Politics & Stuff

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

56 minutes ago, Fernando said:

But Palestinians aren't Hamas and the reason why this war is not finished is not because of them but because of Hamas. 

Why aren't Hamas Palestinians ? wtf of course they are. They are a resistance group - in fact it is an obligation of a population to resist and fight back when their territory has been internationally declared as Illegally Occupied. the Maquis during the occupation of France 1940-1944 not French ? Its terrible for Israel long term -international pariahs.

[Fernando 6,585]

3 hours ago, Vesper said:

Bibi allowed billions to flow into Hamas from Qatar and other sources in an effort to play divide et impera games with the PA in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza.

One of the reasons October 7th went down was becuase BiBi and the the thugs had concentrated most of the IDF's attention to supporting the illegal settlers and their violent illegal land grabs in the West Bank, PLUS the Israel military female 'watchers' of the Gaza border were ignored (as documents here long ago) when they reported a huge change in paramiltary behaviour inside Gaza.

This is just pure incompetence seems like to me. 

[Fernando 6,585]

2 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Why aren't Hamas Palestinians ? wtf of course they are. They are a resistance group - in fact it is an obligation of a population to resist and fight back when their territory has been internationally declared as Illegally Occupied. the Maquis during the occupation of France 1940-1944 not French ? Its terrible for Israel long term -international pariahs.

Hamas is terrorist organaztions that do far worse then anything Israel do. 

Palestinians are not them. 

[Vesper 30,083]

14 minutes ago, Fernando said:

This is just pure incompetence seems like to me. 

bollocks

it was a pure Machiavellian evil calculation

that motherfucking war crim (and regular crim) knew exactly what he was doing

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

9 hours ago, Fernando said:

Hamas is terrorist organaztions that do far worse then anything Israel do. 

Palestinians are not them. 

You keep telling yourself that. Reality is obviously alien here.

According to the Geneva Convention, (Remember the Geneva convention was partly accorded because of the atrocities committed in WW2) -''Palestinians who are members of armed resistance organizations should be entitled to prisoner of war status and not called terrorists.''

Was Mandela a 'terrorist' but not South African ? Were the jews resisting in the Warsaw Ghetto terrorists but not Jews? The nazis said they were, just as the Israelis do now in the Internationally declared Occupied Territory. 

As for Hamas doing worse - they dont target all infrastructure, destroy 87% of houses, starve the Israelis, torture them, murder 220 journalists, use children as target practice aiming for the genitals, one day, the head the next, the stomach the next  - boys and girls. More babies and children have had arms or legs blown off than in any other Occupation in history. The Palestinian resistance dont deliberately target and destroy all medical centres and hospitals. They dont deliberately target doctors and surgeons killing their families at the same time.

A quote from an IDF to B'tselem - an Israeli Human Rights group -''There was a boy, 6 or 7 years old, some soldiers said they saw him talking to other people. That was enough. They dropped a grenade on him from a quadcopter. In another incident a boy the same age was riding a bicycle, they blew him away for no reason''

You want to talk about 'hostages' ? There are 9500 Palestinians kept in cages, humiliated, diseased, dying daily -over 7000 have never had any trial or legal representation allowed.  According to B'tselem, Palestinians prisoners with Israeli citizenship have been stripped  of their rights. It further found that abuse of detainees is so institutionalized that the prisons should be called 'torture camps. Thats Israelis saying that. Palestinians imprisoned by Israel reached 650,000 in 2005, it is now close to 1 million. Of these, according B'tselem tens of thousands have been subjected to administrative detention. Administrative Detention is held with no trial potentially for the rest of their lives - many children, and mainly in solitary confinement. Just think about that. That is an Israeli Human Rights organisation saying that.

Mate you're not stupid, I suggest some critical thinking, source your information from at least 3 credible sources - and exclude the cess pit that is CBN as one of those credible sources.

[Fernando 6,585]

3 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

As for Hamas doing worse - they dont target all infrastructure, destroy 87% of houses, starve the Israelis, torture them, murder 220 journalists, use children as target practice aiming for the genitals, one day, the head the next, the stomach the next  - boys and girls. More babies and children have had arms or legs blown off than in any other Occupation in history. The Palestinian resistance dont deliberately target and destroy all medical centres and hospitals. They dont deliberately target doctors and surgeons killing their families at the same time.

Your clearly lying to yourself. 

And this is where your hatred for Israel shows up. 

Hamas has done worse and do worse. 

And no, Hamas is not Palestinians, two different categories. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

1 minute ago, Fernando said:

Your clearly lying to yourself. 

And this is where your hatred for Israel shows up. 

Hamas has done worse and do worse. 

And no, Hamas is not Palestinians, two different categories. 

What do they do worse ?

Can you provide cited evidence not from some faux Christian/Zionist lies ?

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

Netanyahu said to Clinton -''we have a sex tape of you and Lewinsky, but dont worry we destroyed it''

The only President not compromised by Israel was Kennedy - and he paid the price

 

[Fernando 6,585]

1 minute ago, Fulham Broadway said:

What do they do worse ?

Can you provide cited evidence not from some faux Christian/Zionist lies ?

But if I bring it you say it's Christian Zionists? 

So then why should I belive yours? 

I can say it's Israel hating news. 

But this is from NY times. 

 

What We Know About Sexual Violence During the Oct. 7 Attacks on Israel

Israel has accused Hamas of committing abuses against large numbers of women. Hamas denies the allegations.

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20231204200541/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/04/world/middleeast/oct-7-attacks-israel-hamas-sexual-violence.html

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

3 minutes ago, Fernando said:

But if I bring it you say it's Christian Zionists? 

So then why should I belive yours? 

I can say it's Israel hating news. 

But this is from NY times. 

 

What We Know About Sexual Violence During the Oct. 7 Attacks on Israel

Israel has accused Hamas of committing abuses against large numbers of women. Hamas denies the allegations.

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20231204200541/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/04/world/middleeast/oct-7-attacks-israel-hamas-sexual-violence.html

All that is from 2023. Archive. Just propaganda used for the Gaza land grab.

Multiple sources and evidence, also from Ha'aretz Isareli news,  has proved the '' babies in ovens, the alleged rapes, 40 beheaded babies'' was 100% utter bullshit. 

Most of the killing was done by Apache helicopters -again Ha'aeretz Israeli News reported this.

One baby was killed a bullet through a door. Israel has murdered 17 000 babies and children. Bit different dont you think ?

 

[Fernando 6,585]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

All that is from 2023. Archive. Just propaganda used for the Gaza land grab.

Multiple sources and evidence, also from Ha'aretz Isareli news,  has proved the '' babies in ovens, the alleged rapes, 40 beheaded babies'' was 100% utter bullshit. 

Most of the killing was done by Apache helicopters -again Ha'aeretz Israeli News reported this.

One baby was killed a bullet through a door. Israel has murdered 17 000 babies and children. Bit different dont you think ?

 

And I could say that is also propaganda against the hatred of Israel. 

Lately you keep bring up Ha'aerez Israeli news like if that is the mouthpiece of 100 percent accuracy. 

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

And I could say that is also propaganda against the hatred of Israel. 

Lately you keep bring up Ha'aerez Israeli news like if that is the mouthpiece of 100 percent accuracy. 

 

Well I am afraid you are wrong. Nothing against Israel or Jews I dont like bullies. Especially ones given 300bn dollars of high tech weaponry thinking they can kill all their neighbours

Lots of Evangelical and Rabbi weirdos think the holocaust on Gaza and attacks on Iran, Syria, Lebanon, and Yemen by the Chosen People is going to bring the Messiah down from heaven.

Do you believe that as well ?

If the Messiah comes down dont you think he would be really fucked off with all the killing of children ? Also if you deliberately ignore that will you be going to heaven ?