Clevemayer

same talk as ever and for this one thinnking mikel should be sold on 25 Mio, a big LoL :lolwave: but to be serious I'm a bit afraid of this dilemma, cause carlo has shown he has no faith... is Mikel currently better than Ramires = No Lamps? = Yes than Ess? = Yes so he has a point if he really thinks about leaving...

I have to say that bertrand is way ahead of PvA especially ufter his not so impressive start at Leicester. Bertrand for me ist the only successor for ash, he really looks like he can do very good things, sadly the youth has fallen down the peckingorder with so many big-guns available again...

I can fully agree, Ess and Lamps are caught too far up front many many times. the flat-midfield isn't the way to play a modern game but at least carlo has some success with it... Essien seems like he have lost his defensive mind completely and lamps was never a defensive midfielder...

great match missed this kind of performances so much, any updates on mikels injury? thought essien was poor in the first half, as was lampard but both rose into old heights but malouda and anleka have been generally poor, good game from torres Luiz MotM and drogs wonderfull to see him like that... zhirkov should definitly start ahead of malouda in the next game he was looking extremly well...

oh thanks but our fans will never recognise mikel, he was even blamed for the everton game, despite not losing a single battle in midfield... our fans are pathetic...

what is this post about? I'm lost a bit :unsure:

to be honest we play like shit but they're worse... so nothing to cheer about...

anelka bossy and ess ar guaranteed a start according to ancelotti...

if we are all hones bertrand is in fact better than bertrand defensive wise and bombing forward... he looks much much more like ash... pva could be our own gareth bale imho...

godzola calm down and get you're facts right, most passes, most accurate passes, most passes forward as DM, most interceptions of the leage thats what we're talking about for a DEFENSIVE midfielder.... turn off you're troll modus and get real... as you state by you're self, Essien WAS Probably the best defensive minded central midfielder on this planet, but he has lost it, as hard as it sounds... and Ess was one of MY favourites so don't come here and talk about pundits what so ever... Mikel was alongside Cech player of the year for this club get real... two damages of you're crucial ligaments aren't easy its a wonder he's playing... so don't expect him to be the same he was any time... greetings...

sorry guys I will repeat we HAVE a strong midfield but carlo don't knows how to put the right team out there and Kostas Post plus Styles posts are the only one I would put my autograph under any time, absolutly spot on, look Ramires = Speed dynamic stamnia, shooting, good passing and vision Mikel = strong, sublime technique and ball shielding, superb passing great vision, Mc Eachran = superb technique, can skin anybody on his day, wounderfull passing, wounderful vision this for a 4-3-3 and if kakuta develops the right way like what we could see in his first cameo where he was a wounderful player playing in the hole (10) they can easily play the diamond thats it, thats a pretty strong midfield and I belive with this guy we could achieve much more than with : Anelka out of form, Malouda out of form, Lamps out of form, drogs with malaira, so for any point you need we have one sometimes two in midfield strength speed vision passing workrate technique and some shooting (Ramires seems to have developed pretty fast in that area ind seems miles ahead of Ess right now) the only problems we have is our manager and our bench, no players there that can replace them AND and this is a BIG AND our Attack, there is no body moving up there, creating nothing and dont do any clever runs, hope torres can put that right... I'm playing football and watching football for 14 years now and playing in the midfield I can tell you, you can be as good as you want to be but if that guys in front of you dont make themselves available, dont run into you're passes, dont have any clue where they have to go and where you will pass to, you will look like a clueless wanker... I'll got as far as this, put Mikel and Josh in that Barcelona team plus ramires , they will be known as the best midfielders on this planet in a very short period of time lets say two further years... oh and for that ones complaining about ou're midfields lack of technique and vision: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxdbUXeS37g&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf56xfUoLdA&feature=related

never say never but marin is nothing more than a decent bundesliga dribbler, he wouldn't do it here, wrong decision makeing, overtakeing it, trys tso mutch too often sanchez is millions of years ahead of him...

oh right fulham, how dare could we forget about our recent success with this expirienced players out there... sry our fault...

the worst thing ist, that from carlo's reaction you can see that everythings seems like it was the way I'm thinking about how on earth can he think this? read the bold-lines:

@Esk sry Esk I cant agree, I think our best midfield right now is this one: ----------------Mikel ----Ramires-----------Josh (Lamps in 4-1-2-1) -------------(Josh in 4-1-2-1) and all of those three midfielder have shown pretty good outings for us this season, whilst Mikel has had 2 or three bad games the whole season, its right Lamps is over it, as is nic, and seemingly Drogs Malouda and Ess (he has ben awful despite one game after his red card).... this midfield has everything you want, speed and dynamism (Ramy), Strength (mikel), technique (mikel/Josh) and very very good passers (Mikel/Josh) its all about Carlo if you ask me, Lamps should be our own Giggs like drogs and Malouda, Anelka, Ferreira, Hilario and Kalou should be sold and Hazard/Pastore/Dembele (2 out of this three) should be brought in plus sanchez, like BLion said, he is a wonderfull right winger.... thats the best solution I can see right now...

thats why i said dembele and hazard or pastore are needed, two out of this three players... i told everybody dembele would be great for our midfield two years ago, nobody belived me, so let fullham grab him for 7 MIO POUNDS

I think we do we can play all this options --------------------Mikel/Ramy/Essien----------------------- ---Ramy/Josh/Essien------------------------Lamps/Josh/Zhirkov (and for diamond) -----------------------josh/Lamps/Zhirkov/Malouda---------------- as for the flat midfield three ---Ramy/Josh/Essien------------Josh/Lamps------------Lamps/Josh/Zhirkov we need two additions at all, Dembele and Hazard or Pastore, thats it.

our midfield WOULD be good enough like this: -------------------Mikel/Ramires--------------------------------- Ramires/Essien----Josh/Lamps--------Lamps/Zhirkov

So guys this can't be true, if anybody of you have learnt to know me in the last couple of years, than you will know me for being one of the last persons who want to sack the manager, but if the manager isn't responsible for a whole squad, I repeat, a WHOLE squad out of form then I will tell you, yes he is, he is, he is and he is! If you want to, you can find reasons and excuses for anything that happens, even for Hitler! You could tell us he was a poor poor little old man who didn't know what he was doing and didn't ment to kill millions of people, but the bottom line is, he was a sick bastard who exactly KNEW what he was doing. Sometimes when I read these posts with the whole "Carlo isn't responsible for the players on the field"-shit I really doubt my knowing about the tasks of a football manager. First of all: A manager of a football team has a staff behind him but he has to watch a game closely and see any weak links of his team. After this he goes to his staff and tells them which shit they've got to get sorted out is it passing the ball quicker, is it his technical ability, is it his stamina, is it his heading, is it shooting, is it decision making, in short terms, every fu**ing single weak point of a player has to be sorted out through Carlo, telling his staff, which training is needed, than he has to take a close look in training. If Carlo discovers that the player hasn't worked enough in the training, he has to take a place on the bench, if not he has to go to the stands, simple as that. Note Carlo has to discover weak links and communicate them to his staff Second: Carlo has to instill the winning mentality into his players. This willingness to get his foot on the last ball for the last shot in the last minute of the match, this will to push the ball behind the line with every part of his body. The players must have the will to win every Mickey Mouse-Cup or Milkiway-Cup on this Planet, the only possible outcome of a match in the heads of a player must be a win, nothing else, like Guss, Mou and even the players themselves, when we in a fact had no manager (Grant-Era), did. Note Carlo has to instill winning mentality Third: Carlo has to give his players Hunger. These kinds of hunger to bite, scratch, tackle and fight for every inch of ground on the Field. This kind of hunger you need against "big" teams (Real, Barca, Manbuh, Liversum…) to get all over them and smile at them when they don't find any space, take them every space to breath, like Guus did with Mikel when he ALONE owned the whole Barca midfield, or when Essien absolutely destroyed Xavi in the second leg. This kind of hunger for winning, for two footed tackles in the box, no fears no respect for anybody. Note Carlo has to instill Hunger and determination Fourth: Carlo has to have the guts, to place any player on the bench or in the stands. He has to select the team and is responsible for the players on the field, if even fans who have no clue about the football world know better than Carlo which player doesn't justify his selection than something is wrong. I would take Sala or Mellis over Malouda and Essien any day, because at least, they would give it their all! Note Carlo must be brave enough to leave ALL stars on the bench if needed Let's take a look on all this points: 1st discover weak links and communicate them to the staff, does Carlo? NO, if there was one or two players not fit and sharp you could say, OK the player is a bitch and don't gets his shit sorted out, but a WHOLE squad out of form talks for itself 2nd Instill winning mentality, does Carlo? NO, in fact we look like a team that is happy not to lose and try to avoid defeat 3rd Instill Hunger and determination, does Carlo? NO, just look at our players, we look like puppies with no teeth in our jaws, a disgrace to Denis wise and our former Self (Terry, Drogs, Lamps, Riccy, Maka, Zola all fighting pit bulls on the field) 4th Brave enough to leave players out of form on the Bench, does Carlo? NO, if you've taken a look for the last four months you will know why I'm not trying to tell you that Carlo isn't CAPABLE of doing this or not TRYING to do this, but it seems like it won't work for him, not here and not with us, this was what I've told 2 years ago and it has come true a NIGHTMARE for me!

if the next line up isn't this one we will surely know carlo is fucking clueless: cech bane----luiz----terry---any other leftback despite ash give bertrand a fucking chance --------------------------mikel -----ramires----------Josh----------------------Lamps ----------------------------------Torres -------------------Drogba

so this is the great midfield of ramires-essien-lamps that everyone wants us to play, intresting to see how good it has worked... any body who finds some irony in this post can keep it fucking DISGRACE!!!

^+1 superb Madmax this is exactly what I'm regarding as our strongest line-up right now may be drop anelka and get torres there because I think anelka is worse than Drogs right now (I know this sounds impossible but its like that) with josh comeing on for franky every now and then for about 30 - 45 Min. :goodpost:

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Players out: Ferreira, Hilario, Zhirkov, Kalou, Anelka that makes five and thats the most possible numers right players wrong

Gael Kakuta (Sub) Could have scored a debut goal. Showed good vision in his 20 minutes on the pitch 6 And as for Kakuta: “He’s now a part of this team, so he deserves the chance to come in and establish himself, and tonight he showed what he can do. He came in and did so well. He didn’t disappoint anybody so it was a good introduction to the team and we’re all happy with him.” Read more: «link» C'mon GAEL