Kieran. 6,317 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Ashamed to be American.Not once have I been proud to American in my 18 years of life. Called me spoiled or ungrateful, but I can't accept blind patriotism. The way we carry out things in this world greatly angers and saddens me. Our pro-Israel, excuse me, ANTI-Palestine stance sickens me.We have given Israel the most foreign aid overall...and the amount of money we give Israel is more than we give to the entire CONTINENT of Africa.Obama has promised Israel $30,000,000,000 over the next decade. smfh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OReillyD36 311 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Step in the right direction, not shocked by any of the countries who voted no. Happy but surprised that Ireland were in favour considering the cronies we have in power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Ashamed to be American.Not once have I been proud to American in my 18 years of life. Called me spoiled or ungrateful, but I can't accept blind patriotism. The way we carry out things in this world greatly angers and saddens me. Our pro-Israel, excuse me, ANTI-Palestine stance sickens me.We have given Israel the most foreign aid overall...and the amount of money we give Israel is more than we give to the entire CONTINENT of Africa.Obama has promised Israel $30,000,000,000 over the next decade. smfh.Indeed.America's position is totally hypocritical. They claim Palestine can only become a member of the UN through peace negotiations, yet they seem determined to deter this. The weapons link is no surprise to anyone & the most disturbing thing is, most those weapons are used against the Palestinian people.They look embarrassing on the international stage at the moment. I'm very happy most nations are now accepting the Palestine claim for independence, especially the likes of France. I'm sure Obama's doing everything he can to keep the Palestine people repressed.It's a sick country.Step in the right direction, not shocked by any of the countries who voted no. Happy but surprised that Ireland were in favour considering the cronies we have in power.That's good. Not surprised Britain abstained.. After all, they don't want to piss off big-brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 I wouldnt be ashamed to be American KieranVogel -it's more a case of the need for ordianary Americans to openly challenge the Zionist lobby groups AIPAC and others, and to say we dont want our tax dollars to be syphoned out to Israel. Obama and every president since the 1950s has been in the pocket of the Zionists. Enough is Enough.On Libya and Gaddafi -someone sent me this which is interesting1. There is no electricity bill in... Libya; electricity is freefor all its citizens.2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya arestate-owned and loans givento all its citizens at 0% interest by law.3. Home considered a human right in Libya –Gaddafi vowed that his parentswould not get a house until everyone in Libya had ahome. Gaddafi’s father hasdied while him, his wife and his mother are still livingin a tent.4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000 ) by the governmentto buy their first apartment so to help start up thefamily.5. Education and medical treatments are free inLibya. Before Gaddafi only 25%of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%.6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career,they would receive farmingland, a farming house, equipments, seeds andlivestock to kick- start their farms– all for free.7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medicalfacilities they need in Libya,the government funds them to go abroad for it –not only free but they get US$2, 300/mth accommodation and car allowance.8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the governmentsubsidized 50% of the price.9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0. 14 per liter.10. Libya has no external debt and its reservesamount to $150 billion – nowfrozen globally.11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment aftergraduation the state wouldpay the average salary of the profession as if he orshe is employed untilemployment is found.12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly tothe bank accounts of allLibyan citizens.13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5 ,00014. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $ 0.1515. 25% of Libyans have a university degree16. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigationproject, known as the GreatMan-Made River project, to make water readilyavailable throughout the desertcountry.AND EVERYONE THOUGHT GADAFFI WAS BAD????? WHAT ELSE YOU NEED FROM YOUR GOVERNMENT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 AND EVERYONE THOUGHT GADAFFI WAS BAD????? WHAT ELSE YOU NEED FROM YOUR GOVERNMENT Exactly.It's exactly like Malcolm said, "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartless Beast 7 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I wouldnt be ashamed to be American KieranVogel -it's more a case of the need for ordianary Americans to openly challenge the Zionist lobby groups AIPAC and others, and to say we dont want our tax dollars to be syphoned out to Israel. Obama and every president since the 1950s has been in the pocket of the Zionists. Enough is Enough.On Libya and Gaddafi -someone sent me this which is interesting1. There is no electricity bill in... Libya; electricity is freefor all its citizens.2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya arestate-owned and loans givento all its citizens at 0% interest by law.3. Home considered a human right in Libya –Gaddafi vowed that his parentswould not get a house until everyone in Libya had ahome. Gaddafi’s father hasdied while him, his wife and his mother are still livingin a tent.4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000 ) by the governmentto buy their first apartment so to help start up thefamily.5. Education and medical treatments are free inLibya. Before Gaddafi only 25%of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%.6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career,they would receive farmingland, a farming house, equipments, seeds andlivestock to kick- start their farms– all for free.7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medicalfacilities they need in Libya,the government funds them to go abroad for it –not only free but they get US$2, 300/mth accommodation and car allowance.8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the governmentsubsidized 50% of the price.9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0. 14 per liter.10. Libya has no external debt and its reservesamount to $150 billion – nowfrozen globally.11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment aftergraduation the state wouldpay the average salary of the profession as if he orshe is employed untilemployment is found.12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly tothe bank accounts of allLibyan citizens.13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5 ,00014. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $ 0.1515. 25% of Libyans have a university degree16. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigationproject, known as the GreatMan-Made River project, to make water readilyavailable throughout the desertcountry.AND EVERYONE THOUGHT GADAFFI WAS BAD????? WHAT ELSE YOU NEED FROM YOUR GOVERNMENT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX6_W-SyiO4Continue to watch part 2 and 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 There is no such thing as an american dream, the more you learn about it the more you realize that its more of a nightmare. America has the biggest class divide on planet earth, the market driven health care in america dictates who is good enough to receive health care and who is not. The funny thing is the american's always go on about our health care here in the UK and how much of a disaster it is when we spend less as a percentage of GDP on our health care then they do despite them having a bigger slice of the world economy per capita then what we do. You can be in the middle of a heart attack in america and the paramedic still wants to make sure you have the insurance before he tries to save your LIFE IN THE AMBULANCE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I wouldnt be ashamed to be American KieranVogel -it's more a case of the need for ordianary Americans to openly challenge the Zionist lobby groups AIPAC and others, and to say we dont want our tax dollars to be syphoned out to Israel. Obama and every president since the 1950s has been in the pocket of the Zionists. Enough is Enough.On Libya and Gaddafi -someone sent me this which is interesting1. There is no electricity bill in... Libya; electricity is freefor all its citizens.2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya arestate-owned and loans givento all its citizens at 0% interest by law.3. Home considered a human right in Libya –Gaddafi vowed that his parentswould not get a house until everyone in Libya had ahome. Gaddafi’s father hasdied while him, his wife and his mother are still livingin a tent.4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000 ) by the governmentto buy their first apartment so to help start up thefamily.5. Education and medical treatments are free inLibya. Before Gaddafi only 25%of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%.6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career,they would receive farmingland, a farming house, equipments, seeds andlivestock to kick- start their farms– all for free.7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medicalfacilities they need in Libya,the government funds them to go abroad for it –not only free but they get US$2, 300/mth accommodation and car allowance.8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the governmentsubsidized 50% of the price.9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0. 14 per liter.10. Libya has no external debt and its reservesamount to $150 billion – nowfrozen globally.11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment aftergraduation the state wouldpay the average salary of the profession as if he orshe is employed untilemployment is found.12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly tothe bank accounts of allLibyan citizens.13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5 ,00014. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $ 0.1515. 25% of Libyans have a university degree16. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigationproject, known as the GreatMan-Made River project, to make water readilyavailable throughout the desertcountry.AND EVERYONE THOUGHT GADAFFI WAS BAD????? WHAT ELSE YOU NEED FROM YOUR GOVERNMENT can you vouch for the accuracy of all these claims?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 can you vouch for the accuracy of all these claims??No like I said a friend sent them. Be a bit stupid to make them up though.I remember Gaddafi in the 80s had a bit of a boom on the oil reserves and gave everyone in the country £500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 The real reason Behind taking Gaddafi down was that he refused to trade oil for dollar instead he was he'll bent on trading oil for gold. This would obviously have a tremendous impact on dollar as the global currency. US Did this when the world war broke out. They sat on the fence and supplied weapons for gold. Development of Europe post war was done in return for gold. participation in world war was in return for gold. The idea behind this was to make dollar the global currency. Big loans were then handed out in rebuilding of Europe in the form of dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 There is no such thing as an american dream, the more you learn about it the more you realize that its more of a nightmare. America has the biggest class divide on planet earth, the market driven health care in america dictates who is good enough to receive health care and who is not. The funny thing is the american's always go on about our health care here in the UK and how much of a disaster it is when we spend less as a percentage of GDP on our health care then they do despite them having a bigger slice of the world economy per capita then what we do. You can be in the middle of a heart attack in america and the paramedic still wants to make sure you have the insurance before he tries to save your LIFE IN THE AMBULANCE.I work in healthcare insurance domain and i Agree the healthcare is bad out here but you are treated even if you do not have a health insurance only in this case you pay out of your own pocket. and that can hit your bank balance hard. I think the way it works is the govt takes care of the bill but you then have to pay the govt in installments or something. I really like the UK healthcare. I ears that you guys don't have to pay a penny from your pocket when you are treated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Our pro-Israel, excuse me, ANTI-Palestine stance sickens me.Obama has promised Israel $30,000,000,000 over the next decade. smfh.Do you know that UNESCO gets one fifth of it's funding from US? Now the state of Palestine was recently made a member of UNESCO by the member nations. US threatened to stop the funding to UNESCO.Obama alone can't change the foreign policy of the nation that is been going on for years. More powerful than a president of any country is the head of the country's intelligence. If they feel the president is Doing any harm to their foreign interest they can take him down and you won't even know that it was them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I can presume where the oil from Libya will be syphoned off to. Iraq ✔, Libya ✔, Afghanistan ✔. I'm guessing Iran & Syria is next.Syria yes. Iran no. They won't touch nations like Iran or north Korea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 No like I said a friend sent them. Be a bit stupid to make them up though.I remember Gaddafi in the 80s had a bit of a boom on the oil reserves and gave everyone in the country £500.There are Two sides to a coin. This guy Must be a Gaddafi supporter. But Gaddafi was on their agenda for a long long time I must say. And they just needed a spark which they got in the form of the revolution.Amazing what the street vendor Mohamed Bouazid in Tunisia has done to the world. Talk about butterfly effect.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Syria yes. Iran no. They won't touch nations like Iran or north KoreaLet's see. Now that Euro-America have a their thirst for oil marginally filled, I'm sure they'll want more. And more Imperial colonies of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 The real reason Behind taking Gaddafi down was that he refused to trade oil for dollar instead he was he'll bent on trading oil for gold. This would obviously have a tremendous impact on dollar as the global currency.He was also interested in trading for Euros, which fucks old uncle sam off.There were 30 000 Chinese in Libya building the infrastructure -roads, bridges, and the NATO bombing had the effect of them all evacuating, thus nullifying any future trade links between Libya and China Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I work in healthcare insurance domain and i Agree the healthcare is bad out here but you are treated even if you do not have a health insurance only in this case you pay out of your own pocket. and that can hit your bank balance hard. I think the way it works is the govt takes care of the bill but you then have to pay the govt in installments or something.I really like the UK healthcare. I ears that you guys don't have to pay a penny from your pocket when you are treated.The way it works here is we pay taxes and we get healthcare and a host of other services too. Americans pay taxes and it goes towards star wars nuclear defense systems and Israel. America can blow the world up 25 times over, that is how much tax payers money has gone towards your defense and its wayyy over the top. Even if you cut your military budget by half you will still be by far and away the most powerful nation on earth. We might not be the perfect society here in England but we have a much better society then america were bearing arms is a right and you have a right to hate by your constitution. Our NHS is not being run perfectly at the moment not by a long stretch but i am still very proud of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 He was also interested in trading for Euros, which fucks old uncle sam off.Doesn't make sense. This would have only made the EURO stronger. Why would Sarkozy push for sanctions on Gaddafi?And US sat on fence while European Nations bombarded Libya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 The way it works here is we pay taxes and we get healthcare and a host of other services too. Americans pay taxes and it goes towards star wars nuclear defense systems and Israel. And the bank bailouts. It is just so wrong the way tax payers money is being spent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 And US sat on fence while European Nations bombarded LibyaWhat?! NATO include American forces. Hilary Clinton said the day before Gaddafi was killed "I hope he's captured or killed soon" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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