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have him, Hazard and Costa. I don't feel bad about my chosen Chelsea representatives

and still when he does something slightly good technically, I praise him. Ramires - unlike Oscar - doesn't have consistency issues, he has technical issues and isn't a player to be starting nearly all matches for a team as big as Chelsea, but it's a great squad member to have for certain kind of matches that favor his style. That's said there with all words. And I won't deny his lack of technique pisses me off. I don't have patience for certain things... stupid people, non-technical players, dirty players, Pep Guardiola etc... it's bigger than me. But I'm against selling him and I can praise him and done in the past. But he needs to be born again to be considered a technical player. my last two posts on Ramires' thread are clear where I stand about him Much more supportive of the Chelsea player than most things I read about Oscar in this thread, even though Oscar is the best player between the two of them (imo). Both players had a good start of season last year and had terrible matches from January on. Still I rate Oscar higher than Ramires...

I'm not angry, I'm annoyed beyond words. I don't get it, instead of getting behind OUR player, keep the positives in mind - I don't mind acknowledging the negatives - people just focus on the negative, using a double standard as basically no one says a word about the other 9-10 players that were also bad in the first half. Fans are also called supporters, but some just fail to do the supporting part. It's annoying.

weren't you and a few others that nailed Ramires to start today on his place? Or am I mixing my facts... you talked all those words, but didn't talk about it, did you? Why hasn't Ramires started? Or Willian? Willian had a better PS than Oscar did... he started really bad the first match, but he improved a lot in the second, played better than Oscar. Then another bunch here also chose Willian to replace Oscar in the starting XI today... all massively disappointed, I suppose. Wasn't around when the lineup came, but I can imagine the pouts. And what is this about winning combo? Isn't Oscar the weak link? It doesn't matter if it's a winning combo or not, weak links simply leave the starting eleven, don't they? It's the tone of the thread, how people can't say anything good. I don't see other players' threads being filled with posts about how awful their first half was, still it's a consensus the whole team was bad. Hope Ramires does start next match, otherwise you might pout.

and do you think I give an actual fuck who José plays in the big matches? All I care here is that Chelsea wins matches, plays well and for the players to do well. If he wants to play his daughter and wife against City, Everton, Arsenal and we win, I don't give an actual fuck. I'm talking about this season, the fact that Oscar didn't do a good pre-season, clearly still out of form and started our two official matches back me up, not what José said 12, 6 or 3 months ago. I'm building my opinion on facts, not guesses. He's an important player - so much that even when he's clearly not playing his best yet - far from it - he's still nailed in the starting XI. Who starts against Everton next week will hopefully do a good job, whoever that is. I'm positive Mourinho doesn't have major - if any - complaints about Oscar right now. He'll choose the best system, the best players and hopefully we win. I just hope Oscar - as well as our other players - keep progressing, playing better and making us competitive. This thread sucks because it almost feels like some here want him to fail or rejoice in his bad moments. It's a shame. I don't expect everyone to understand something so basic though. It seems common sense isn't that common after all.

Yes, we have a striker! Two matches, two goals, great contributions in both matches in general.He was tackling the heck out of Leicester winger (or FB) in the second when we were already ahead in the scoreline, near the corner flag. This man is just invaluable for us. He's great and he gives everything. I don't care if he tries to fuck his sister-in-laws, he's a boss.

someone's been happy to see the King back. Actually someone's been happy all the second half. I loved all Roman takes. He's such an awkward, nearly embarrassing fanboy watching our matches (although it could be he was happy to have finally signed a striker that scores and was actually clapping Costa He probably doesn't even remember Torres is part of the squad now). edit: who won the MOTM by BPL? I never know where to find out this information... thanks in advance.

I think I'll stick with Twitter for today. This forum's been toxic today

As I said I haven't watched the first half, but can't people let it go? Can't people cut the team some slack? Courtois, Eden and especially Oscar, Schurrle and then Ramires and Willian have been back training for just a few weeks. The team is still shaping up, we're changing tactics, new players are settling and we've been winning the matches convincingly. That's why I said in the Burnley thread that in the first few weeks all I cared about were the results. We have scored 5 goals in two matches, we kept a CS today, the players are working their socks in the pitch, and the results are there, two comfortable wins, even if the first half was as bad as you keep saying (I know whose opinion to trust and whose to ignore though). Give it time, we have a striker, I think our three AM's and then Willian did a great job in the second half, we will progress but it needs time. I know it's hard for the Mc Donalds' generation to understand that sometimes you need to wait things, but well, that's life, the earlier you get used to it, the better for you.

I didn't watch the first, but it seems like general consensus for some is: fuck what he did well, let's crucify him for what he did wrong. I suppose we played an amazing football in the first too... wasn't that the case? Let's blame the weak link of the team. Better yet, let's blame José for thinking Oscar is one of his key players. He must be on drugs. Or be Brazilian inside...

sometimes it feels he plays for Arsenal, Spurs, City given how much people want to make him look bad or worse. I don't get it.

I saw some HT stats on Squawka's twitter and it was like 8 clearances, 100% tackles one, 1 interception and another 100% stat. The skipper is amazing. Captain, Leader, Legend. Shutting me up for my concerns that maybe he was physically in a descend. Hail the captain. edit: 100% headers won was the other stat.

and of course that's what some here will decide to pay attention to. I didn't watch the first, but I read a few people saying a lot or mainly all players were uninspired. So why celebrate him being lively in the second if we can criticize him for the first, right?

Unbelievable. He's been our best player in the season's two matches. He's been the one that was superb both matches and his contributions in the attack are awesome and he's a beast in the defense as well. Such a great player! Amazing, amazing, amazing. I really love Iva - o mito - and it makes my heart burst in joy to see him playing his best football in a while right now. Hope he carries it on for all the season, but there's no way this man is leaving the starting eleven. He's been fantastic and some more.

Where are the usual posters of this thread now? On that's right when a player of this team, supposedly THEIR TEAM has a good match, they go away. Always like this. Anyway, only watched the second half and he played like a 10 for a few streaks. He was involved in the attack, he was positioning himself in the final third, getting involved. And that without giving up on one moment of restless high-pressing, tackling, marking. He's back giving everything he has in the matches. And he's gaining form again. And we all should be happy because he's a Chelsea player, but I know some won't be. I don't give a fuck though. Keep it up, Oscar! We need him, he's one of the key players in this system and his contributions, whether direct or indirect, are massive to the team's balance and today he really played like an AM, showed some creativity and his passing was much better. All those things are known for a while, let's hope he keeps the trend and gains some consistency. He's coming at age, approaching his peak and I think he's going to have a brilliant career for Chelsea because he's not the profile of player that would leave for money, for status of playing for X or Y team. He's ours for as long as we want him and I hope we make it a decade. #fangirl

my vote (Oscar) and my observations are based solely in the second. I think Oscar was amazing both offensively and defensively. There are a few tackles in our final third and in theirs where he was absolutely amazing. Didn't let go, insisted, fought and won the ball (in addition to that ridiculous play where the cunt-official called a foul). Some amazing passes by him as well, that shoot on the wood should have entered to make him justice. Ivanovic could easily have been chosen by me too, he's been immense in this start of the season and Azpili has been underwhelming, which is why I'm waiting anxiously for Luís to get a chance. Yeah, Cesar was immense for us last season. But this is present time and I think he isn't nearly as good as he's been. The best feeling in the world about a football team is having a striker. 'Nuff said. Willian was amazing while he was in the match. I would have brought him for Schurrle and I wouldn't have subbed Oscar, but it's early days and maybe it was more a physical thing than anything else behind Mourinho's choices. It's so nice to watch Didier at the Bridge. Actually nice doesn't start to cover it, it's an amazing feeling. Courtois is world class, he's going to be the best goalie in the world this season already. He's been amazing. As much as I love Cech, there's no comparison. And if in the first match I had distribution complaints about him (not exactly complaints as it was his first official match for us, but it made me wrinkle my nose), today he was amazing. He roofed a lot of balls against Burnley, but today he used his hands and started a few of our attacks that way. As I said, can't say anything about the first half, but the second was incredible. And I predicted the 2-0

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Matic has been making a few atypical mistakes here...

I didn't watch the first - so maybe that's because the team was bleh, but this second half we've been insanely good

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I'm loving all the Abramovich takes

fuck yes, Hazard

come on, Chels, another goal. A Diego brace would be nice