ChuckTesta

You are truly serious about the NT-comparison apparantly. Beating Italy and Spain with Brazil instead of beating Croatia and Serbia with Belgium apparantly is a valid argument to prove that Oscar's better. Seriously?
In my opinion you are doing exactly the same you are blaming "all of the Belgians on this board" of. Oscar clearly is your favorite Chelsea-player, so it's probably not worth further discussion between us both. No-one said Oscar is shit. One guy said Oscar's last season had lots of meh-games. In your opinion, I'm, and with me all the other Belgians, just here to defend the Belgian Chelsea-players.
Well I'm not. It's not just Chelsea, I've always been bothered by coaches using double standards, especially if they are more critically towards younger players and more lenient towards more experienced players. There are more experienced Chelsea-players that haven't played one convincing game this season. Yet they don't get publically punished for one bad game. While they are experienced players from who you should expect even more convincing games then a young player playing his first season in the Premier League. Yet the older players are still with the team and one of the younger players gets stick publically for a bad cup-game. Ofcourse Mourinho has every right to expect more from De Bruyne, but he should not treat him like he did yesterday.

Oscar was pretty meh for a whole season, while KDB was getting headlines week in week out in Germany.
Going from these first few weeks at Chelsea, Oscar has undoubtedly been much better (he's also played a lot more), but it's not THAT hard to understand.
Comparisons are futile anyway, they're both completely different players.
Some are so quick to judge; one thing I do know, if the Chelsea-KDB relationship doesn't work out I fear he'll be one of those 'if only we didn't sell him' players.
Way too soon to assume things won't work out though

I am still waiting for your first.

YOU are the one comparing him to Messi, Ronaldo, Ribery. YOU expect Messi-esque performances from him every week. That's your problem, you'll be diasppointed more often than not. He's no Messi, this isn't La liga.
You come on here post-match rambling about how bad he was blablabla, after his best performance in weeks. As soon as there's a compilation from the game I'll send it to you so you can have a proper look at what he did today.
And no, Oscar didn't do a commendable job , he had a shocker today. Hence the reason why suddenly he's not good enough anymore to be our 10 and Mata should definately start from now on! This place is filled with plastic idiots like yourself who don't see the bigger picture and want instant ZOMG DROOL FLASHY football and results. Don't even talk to me if you're gonna start about me being no Chelsea-fan, I was here long before he joined. Now kindly fuck off.

With all due respect i do not understand your point of view, which leads me to believe you don't know much about football.
First : "Hazard tendency to lose possession" Dafuq did i just hear ???
Hazard is extraordinary in that matter, his close-control, balance and vision allows him to hold the ball like the best in the world in that domain.
Empirical proofs of that are multiple. His statistics in keeping the ball, and number of loss per game are indisputably on his side.
Another statiscal proof of his skills in the matter : he's been twice in a row most fouled player of Ligue 1 (and Europe the second year), most fouled player at Chelsea for his first season. So unless you consider getting fooled is losing possession, i don't see what you complain about. Not only he's terrific at holding possession, he frequently creates space for other and manages to create movement in dangerous areas...
Besides, that "tendency" that you call, is just collateral damage. I don't know what world you live in, but football is difficult, no matter how gifted you are, there's defenders just as good in front of you willing to put you down no matter what. When you're as offensive minded as Eden Hazard, typically wingers and AM, you're bound to lose the ball. Because what they do, if they succeed it, creates danger, space. Their presence is constant, their threat weighing out opposite defence every minute of the match... Watch of Barcelona game for once in a while, you'll be astounded to see how many times Messi loses the ball during the game, while he's the best in the world for that exercise. Hazard is easily in the close four behind the incredible Argentinian.
2nd : "Inconsistent passing" ???
No need for a long speech, stats will suffice : 88% passing accuracy overall his career, 90% as a n°10 his last season at Lille (source : LFP) ; 85% pass success for his first year in Premier League with NEW partners !
According to whoscored, 45 passes/game in Premier League, 12 assists, 65 key passes, 75% accuracy for long-range passes
For a winger, or any other advanced midfielders, you'll find few with better stats.

I remember pre-season 2007/08. Ronaldo was exactly the same kind of player. Got passed players, but his execution was off.
Several months later, he ended the season with 40+ goals, a Premier League title and A European Cup.
All he needs to do is work on certain aspects and have confidence, which I am sure Mourinho is trying to instill.

Cruyff was all about elegance and ego. He invented tricks not for them to be effective but just to be cool, he scored goals just for the sake of it, he dribbled past players effortlessly just because he could. Cruyff was an artist, playing football for football's sake.
Kevin is no artist. Kevin is a crafter, doing his very best with the target always in mind. He makes things happen, runs to help the team, always looking for the best pass to get us nearer to the goal, taking the shot when he has the opportunity.
Both - artist and crafter - have their place in football. I don't like those "the next xy" terms but when one uses them one should at least wait unitl mentality and style are characteristic for a player. There is no use of slapping a "the next xy" tag on a kid who has not even found his onw path himself. Now at 22 years you can make such judgement over KDB. But honestly, do we really need to?

Are you basing this off 2 pre season performances or? Before his injury last season, Hazard was Chelsea's in form player. In the 2nd half of the season he was better than Mata. This is a ridiculous thing to say. Can't believe people genuinely wouldn't start Hazard because of two meaningless games. Absolutely shocking.

all the fuss about Eden is because he played some so-so matches in the pre-season. Isn't it common knowledge that he doesn't like friendlies? I know this isn't a NT friendly and pre-season according to Mourinho and now John Terry - is one of the most critical parts of the season. But that's not to say what he can or can't do, but to recover the physical form to play the following nine months.
He may put an effort - and I believe he does - but the fact is maybe what really motivates him is playing real competitions, what makes he run the extra mile - something he might not even control in a conscious level. It's more than understandable that he isn't playing his better level yet. That's what pre-season is here for, so he can find his best form again as we enter the official tournaments in a few weeks.
Kevin has space in the team, especially when you see José complimenting him like that. He wouldn't have said Kev is one of the key players for us and that he is fantastic if he didn't think so.
He will play for us and he may eventually even play where Eden plays, but to expect Eden to leave the team to accommodate Kev seems far-fetched imo.
Kevin will start some matches for us and he will progress and maybe even end the season as a regular in the starting XI. That won't be replacing Hazard though...

Wow, are you serious? Hazard is the only player of those you mentioned that got the speed and technique too play on the wings and you wanna leave him out?

Mata, Hazard and Oscar are further a long when it comes to development and adaptation to the level of football that is required at the bridge. However De Bruyne is the player that fits best into Mourinho's philosophy of play, which helps a lot as well. Which helps compensate his performances very much. Also any good trainer looks not just to the past, the current, but also to the future and near future. Seeing as KDB fits in best, has as much talent and potential as Hazard and Oscar (just not as polished yet), the smart thing to do is already fitting him in and getting him playing time. Especially against smaller teams (though he is great at counter attacking, so he'll naturally do well against tough opposition as well). He'll fit in quickly as well seeing how the game fits him, he might have to adapt less than Hazard. Also if there's one thing that helps with him is that one of his biggest qualities is his effectiveness/impact and contribution in assists and goals. Finally his skill at set pieces, which Chelsea really had some problems with, especially Hazard's and Mata's corners, give a coach a good reason to put his name on the team sheet.
Discussing who is the best is silly as they are different types of players who merely play about the same spot of the pitch. They are all strong contenders for playing a lot and a team like chelsea needs more than three quality players for those three very important positions. Add to this that they are indeed different types and thus provide not only good substitutes but tactical flexibility. Tactics will likely be a determining who will play, of course combined with current level of play, and thus make for varying starting places. I don't expect him to play the most of these players, perhaps the least of the four, but I expect him still to make an impact and gather a decent amount of playing time and not a season like Moses. Andre is however, I think, likely to play a similar role to moses last year. While Moses role will likely diminish, sadly as he is a little underrated. on the other hand how tougher it is to get a spot in the team, the better the team, which is what we ultimately want