Politics & Stuff

[cosmicway 1,333]

In the footy sites there it says click here to unmute.
Usually it's forget life if you click that. 
It opens a new window with some kind of webpage. I immediately close it.
Say once in a hundred those webpages are of some interest to me.
But they 're lost. I never see them.
What is the logic of that.

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IDF investigates claim Jewish Chronicle published stories based on ‘fabricated intelligence’

Israeli military launches inquiry into claims that stories may have been planted as part of disinformation campaign

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/12/idf-investigates-claim-jewish-chronicle-published-stories-based-on-fabricated-intelligence

The Israel Defense Forces have launched an investigation into claims in the Israeli media that the London-based Jewish Chronicle published stories based on “fabricated intelligence” relating to Hamas, amid claims that they may have been planted as part of a disinformation campaign.

Among the most controversial claims published by the Jewish Chronicle, the world’s oldest Jewish newspaper, was the suggestion last week that the Hamas leader in Gaza, Yahya Sinwar, might be preparing to flee to Iran with Israeli hostages, a suggestion that has also been made by Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.

The Jewish Chronicle article is one of several sensational reports that have been written in recent months by a writer bylined as Elon Perry, whose résumé claiming he has worked as a journalist, academic and served as an elite undercover soldier has also been questioned.

Checks by the Guardian have found no evidence of any record of significant stories published by Perry as a reporter in English or Hebrew, except for the recent series of articles in the Jewish Chronicle now alleged to be fabrications.

Perry’s articles for the paper in recent months have included what was claimed to be a detailed depiction of the killing of the Hamas politburo chief, Ismail Haniyeh, in Tehran, the veracity of which has now been questioned.

Screenshot of Elon Perry’s profile page on the the Jewish Chronicle website. Photograph: The Jewish Chronicle

 

Commenting on the claims on Thursday, the Jewish Chronicle, which still has the stories on its website, said in a statement: “The Jewish Chronicle is aware of allegations concerning a freelance journalist, which we take very seriously.

“The Jewish Chronicle is the oldest Jewish newspaper in the world and has always maintained the highest standards of reporting and integrity. An investigation is under way and there will be an update in due course.”

Most controversial was the story citing Israeli “intelligence sources” claiming that Sinwar, Hamas’s fugitive leader, intended to smuggle surviving hostages out of Gaza to Iran and accompany them, a story at first picked up by a number of Israeli outlets.

Asked about the claim, the IDF spokesperson Daniel Hagari said he was unaware of any intelligence that Sinwar planned to flee with the hostages.

The Jewish Chronicle’s report suggested that Netanyahu’s claim was based on the interrogation of a captured senior Hamas official as well as documents found at the same time as the discovery of the bodies of six Israeli hostages killed by Hamas in Gaza, claims denied by Israel officials.

Within days a number of publications including the Israeli outlets Haaretz and Yedioth Ahronoth, and the Israeli-Palestinian website +972 were quoting their own security sources suggesting that the claims – and previous stories by Perry – appeared to be made up.

Israeli reporters and commentators have also pointed to the fact that the story in the Jewish Chronicle appeared to put flesh on the bones of claims made by Netanyahu only a day earlier to justify Israeli troops remaining in the Philadelphi corridor on the border with Egypt. He told a press conference that a military withdrawal meant Israel would not be able to stop Hamas smuggling hostages out of Gaza. “They disappear in the Sinai and then they end up in Iran or in Yemen. They’re gone for ever,” he said.

That in turn has led some in Israel to suggest that the story – and others – may have been planted to influence the domestic debate in Israel around the hostage negotiations.

Prominent in questioning the Jewish Chronicle account has been Ronen Bergman, Israel’s best-known reporter covering intelligence and security. He was part of the New York Times’s Pulitzer prize-winning team for its coverage of the Hamas attack on Israel on 7 October last year.

Writing in Yedioth Ahronoth, Bergman said his own sources had described the Jewish Chronicle’s claims about Sinwar and the hostages as a “wild fabrication”.

Bergman also quoted a high-ranking IDF official in the hostages and missing persons department, who described a “malicious, vicious and diabolical” campaign to “disseminate to the international media documents that either are fabricated or which were severely distorted”.

The official was quoted as saying: “It doesn’t take a great deal of imagination to understand what a report like that does to the heart of every hostage’s father, mother and wife. That is downright abuse, and only supposedly to validate narrow and selfish political calculations.”

While it remains unclear who has been briefing the stories to the Jewish Chronicle, the row over the stories has also focused attention on Elon Perry.

He is described in his online biography for the paper as “a former commando soldier of the elite Golani Brigade of the Israel Defense Forces, which he served in for 28 years”.

He is also described as having been “a journalist for 25 years covering wars and terrorist attacks”, who since 2010 “has been lecturing in the UK and USA about the 100 years of terror in the Middle East”.

The Guardian has emailed Perry for comment.

However, when he was confronted this week in a recorded phone call by a journalist from the HaTzinor current affairs programme, Perry appeared to concede in an angry exchange that, contrary to his claims, he had never worked as a political science professor at Tel Aviv University, which had no record of him.

HaTzinor also said it had debunked his claim elsewhere to have participated in the Israeli hostage rescue mission to Entebbe in 1976, and questioned his assertion that he served in an elite undercover unit at a time when he would have been 58.

The Jewish Chronicle report was amplified on social media by Netanyahu’s son Yair, while several days after it first appeared Netanyahu’s wife repeated the claim that hostages could be taken to Iran, in a meeting with hostage relatives.

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wow

we have found a bottom for some of the MAGAts

shocked to see even the despicable, normally 'just fine with being a racist herself' Marjorie Taylor Greene go after 'Nazi-adjacent Jew' troll Laura Loomer

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/trump-ally-laura-loomer-says-neo-nazi-involvement-in-her-project-was-typo-report/ar-BB1kjSvq

MAGA social media activist Laura Loomer is working on a new far-right documentary — and she wants everyone to know that any indications she worked with a notorious neo-Nazi activist are just a misunderstanding.

According to Talking Points Memo, "Loomer, who has previously described herself as 'pro-white nationalism' and a 'proud Islamophobe,' is a Florida activist who mounted unsuccessful U.S. House campaigns as a Republican in 2020 and 2022. She’s also a staunch 'Trump loyalist' whose extremist views have not stopped the former president from repeatedly embracing her, including with an endorsement in 2020."

Her upcoming documentary, "The Great Replacement," is devoted to a conspiracy theory of the same name, which holds that there is a deliberate plot to import nonwhite people into America to breed the white population out of existence, or at least to render them a political minority.

That said, Loomer is Jewish, and she was apparently embarrassed as people realized that her project appeared to indicate involvement by Nick Fuentes, an avowed neo-Nazi who has praised Adolf Hitler and denied the Holocaust.

"A fundraising webpage for Loomer’s documentary initially indicated a foundation started by one of the country’s most notorious neo-Nazis, Nicholas Fuentes, was involved with the project. Fuentes’ group was scrubbed from the documentary web page following inquiries from TPM and both Loomer and the head of the documentary’s production company, 'Truth + Light Media' CEO Edward Szall, described the association with Fuentes as the result of an error," said the report. "'There must be some kind of a, like, a typo because Nick Fuentes is not involved in my film,' Loomer said when first reached by TPM on Thursday morning."

Fuentes, who headed up the online "Groyper" movement attempting to inject neo-Nazi ideology into the mainstream, entered the larger national consciousness when former President Donald Trump invited him, along with Hitler-praising rapper Kanye "Ye" West, to Mar-a-Lago for a dinner meeting.

 

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/25/us/politics/trump-nick-fuentes-dinner.html

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1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

Like it or not in schools they will teach about him in coming centuries...

But will it be in a good way or this is the car crash we just avoided/died in ?

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1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

Like it or not in schools they will teach about him in coming centuries...

Musk? The entrepreneur and business man? Unlikely even if some of his spaceX stuff lands (no pun).

The unelected world leader? Nope. There is nothing remarkable about that guy aside from his creepiness, which happens to be fairly common in social media.

[cosmicway 1,333]

In Greece the MAGA, brexit equivalents were dead for some 25-30 years.
We exclude the commies who of course wanted a Greek "brexit" after their own style.
Whatever remained was in the sphere of romance and the late king Constantine never accepted to have any relations with them, so the old junta fanciers died.

The circus started life again in 1999 when an Albanian student, Odysseus Cenai, was allowed to carry the Greek flag in a national parade as he was the top of the class.
From that moment they started again, now with a purely racist platform - nothing to do with either the communist danger or the trade unions.
Now the Mitsotakis party is the strongest among the political parties and the left are nowhere.
With Mitsotakis we have mean austerity measures again and he is losing some points. But all those points he is losing go to the extreme right who are well on their way to reach 20% all of them added together. No percentage points go to the debunked socialists or the left.
As for the commies they stand at 8%. Sometimes a bit higher because some leftists who think the left wing party of Syriza is not left wing enough make the journey back to the mother ship.
The only ones who are relatively happy now are the blackies.
 

 

Edited September 12, 2024 by cosmicway

[cosmicway 1,333]

Debate effect:

Trump 1.80, Harris 2.00

From 1.72-2.20.

 

 

Edited September 12, 2024 by cosmicway

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42 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Debate effect:

Trump 1.80, Harris 2.00

From 1.72-2.20.

 

 

More serious numbers only by next week, and still irrelevant given that they fight for a small sliver of people in the battleground states. 

"This is one of the tragic things about our political system, that they needed to convince a small sliver of the most checked-out voters in the states that actually matter. I mean, this is no way to run a democracy, but it is what it is." by Michelle Goldberg (NYT podcast)

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1 hour ago, cosmicway said:

Odysseus

SPEAK, MEMORY—

Of the cunning hero,
The wanderer, blown off course time and again
After he plundered Troy's sacred heights.

Speak

Of all the cities he saw, the minds he grasped,
The suffering deep in his heart at sea
As he struggled to survive and bring his men home
But could not save them, hard as he tried—
The fools—destroyed by their own recklessness
When they ate the oxen of Hyperion the Sun,
And that god snuffed out their day of return.

Of these things,

Speak, Immortal One,

And tell the tale once more in our time.

By now, all the others who had fought at Troy—
At least those who had survived the war and the sea—
Were safely back home. Only Odysseus
Still longed to return to his home and his wife.
The nymph Calypso, a powerful goddess—
And beautiful—was clinging to him
In her caverns and yearned to possess him.

 

[cosmicway 1,333]

33 minutes ago, Vesper said:

SPEAK, MEMORY—

Of the cunning hero,
The wanderer, blown off course time and again
After he plundered Troy's sacred heights.

Speak

Of all the cities he saw, the minds he grasped,
The suffering deep in his heart at sea
As he struggled to survive and bring his men home
But could not save them, hard as he tried—
The fools—destroyed by their own recklessness
When they ate the oxen of Hyperion the Sun,
And that god snuffed out their day of return.

Of these things,

Speak, Immortal One,

And tell the tale once more in our time.

By now, all the others who had fought at Troy—
At least those who had survived the war and the sea—
Were safely back home. Only Odysseus
Still longed to return to his home and his wife.
The nymph Calypso, a powerful goddess—
And beautiful—was clinging to him
In her caverns and yearned to possess him.

 

Cenai got a phd from MIT later. Maybe he is teaching there I think.

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[Vesper 30,224]

should get these for a x-mas prezzie for Cosmic

all the cool kids are wearing them

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

15 hours ago, cosmicway said:

The only ones who are relatively happy now are the blackies.
 

What ?

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

Elon Musk, owner of social media platform X, on Friday called Australia's centre-left government "fascists" over proposed legislation to slap fines on social media firms for failing to prevent the spread of misinformation online.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Elon Musk, owner of social media platform X, on Friday called Australia's centre-left government "fascists" over proposed legislation to slap fines on social media firms for failing to prevent the spread of misinformation online.

 

 

Like people with immigration concerns are called racist. Quite stupid isn’t it 

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1 hour ago, IMissEden said:

Like people with immigration concerns are called racist. Quite stupid isn’t it 

Whats that to do with slapping fines on Social Media liars ? 

[cosmicway 1,333]

2 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

What ?

Racist. But reds you use is also racist.

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9 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Racist. But reds you use is also racist.

Not sure what that sentence means -care to elaborate ?

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

Its like One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest here sometimes