafts and grifts ( just one example: forcing the US Secret Service and other US Government agencies to pay TRUMP'S own properties and firms millions upon millions of USD in inflated rates for the full 4 years of his term). As for family grifting, let's discuss the Saudis giving Trump's' son-in-law Jared Kushner 2 BILLION usd to play with in his personal investment firm, a firm that has often had ruinous results (see 666 Fifth Ave in NYC for example). Let's discuss the tens of millions in tax fraud and graft that the state of NY convicted (and shut down) the Trump Foundation of, along with the scam Trump University.)

 

you spew nothing but RW bullshit

1 and 2 won't comment,  we will agree to disagree on that one. 

on 3. President Trump had a power sharing agreement with the Taliban and many conditions had to be met. Biden just surrendered and left. He incompetently went against the military recommendation to keep the Bagrum airbase open to aid in the evacuation of us citizens and personnel.

On the other as well we will agree to disagree. 

But on 9. Russia was emboldened by Afghanistan and likely never would have invaded Ukraine under Trump. We know this because they didn't! Russia was aggressive under Bush, Obama & Biden, but sat out the Trump presidency. Congress has not voted to authorize US support for Ukraine in their border dispute with Russia. Most people don't realize that it was actually Ukraine who was the aggressor. Saint Zelenskyy was attacking Russians in the border territories of Donetsk and Luhansk. Putin was defending Russians in that territory. While I don't agree with Putin's decesion to invade Ukraine in response, I think it's important for the full context to be widely reported, which it's not. And the USA has no business courting a traditionally Russian territory and neighbor to join NATO.

[YorkshireBlue 3,264]

Left wing, right wing, when will you politics lovers realise every single government on the planet is currupt as fuck. It really doesn't matter who's in charge the end results are always the same, WE the little worker antz get trodden on time and time again, debate it all you want, every single politician in the world is massive cunt. 

[Vesper 30,090]

1 hour ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Left wing, right wing, when will you politics lovers realise every single government on the planet is currupt as fuck. It really doesn't matter who's in charge the end results are always the same, WE the little worker antz get trodden on time and time again, debate it all you want, every single politician in the world is massive cunt. 

lol if you think Biden and the US Dems are left wing

the  yanks have a two party system by Constitutional design default

they have no proportional representation, and use a first past the post majoritarian single member district construct

the centrist to centre right Democrats, who are corporatists and Blairite/Clintonian 3rd way neoliberals for the vast part

and a now batshit crazy chistofash, white nationalist troglodytic Republican party that revels in ignorance, hatred and violence, all whilst utter shilling out for the oligarchs

[YorkshireBlue 3,264]

13 minutes ago, Vesper said:

lol if you think Biden and the US Dems are left wing

the  yanks have a two party system by Constitutional design default

they have no proportional representation, and use a first past the post majoritarian single member district construct

the centrist to centre right Democrats, who are corporatists and Blairite/Clintonian 3rd way neoliberals for the vast part

and a now batshit crazy chistofash, white nationalist troglodytic Republican party that revels in ignorance, hatred and violence, all whilst utter shilling out for the oligarchs

I honestly couldn't care less, it's one big currupt vile system, fuck the lot of them 

[lucio 5,418]

The are all the same. All pedos with contempt for the common person. Not one of them deserves power or even deserves to live. Nothing will change until these parasites start fearing for their  lives (on minecraft) 

[cosmicway 1,333]

14 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Left wing, right wing, when will you politics lovers realise every single government on the planet is currupt as fuck. It really doesn't matter who's in charge the end results are always the same, WE the little worker antz get trodden on time and time again, debate it all you want, every single politician in the world is massive cunt. 

Stands to reason.
If I want to pay a visit to a government minister it is not impossible to gain access, but what do I carry with me ?
Six cokes and six eggs from the supermarket in Xenophon street nearby.
Now if it is Rupert Murdoch it's going to be two or three suitcases wiv green stuff.
The pattern repeats itself.
In 1989 there was the big scandal with a Greek government minister found to have received a bribe of some 50 million today's euros in a Swiss bank.
The man was put to trial but he died in the middle of the proceedings from a stroke.
We thought, well that's it, who will dare do it again ? Ok maybe for 50 thousand.
But from 1989 to this day there were about ten similar cases ...

It's like this.
You and I go to Canada to fix a corrupt arms deal.
Ten years later we have spent all our ill gotten gains in horses, women, booze.
Then I call you on the phone and this conversation takes place:

"hey mate, remember that Nancy in Canada ?"

"Nancy who ?" you say

"the blonde one at the conference with the grey mini skirt"

"oh yeah" you say

"well, the Canadians have caught her for embezzlement and they have her in the dungeons now with the cat of nine tails - she 's going to spill the beans"

You get panicky, we both pack our suitcases and are off to Brazil.
But while this happens once in a while no one gives it serious consideration, so life goes on as usual.

Yet the same happened when we had absolute monarchies - Louis XVI.
The Frenchie nobles had no problem cheating Louis XVI.






 

Edited June 9, 2023 by cosmicway

[YorkshireBlue 3,264]

14 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Stands to reason.
If I want to pay a visit to a government minister it is not impossible to gain access, but what do I carry with me ?
Six cokes and six eggs from the supermarket in Xenophon street nearby.
Now if it is Rupert Murdoch it's going to be two or three suitcases.
The pattern repeats itself.
In 1989 there was the big scandal with a Greek government minister found to have received a bribe of some 50 million today's euros in a Swiss bank.
The man was put to trial but he died in the middle of the proceedings from a stroke.
We thought, well that's it, who will dare do it again ? Ok maybe for 50 thousand.
But from 1989 to this day there were about ten similar cases ...

It's like this.
You and I go to Canada to fix a corrupt arms deal.
Ten years later we have spent all our ill gotten gains in horse, women, booze.
Then I call you on the phone and this conversation takes place:

"hey mate, remember that Nancy in Canada ?"

"Nancy who ?" you say

"the blonde one at the conference with the grey dress"

"oh yeah" you say

"well, the Canadians have caught her for embezzlement and they have her in the dungeons now with the cat of nine tails - she 's going to spill the beans"

You get panicky, we both pack are suitcases and are off to Brazil.
But while this happens once in a while no one gives it serious consideration, so life goes on as usual.

Yet the same happened when we had absolute monarchies - Louis XVI.
The Frenchie nobles had no problem cheating Louis XVI.






 

Sounds good, not a clue what your talking about, but sounds good.

[cosmicway 1,333]

Just now, YorkshireBlue said:

Sounds good, not a clue what your talking about, but sounds good.

Google it.

[Fulham Broadway 17,305]

If people really want change they need to look outside the illusion of choice -Tory/labour republican/democrat oligarch sponsored bi partisan coke/pepsi

The Labour Video Keir Starmer Doesn't Want You To See (doubledown.news)

[cosmicway 1,333]

8 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

If people really want change they need to look outside the illusion of choice -Tory/labour republican/democrat oligarch sponsored bi partisan coke/pepsi

The Labour Video Keir Starmer Doesn't Want You To See (doubledown.news)

The lefties are into it as well.
All my gf's who were lefty were much worse than those gf's who were Tory.
 

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,305]

13 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

The lefties are into it as well.
All my gf's who were lefty were much worse than those gf's who were Tory.
 

 

Well done.  So you were shagging Abba girls. 

The point is to think outside the adversarial left/right continuum which are both part of the establishment. imo

[cosmicway 1,333]

5 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Well done.  So you were shagging Abba girls. 

The point is to think outside the adversarial left/right continuum which are both part of the establishment. imo

I did n't say that.
I am a good orthodox - no sex.