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On 21/02/2016 at 3:45 PM, MCM4PR3Z said:

:D:D:D

Of the 4 months he was fit, 3 times player of the month. His statistics are even better than at Wolfsburg. He plays there for half a season and he has never played at his best position.

No, you're right. He should never be in their starting team and most Man City fans feel that way. Glad you sorted that out bro :D.

:D:D:D

I said no such thing. I have reported, accurately, that there are Manchester City fans who do not believe that Kevin should be a part of their first choice XI. I have no idea whether he should, or should not be. I don't watch them much.

I can tell you that there seem to be two main criticisms City fans have about KDB. They complain that he gives the ball away too cheaply too often and that he is lazy in his defensive duties. They tend to acknowledge that he plays high risk/high reward passes and accept that the completion rate for such passes will inevitably be lower but they say it's what they see as Kevin's wastefulness with straightforward, possession, passes that lets the team down.

You can shoot the messenger again if you like but it won't change the message.

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On 21/02/2016 at 2:46 PM, Weckerz said:

Stop lying to try and make a point please, this drivel couldn't be further from the truth.

I wish you had shown more maturity in the way you responded. If you are looking to get a rise out of me you are going to be disappointed.

Had you done your homework you would have read the posts I have read, and you would know that my comments are truthful. Those, who like you, have not read them may want to support what you have said but they would then be making the same mistake as you have.

Had you raised a query with a sensible amount of politeness I'd have helped you with references but given the approach you have taken you can hardly be surprised that I'm disinclined to dignify your statement with such help. I can tell you that if you actually bother to check you will even find that a great many of the positive posts about KDB acknowledge what city fans see as his flaws and are written in the form of a defence against the criticisms Kevin receives from their fellow City supporters. Criticisms you want readers of this site to believe I just made up.

Now, my contention was that as far as I can divine, the opinion that Kevin would not be a part of City's theoretical best line up, is in the majority. There may be room for debate about whether I have gauged that correctly but the opinion exists and to deny it is only evidence that you have not taken the trouble to check.

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23 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I think you should show some more maturity in the way you interact on the site. If you are looking to get a rise out of me you are going to be disappointed.

Had you done your homework you would have read the posts I have read, and you would know that my comments are truthful. Those, who like you, have not read them may want to support what you have said but they would then be making the same mistake as you have.

Had you raised a query with a sensible amount of politeness I'd have helped you with references but given the approach you have taken you can hardly be surprised that I'm disinclined to dignify your statement with such help. I can tell that if you actually bother to check you will even find that a great many of the positive posts about KDB acknowledge what city fans see as his flaws and are written in the form of a defence against the criticisms Kevin receives from their fellow City supporters. Criticisms you want readers of this site to believe I just made up.

Now, my contention was that as far as I can divine, the opinion that Kevin would not be a part of their theoretical best line up, is in the majority. There may be room for debate about whether I have gauged that correctly but the opinion exists and to deny it is only evidence that you have not taken the trouble to check.

Guerss I'll post it here as well:

I wouldn't claim you're lying if I hadn't read City fans opinion on KDB, how you would even assume I'd accuse you for no reason is ridiculous. There's literally hundreds of pages on bluemoon alone describing him as the new Colin Bell (the early euphoria of a great new signing I know, nonetheless posts on a City board), how José was absolutely mental letting him leave Chelsea, how effectively sober he is on the pitch, hell, his stats speak for themself. Ofcourse there are negative posts as well, especially after his little blip before his injury, ficke fans are everywhere.

You claim the majority think he shouldn't make the team when everyone is fit and understand why José let him go, which is a blatant lie fella :)

I don't wish to discuss this further, he's not a Chelsea player so I don't really care, just had to call out the BS I read.

How I interact on the site is my business and I certainly won't change because of some condescending member who thinks he knows everything.

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2 minutes ago, Weckerz said:

Guerss I'll post it here as well:

I wouldn't claim you're lying if I hadn't read City fans opinion on KDB, how you would even assume I'd accuse you for no reason is ridiculous. There's literally hundreds of pages on bluemoon alone describing him as the new Colin Bell (the early euphoria of a great new signing I know, nonetheless posts on a City board), how José was absolutely mental letting him leave Chelsea, how effectively sober he is on the pitch, hell, his stats speak for themself. Ofcourse there are negative posts as well, especially after his little blip before his injury, ficke fans are everywhere.

You claim the majority think he shouldn't make the team when everyone is fit and understand why José let him go, which is a blatant lie fella :)

I don't wish to discuss this further, he's not a Chelsea player so I don't really care, just had to call out the BS I read.

How I interact on the site is my business and I certainly won't change because of some condescending member who thinks he knows everything.

If you're read bluemoon then you have read the posts to which I refer and you can have the honesty to apologise.

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Apologise he says, what the fuck for?

I just stated there are posts like you described, I never even denied that.

Not the majority though; WHICH YOU CLAIMED, hence "lie".

edit: can you please not edit your post after I tell you it's my business how I interact on the site? To make it clear you said: "I think you should show some more maturity in the way you interact on the site"; not "I wish you had shown more maturity in the way you responded"

Cheers.

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2 hours ago, Weckerz said:

Apologise he says, what the fuck for?

I just stated there are posts like you described, I never even denied that.

Not the majority though; WHICH YOU CLAIMED, hence "lie".

edit: can you please not edit your post after I tell you it's my business how I interact on the site? To make it clear you said: "I think you should show some more maturity in the way you interact on the site"; not "I wish you had shown more maturity in the way you responded"

Cheers.

I did initially write that but realised the original was not well worded and changed it before your reply appeared, i.e. we must have been typing at the same time. You'll acknowledge that we were replying to each other pretty much as live at that point. I'm posting this only to acknowledge that I did indeed reword my comment.

There is a difference between 'lie' and error or misjudgement. Since you know Bluemoon and the thread in question you should have no problem finding the run of pages over which these considered, i.e. not initial, honeymoon period, thoughts were being expressed and you'll see that my characterisation was reasonable. Lie remains a word for which you should apologise.

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10 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I did initially write that but realised the original was not well worded and changed it before your reply appeared, i.e. we must have been typing at the same time. You'll acknowledge that we were replying to each other pretty much as live at that point. I'm posting this only to acknowledge that I did indeed reword my comment.

There is a difference between 'lie' and error or misjudgement. Since you know Bluemoon and the thread in question you should have no problem finding the run of pages over which these considered, i.e. not initial, honeymoon period, thoughts were being expressed and you'll see that my characterisation was reasonable. Lie remains a word for which you should apologise.

Perhaps you misjudged then, although I find that hard to understand as it's obvious the vast majority doesn't think he needs to be benched or that José was right to sell him. Pretty much the reason why I used the wording "lie" in the heat of the moment, as it looked to me you wanted to prove a point using false information. I probably should have worded it differently, I didn't want to make you sound like a liar, for which I apologise.

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1 minute ago, Weckerz said:

Perhaps you misjudged then, although I find that hard to understand as it's obvious the vast majority doesn't think he needs to be benched or that José was right to sell him. Pretty much the reason why I used the wording "lie" in the heat of the moment, as it looked to me you wanted to prove a point using false information. I probably should have worded it differently, I didn't want to make you sound like a liar, for which I apologise.

Thank you I appreciate that. I did allude to the possibility of misjudgement when I wrote in my initial comment that the opinion was in the majority as far as I could divine. I do maintain however that people reading that run of pages will at least see where I got it from.

That said, since I have myself often made the same point you did about KDB being an ex Chelsea player, and since it is the treatment/prospects of Charlay Musonda that we were really discussing, I'd sooner get back to talking about our present and our future, not our past. 

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If you're read bluemoon then you have read the posts to which I refer and you can have the honesty to apologise.

Ive read the thread 'should he be in the starting 11' and it is more about balance in the team (him and Silva) then about ability. They seem pretty unanimous about that tbh.

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