ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 He's better than Oscar, and he is on Hazards level. He is our best youth player on loan. I dont think hes better than oscar and he 100% is not on hazards level nor is he a better loanie than courtois arguably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I dont think hes better than oscar and he 100% is not on hazards level nor is he a better loanie than courtois arguablyIf you repeat, so can I !! Ok man !! Your eloquence and well-founded opinion just rocked my boat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Ok man !! Your eloquence and well-founded opinion just rocked my boat! ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I know, I think the same, if you see my second post on him you'll see that - but the thing is he hasn't had that solid platform yet so to say he's on Hazard's level already is a bit too far at the moment because he hasn't been given that opportunity at a stable platform yet. He can definitely get there though.This. My man Skipper. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 hes not better than oscar and hes certainly not better than hazardWhat has Oscar shown (granted, in the prem) that KDB hasn't?Never said he's better than Hazard. He isn't. Belgiannutt and Stingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 ??Yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo 28 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Zidane is, but Pirlo? no way. Pk England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 What has Oscar shown (granted, in the prem) that KDB hasn't?Never said he's better than Hazard. He isn't.Actually, nobody did. It was said though he had the same potential. Retorics and spindoctors can be a bitch :-) Weckerz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 If you repeat, so can I !! Ok man !! Your eloquence and well-founded opinion just rocked my boat! its eloquent in that context! If you look at the comment im not talking to you fella! And its as blunt a response as what im repling to. This forum bar a few is made up of people giving unfounded comments/opinions Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I'd play him on the right wing. That's how Schweinsteiger got started. Eventually he'll probably also take up a deep role. I'm sure he'd be at his best in a central attacking position but that will never happen here unless Mata and Oscar get their legs ripped off by a tractor while they're skipping through a field near a farm.if we play him as a RW, he will be really fast on the bench. lacks pace and speed for RW position. and also isnt a big dribbler neither. de bruyne as a RW is a complete wasteschweinstiger was mostly mediocre as a RW...in the centre he is 100 times better. Ronaldo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Well, he's got 15 goals and 21 assists this season which is definitely up there with the best if you ask me, and he's only going to improve. Already one of the star players in the PL, so surely he's one of the best in Europe already as well?Well, when you compare that to Ronaldo and Messi, (i know..both players are out of this world, but if he's going to be one of the best he needs to at least get close to them) it's not very much. You also have to take into consideration the fact that he's play 60+ games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 What has Oscar shown (granted, in the prem) that KDB hasn't?Never said he's better than Hazard. He isn't. you said he was the best young player we had...surely hazard is young? Better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Yes! fella I dont know how to reply to that, no idea what your talking about in the first place and that retort has left me further confused. Stay classy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 you said he was the best young player we had...surely hazard is young? Better?I actually said youth player, not young player. I should've said the best young player not currently in the squad. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Pk England.It was a good penalty, but how does that define the way he plays on the pitch? The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Well, when you compare that to Ronaldo and Messi, (i know..both players are out of this world, but if he's going to be one of the best he needs to at least get close to them) it's not very much. You also have to take into consideration the fact that he's play 60+ games. Frankly, no one are on their level, but that doesn't mean you're still not one of the best players in Europe in my opinion. I certainly rate him that highly, Messi and Ronaldo are on another level though. bababoom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo 28 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 It was a good penalty, but how does that define the way he plays on the pitch? Pirlo passes are flashy.They are not short passes,but killer long balls. He might not be fast, but his game is def. Flashy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 fella I dont know how to reply to that, no idea what your talking about in the first place and that retort has left me further confused. Stay classyI will stay classy, man. I was referring to your post when you just stated an opinion as fact without argumentation. Twice. Hence - eloquence and such . Bit of banter really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I actually said youth player, not young player. I should've said the best young player not currently in the squad.yes but if oscar is in the bracket of kdb for age then so is hazard! Anyway, getting bogged down in whos better than whom here. I originally said he wasnt the best youth ( should have said young but assumed people wouldnt think I meant the akes, chalobas et al) we have here and imo he isnt. I personally believe hazard will be one of the best about, I also think that oscar at such a young age, to be in the brazil first team says alot about how good the kid is. In honesty I dont watch kdb a lot but what ive seen hes good, very good but I wouldnt be heartbroken if he was sold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I will stay classy, man. I was referring to your post when you just stated an opinion as fact without argumentation. Twice. Hence - eloquence and such . Bit of banter really. sigh..if you'd read the post I replied to you would see why I worded my response like I did. It was saying kdb was the best and this one and that one was shit!! No factual basis whatsoeverEdit: they didnt say shit, said shit loads better Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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