LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Sour grapes!Hardly.He makes a very good point. There should be rules about having such relations.. It's a mockery. They share the same money as it is, being brothers and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Hardly.He makes a very good point. There should be rules about having such relations.. It's a mockery. They share the same money as it is, being brothers and all.And I remember some people here saying Roman could do the same thing with a company.To help us get the money needed.City where just the first one to do it, and soon we will find out if UEFA will do anything.I really doubt it, cause UEFA won't let business get in the way. City is getting the money and investing in academy and infrastructure, which is what UEFA rather see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 And I remember some people here saying Roman could do the same thing with a company.To help us get the money needed.City where just the first one to do it, and soon we will find out if UEFA will do anything.I really doubt it, cause UEFA won't let business get in the way. City is getting the money and investing in academy and infrastructure, which is what UEFA rather see.He could, but he hasn't. If he did, then you're right, it would be wrong too. UEFA will let it slide as long as they make a profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 He could, but he hasn't. If he did, then you're right, it would be wrong too. UEFA will let it slide as long as they make a profit.It's not about profit.I think UEFA wants to see more infrastructure investment, and youth development then crazy spending player.As UEFA permits these stuff to be writen of from the FFP rule.It is why City has said they will spend all this money on building stuff and youth.This would be what buys UEFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 It's not about profit.I think UEFA wants to see more infrastructure investment, and youth development then crazy spending player.As UEFA permits these stuff to be writen of from the FFP rule.It is why City has said they will spend all this money on building stuff and youth.This would be what buys UEFA.End of the day UEFA won't seriously kick clubs such as Real Madrid & Barcelona out the Champions League, even if they failed on all terms of UFFP. They make a lot of TV rights of this big-name matches and it helps them balance their own books.You'll see this. No big clubs will face any real challenge for their Champions League places. Platini will not risk it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 A timely word on the matter ...Educate yourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruggedknot 105 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 A timely word on the matter ...Educate yourselves.Good shout ! I just caught wind of the article through twitter and it was an exhaustive insightful read , as is the rest of the entries in the Swiss Ramble . Got on here and you had already posted it . There is another good article on his take of how Chelsea plan on avoiding the FFP sanctions and the steps taken for it in an equally brilliantly researched and tactful article which is a good read .Chelsea's FFP challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 End of the day UEFA won't seriously kick clubs such as Real Madrid & Barcelona out the Champions League, even if they failed on all terms of UFFP. They make a lot of TV rights of this big-name matches and it helps them balance their own books.You'll see this. No big clubs will face any real challenge for their Champions League places. Platini will not risk it.Might be possible, but as I see it, this whole rule seems sort of like a salary cap.UEFA won't care if City get all this money as long as they spend it on building academy and infrastructure.What they don't want to see is ridiculous price like we just did for Torres! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 A timely word on the matter ...Educate yourselves.And it is exactly what i been saying!City is smart, because the money they will get they will invested on youth academy and infrastructure. UEFA likes this, and UEFA also allows this spenditure to be deducted from the FFP rule.It's just smart business from City. And because they are doing smart business some people have gotten jealous, like Wenger, liverpool owner and a lot of fans.As I said before, it's just sour grapes.On my part, well done City! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Good shout ! I just caught wind of the article through and it was an exhaustive insightful read , as is the rest of the entries in the Swiss Ramble . Got on here and you had already posted it . There is another good article on his take of how Chelsea plan on avoiding the FFP sanctions and the steps taken for it in an equally brilliantly researched and tactful article which is a good read .Chelsea's FFP challengeYes The Swiss Ramble is very thorough and meticulous, but more importantly, lucid and relatively simple to understand, even for readers who have no background in finance. The writer's a great guy as well and his writings are laced with subtle humour and there's none of the bias you'd find in some of these blogs. Guess not all Gooners are complete twats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Yes The Swiss Ramble is very thorough and meticulous, but more importantly, lucid and relatively simple to understand, even for readers who have no background in finance. The writer's a great guy as well and his writings are laced with subtle humour and there's none of the bias you'd find in some of these blogs. Guess not all Gooners are complete twats It just shows that in every team there are fans that like to look at every side of each team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 What they don't want to see is ridiculous price like we just did for Torres!Well how does that make sense if City will continue to spend money for more players in the windows? They'll still be inflating the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Well how does that make sense if City will continue to spend money for more players in the windows? They'll still be inflating the market.Inflating the market???It is not City. That is Real Madrid and Chelsea inflating the market! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Inflating the market???It is not City. That is Real Madrid and Chelsea inflating the market!They signed Yaya Toure on wages of £250,000 a week!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 They signed Yaya Toure on wages of £250,000 a week!! Wait, does Wages inflate the market? Or the price they pay to buy and sell players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Wait, does Wages inflate the market? Or the price they pay to buy and sell players?Wages do, in my opinion. Because it drives the cost up, at which the players are sold at (usually higher than the equilibrium of wages*years left). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Wages do, in my opinion. Because it drives the cost up, at which the players are sold at (usually higher than the equilibrium of wages*years left).Interesting. But still wages are offer by the club itself, and should had no impact on buying players like Ronalda, Yaya, and such. It more has to do with the absurd valuation a player has due to the market value of what some players have gone for in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Interesting. But still wages are offer by the club itself, and should had no impact on buying players like Ronalda, Yaya, and such. It more has to do with the absurd valuation a player has due to the market value of what some players have gone for in the past.Fair enough, I can see how you've reached that conclusion. However they are, just as much, responsible for how the market is as us or Real Madrid (<- Who are the worst, for the record). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Wait, does Wages inflate the market? Or the price they pay to buy and sell players?Both. Considering only transfer fees is an extremely limited way of looking at football economics. Wages have to be accounted if you are serious about discussing the business that modern football is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcherfromafar 11 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 One of the aspects of sports that has really left me cold is the corporate-sponsored stadium names. Here in the good ole U.S, I think I got a lot more jaded when my Riverfront Stadium (in Cincinnati, Ohio) became Cinergy Field (named after an energy company). All that's left here are the stadiums so historical that they can't get away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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