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[Vesper 30,234]

James O'Brien: How Tories destroyed Britain

 

[Fernando 6,585]

I remember reading about a hospital bombing which Hamas accused Israel. 

Hamas Fails to Make Case That Israel Struck Hospital

A senior Hamas official says “nothing is left” of the munition that hit the Ahli Arab hospital in Gaza City last week, killing hundreds. Israel says the explosion was caused by a misfired Palestinian rocket.

Within an hour of the blast on Tuesday night, the Hamas-run Gazan health ministry accused Israel of attacking the Ahli Arab hospital, a medical center in Gaza City where scores of families had been sheltering. The allegation was soon denied by Israel but quickly accepted and amplified by Arab leaders across the Middle East, setting off unrest throughout the region. The claim was widely cited by international news outlets, including The New York Times, before Israel issued its denial.

 

But in the days since, as new evidence contradicting the Hamas claim has emerged, the Gazan authorities have changed their story about the blast. Spokespeople have released death tolls varying from 500 to 833, before settling on 471.

 

The Hamas-run health ministry has also declined to release further details about those 471 victims, and all traces of the munition have seemingly vanished from the site of the blast, making it impossible to assess its provenance. Raising further questions about Hamas’s claims, the impact site turned out to be the hospital parking lot, and not the hospital itself.

On Sunday, Hamas turned down requests by The Times to view any available evidence of the munition it said had struck the hospital, claiming that it had disintegrated beyond recognition.

“The missile has dissolved like salt in the water,” said Ghazi Hamad, a senior Hamas official, in a phone interview. “It’s vaporized. Nothing is left”

But to Israelis, the accusation that Israel hit the hospital is part of a grand deception aimed at undermining the legitimacy of Israel’s response to what officials say was the deadliest single attack on Jews since the Holocaust.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/22/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-hospital-evidence.html

 

 

As I have been saying for sometime we are being fed lies by the Hamas organization who let's not forget are terrorists. 

Now that is not to say that Israel are innocent, because in war ugly things happen. 

But this just another thing to be careful about every news that comes out of Hamas reports... 

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

I remember reading about a hospital bombing which Hamas accused Israel. 

Hamas Fails to Make Case That Israel Struck Hospital

A senior Hamas official says “nothing is left” of the munition that hit the Ahli Arab hospital in Gaza City last week, killing hundreds. Israel says the explosion was caused by a misfired Palestinian rocket.

Within an hour of the blast on Tuesday night, the Hamas-run Gazan health ministry accused Israel of attacking the Ahli Arab hospital, a medical center in Gaza City where scores of families had been sheltering. The allegation was soon denied by Israel but quickly accepted and amplified by Arab leaders across the Middle East, setting off unrest throughout the region. The claim was widely cited by international news outlets, including The New York Times, before Israel issued its denial.

 

But in the days since, as new evidence contradicting the Hamas claim has emerged, the Gazan authorities have changed their story about the blast. Spokespeople have released death tolls varying from 500 to 833, before settling on 471.

 

The Hamas-run health ministry has also declined to release further details about those 471 victims, and all traces of the munition have seemingly vanished from the site of the blast, making it impossible to assess its provenance. Raising further questions about Hamas’s claims, the impact site turned out to be the hospital parking lot, and not the hospital itself.

On Sunday, Hamas turned down requests by The Times to view any available evidence of the munition it said had struck the hospital, claiming that it had disintegrated beyond recognition.

“The missile has dissolved like salt in the water,” said Ghazi Hamad, a senior Hamas official, in a phone interview. “It’s vaporized. Nothing is left”

But to Israelis, the accusation that Israel hit the hospital is part of a grand deception aimed at undermining the legitimacy of Israel’s response to what officials say was the deadliest single attack on Jews since the Holocaust.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/22/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-hospital-evidence.html

 

 

As I have been saying for sometime we are being fed lies by the Hamas organization who let's not forget are terrorists. 

Now that is not to say that Israel are innocent, because in war ugly things happen. 

But this just another thing to be careful about every news that comes out of Hamas reports... 

To be fair there is no proof either way and the Israeli Terrorist State has so much previous history of lying endlessly

[cosmicway 1,333]

Preemtpive taxes against tax evasion

It's something that always intrigued me and I don't know the answer.
Do such taxes exist in the EU ? In the UK ? In Sweden of our friend Vesper ?

We do have them in Greece, on and off, off and on since 1993.
So if one is at the lowest end of the business -making kites for Clean Monday say in his backyard- he has to pay a sizeable amount every year to be legal.
This is supposed to be against tax evasion, something which happens for real of course and will exist as long as cash continues to exist.
But is this form of taxation applied anywhere else ?

Ideally I 'd like to be taxed for what I actually earn:
1000 quid - 15% say.
1,000,000 quid - please sir apply for membership of the chamber of industry
But it does n't work that way.


 

 

[Fernando 6,585]

6 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

To be fair there is no proof either way and the Israeli Terrorist State has so much previous history of lying endlessly

So who to believe? Both are lying? 

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

Just now, Fernando said:

So who to believe? Both are lying? 

Israel has destroyed 47 hospitals in Gaza either through blowing them up or depriving them all of medicines, food and water. They have murdered 11 078 mainly children, and under 18s with an estimated 3000 buried alive under rubble.

With the Ahli hospital both want to be believed - the only reality is ''the first casualty of conflict is truth''. Though the voice messages that Israeli intelligence released dont even have arab accents and have been proved to be fake.

[Fernando 6,585]

7 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Israel has destroyed 47 hospitals in Gaza either through blowing them up or depriving them all of medicines, food and water. They have murdered 11 078 mainly children, and under 18s with an estimated 3000 buried alive under rubble.

With the Ahli hospital both want to be believed - the only reality is ''the first casualty of conflict is truth''. Though the voice messages that Israeli intelligence released dont even have arab accents and have been proved to be fake.

And you got this info from Hamas that also lies? 

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

3 minutes ago, Fernando said:

And you got this info from Hamas that also lies? 

You can look it all up from multiple reputable news sources, (though probably not your Fox news)

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

6 minutes ago, Fernando said:

And you got this info from Hamas that also lies? 

''Speaking from Jerusalem to journalists in Geneva via Zoom, he explained that 47 out of 72 primary healthcare centres were no longer functioning and others were only partially functioning. Close to 75 per cent of hospitals (35 to 36) were no longer operational. “So there’s clearly not enough support for this endless need,” 

UNITED NATIONS Jerusalem 25th NOVEMBER 2023

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

12 minutes ago, Fernando said:

And you got this info from Hamas that also lies? 

Your own US government ''the Gaza Strip has suffered heavy civilian casualties from Israeli bombardment. Since the war began, 10,000 Palestinians (including 4,000 children) have been killed, 20,000 injured, and 1,600 missing are under rubble, totaling over 30,000 killed or injured''

[cosmicway 1,333]

It's war inside city that has not be declared undfended.
To be fair some such wars were what we call "on the right side of history", like Stalingrad, Alamo, Greek Messolonghion and others.
But it's inevitable.
Probably there will be five times more victims but you can blame only the terrorist Hamas.

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

A Greek talks sense

 

[cosmicway 1,333]

9 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

A Greek talks sense

 

Dismissed by his own party, out of parliament, national joke.

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

1 minute ago, cosmicway said:

Dismissed by his own party, out of parliament, national joke.

He speaks the truth and is not a genocidal apologist

[cosmicway 1,333]

Yanis (John) is Yannis in Greek.
Every John I know is a Yiannis.
That one has taken out the one n to show us how clever he is.

[cosmicway 1,333]

2 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

He speaks the truth and is not a genocidal apologist

Present the alternative for Israel after the 10/9.
The alternative for Britain after the blitz.
The alternative for Russia after the operation barbarossa.

Edited November 26, 2023 by cosmicway

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

2 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Present the alternative for Israel after the 10/9.
The alternative for Britain after the blitz.
The alternative for Russia after the operation barbarossa.

Present the alternative for Palestinians after 96% of deaths in the israel occupation are Palestinian deaths, 4% Israeli. That was before the holocaust on Gaza

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

11 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Dismissed by his own party, out of parliament, national joke.

Greatly respected by civilised people in Europe and the US and Australia

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 minute ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Present the alternative for Palestinians after 96% of deaths in the israel occupation are Palestinian deaths, 4% Israeli. That was before the holocaust on Gaza

They attack, under the orders of Hamas.

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 minute ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Greatly respected by civilised people in Europe and the US and Australia

The man is a wannabe vote catcher - a left wing incarnation of your Nigel Farage.
He is not a fool by any means but he likes to talk nonsense.
Like when he wanted to dismantle the Greek economy and make everyone eat raw corn.