Spike 12,049 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 love your reasonableness.Cap knows to not take me too seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Cap knows to not take me too seriously.On the contrary, I take everything you say quite seriously.I can't tell when you're serious or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 On the contrary, I take everything you say quite seriously.I can't tell when you're serious or not.Which is a stark contrast to how people treat me in the physical world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Which is a stark contrast to how people treat me in the physical world.No one takes you seriously?No one takes me seriously, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 No one takes you seriously?No one takes me seriously, either. Mainly because the majority of things I say shouldn't be taken seriously. I have different reputations among different groups, some think I'm never to be taken seriously others take me seriously all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Cap you're being a bit harsh. Let's thank whoever it was who decided to let Messi have the career he's had. This must've happened to thousands of other people but because none are as good as Messi, this is being dramatically inflated. The right thing HAS been done regarding the Messi case and i'm privileged that i've seen him play. Imagine never seeing this guy do what he's done... woulda been a travesty.This case should be a catalyst to help everyone in difficulty, no matter the level of quality of the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Cap you're being a bit harsh. Let's thank whoever it was who decided to let Messi have the career he's had. This must've happened to thousands of other people but because none are as good as Messi, this is being dramatically inflated. The right thing HAS been done regarding the Messi case and i'm privileged that i've seen him play. Imagine never seeing this guy do what he's done... woulda been a travesty.This case should be a catalyst to help everyone in difficulty, no matter the level of quality of the player.Perhaps I am. I blame Floyd Landis for turning me into a cynic. I remember as a 12 year old being amazed by his exploits, a week later he got exposed. It shattered my trust in athletes, and these days I tend to go off the assumption that anyone good is on something and wait for them to prove that they're not. In my opinion, the right of presumed innocence has sailed in professional sports; and the burden of proof rests on the defence, not the prosecution; especially when you get cases like Marion Jones and Lance Armstrong who 'never tested positive' (well, actually, the courts revealed a couple of days ago that Lance had tested positive in 1999 but it had been hushed up).It's happened too often now. We need a massive fall out for it to be stamped out of sport altogether, or we'll have farces like the 100 metres men's final in the 1988 Seoul Games (where every single competitor tested positive) as the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 But Messi's not quite the same as them. He needed help to show of his potential. You can take drugs for stamina, strength, fitness etc but drugs can't help you with how amazing you are with a football at your feet. His ability is being controlled by himself, he's doing what he wants to do. He's still a very small guy. Cyclists, runners etc take drugs that really do have an effect on how they perform. Nothing in this universe can make you play football like Lionel Messi. If there was something, i'm on it and maybe Kalou can try some too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 But Messi's not quite the same as them. He needed help to show of his potential. You can take drugs for stamina, strength, fitness etc but drugs can't help you with how amazing you are with a football at your feet. His ability is being controlled by himself, he's doing what he wants to do. He's still a very small guy. Cyclists, runners etc take drugs that really do have an effect on how they perform. Nothing in this universe can make you play football like Lionel Messi. If there was something, i'm on it and maybe Kalou can try some too.They can help when you're still developing in your teens. Doping someone allows them to focus a lot less on physical training and a lot more on technical training, which at that developmental stage makes a massive difference. You're already getting naturally bigger, faster, stronger from puberty, pumping drugs in at that stage can allow a youth player to virtually ignore physical training.Also cyclists' drugs help only with recovery. HGH isn't used in cycling anymore, its all blood doping. Football seems to be more or less the same, except they prefer nandrolene rather than EPO, but the amount of heart related deaths/strokes we've seen on the pitch in recent years confirms that EPO is very much in use. Recovery cuts down injury time, the likelihood of injury is also reduced as there's less fatigue in an individuals muscles. It also allows even fully fledged players to devote themselves to technical training and limit time spent on physical training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 His amazing FK against Madrid last nighthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84YVHuf-LO4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 It's not as if he still takes them. It would be a completely different thing if he still took them.Xavi uses Human Growth Hormone- and he uses them right now. 2012.So, if Messi is given an exemption for using HGH because he was sick, what's Xavi's excuse?You lose 8% of your speed after completing five 2nd half sprints. 8%! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 [Rant]Let me make this clear: Messi WILL NOT better Muller's acheivement simply because Muller managed to score 85 goals in less games.[/Rant] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 He just broke it [Rant]Let me make this clear: Messi WILL NOT better Muller's acheivement simply because Muller managed to score 85 goals in less games.[/Rant]Muller made it in 60, Messi broke it in 66. Let's see how many more goals he can get, I have a feeling he's not going to stop here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 He still has a couple of games to get more. Glad he's done it, best player i've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Fantastic achievement & definitely deserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osgoodisgod 150 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Zola...let's see Messi score when he's only got one functioning leg :blue scalf: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Muller made it in 60, Messi broke it in 66. Let's see how many more goals he can get, I have a feeling he's not going to stop here With 6 more games Muller would have hit the 100 goal mark Plus Gerd never took penalties.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I couldn't be more delighted for him. Fully deserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 wasn't he strechted off in mid week? The amount of steroids he had in his system made him almost immune to any injury... Remember when he his ankle broke and he was off for 2 weeks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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