Clevemayer

Likdé you're post but with all this No? in it I saw Louis defines infront of me... no... uhh... uhmmmm... hahahaha... just kidding...

thats what mikel needs, competition... ake was playing well, really nice match of him, but I now exactly how over the moon we've been with josh against Newcastle... and I rate them higher than boro... but nontheless... Chalobah is great too, Ake is more of an terry like defender, composed and a good feet but still a defender... we will see, Drogs was a LB...

I fuck'n can't belive how ramires does commit this stupid fouls again and again?...

get in there... pretty much luck... but hey I'll take anything

what are lollichon and chech training? get you're leg as high as a ballerina?... did he hit even one ball propperly?

Ake MotM so far

thought I was the only one to hear...

I don't want to be offending but guys from USA, plz get some propper commentators this is not American Football nor baseball... that foxcommentators get me annoied...

we're gett'n naild around our 16 yard box by boro... lol... I thoght TEY would park the bus... that days seem gone long ago... :facepalm:

Is it me or looks ferreira just like nearly 10 years before when he just joined... that ladykiller that he is hahahahha...

LoL I already see us loosing... wtf are ghis guys doing you act like were actually play'n well.. wtf am i at an parallel universe?

OK wtf this is Borough?...

don't now whom this benayoun guy is... LoL, I thought that secret agent Rafa was a joke but now he plays Benayoun he always refused to play for liverpool on whatever good run he was plus he is on Twitter, this MUST be true... anyways good he rests the guys surprised about Ake... thought he was always well composed at CB... but we eill see...

I personally do honestly belive we HAVE to do something on this position, but not only there, frome the back to the front you have a declineing Quality, not Footbalwise but Positionwise. You need 2 kind of players in a double Pivot and we have only one in Mikel and Romeu and that's the point where my opinion differs from others. Romeu and Mikel are both classic DMs but with different Attribute to they're game. Mikel is safe on the ball, has a good vision good physique and his passing is defo second to none, he has all ranges of passes but doesnt live up to them, if this is his fault or the fault of our attack is another point to discuss about. The only passing he lacks is maybe that deadly ball played through the defenses what he does very seldom, you can see them by Gündogan, Xavi etc. but this isn't what he is expected to do. On the other hand you have Romeu whom is sadly injured but isn't as composed as Mikel in any manner, what he has is his stamnia and his drive to get a tackle in and run at players this is sometimes a joy to watch but sometimes he plays stupid passes, risky ones that fail to be placed where they're aimed at, this is big disatvantage on his account to me. For me the bigger Problem is that creative Counterpart that you need there, you need someone like Xavi, Gündogan ALONG one of the other both mentioned and not to replace them. We are left outnumbered and Ramires and Lampard just dont have the ability to play alongside a pure DM, watch at Khedira and Alonso they played this nearly to perfection when it was running for them, xabi was the destroyer with a wide range of passing and Khedira was a slightly bit more creative haveing a go at the goal here and then and driveing forward, this is what we need the creative part of the DM and this is not MIKELs or ROMEUs fault, thats the point and if ppl just say, oh yeah Ramires cant stop the ball and is an awfull footballer but he runs 24 hours if needed, oh yeah Lampard is leaving our DM exploited and doesen't recive the balls doesn't influence the game in an creative manner but hey hes a legend it must be Mikels fault or what? Clearly no, Mikel or Romeu, which one is needed for to play is to be decided game by game imho, both need an creative player alongside them so Mikel can do what he does best and retain possesion, close channels down get his creative Partner whom isnt on the edge of the box of you're opposition side when you've just retained the ball against 3 Attacking opponents and want to get the pressure lowred with an pass to somebody close to you whom has an better position, hee needs one that he can play with. Mikel has class and he has shown it many occasions but for me he is especially in this double pivot very harsh critisized, because it si MAiNLY (not in every aspect) not his fault. Ramires cant receive the ball and drive it forward with creativity, because he plain isn't creative. Lamps... well he may have the reativity but just isn't desceplined enough, I was pray'n for modric but we didn't get him, this is what we need. If you think about replaceing Mikel with another DM what will you win, if his counterpart isn't existend and if the Attackers don't move so you can get you're biggest strengths (long range balls and triangle passes) played out?

Thats a good post, thats what I have felt very often and I think there is no understanding between our pivot...

Is he at that Tapas bar near SB? is it possible? Been there with my wife 2 years ago One day after that Arsenal win, was sitting MHS-lower What a Strike that was by Alex... will never forget that... its pretty much looks like there

welcome over here...

And like we've seen he has that range of long balls I don't understand why he doesn't do it, if its the coaches advice? Mikel was praised from mourinho for his long passes saying he is incredible play'n forty meter passes inchperfekt... look at his pass from our own half to mata against city... and many others he does from time to time... he cand o it and thats what I'm always reffering to when I say all he needs is to get his ass kicked... he always gets praises from the managers seemingly... I would get an very good DM he could have competition with... He shoots as hard as an ochs just look at some of his shots he does... e. g. his shots against the crossbar or which go inches wide... and he doesn't do this, I just don't know why... because I think he can be a real addet threat on goal if he does this... nontheless he is not the best thing since sliced bread but so is neither DM I can see at the moment... The only thing that annoys me from time to time is his work ethic, if it wasn't for his perfect sence to close play down and intercept attacks I would kill him, he's not a player to track back very often... I was very surprised and pleased when he yesterday tracked the whole pitch back to nick the ball off agüero I think it was him... in the 16 yard box 2 times... so he has his flaws but it's nothing he can't do... he just doesn't do it...

No we mean Mourinho whom all refert to as the greatest one this club has seen ever. we refer to Ancelotti whom called Mikel the only player he would compare to himself whilst playing in Europe and whom won the double (Ancelotti was not a bad player if I should mention this to you) we refer to Hiddink whom played Mikel in crucial games as theaway leg in Camp Nou we refer to Wilkins who gave mikel massiv credit when he was assistant and yeah they all get sacked or left us but what has this to do with mikel? I hold the players as a group in regret for this especially some senior members... there you go again... Mikel is at fault that every good manager we had was sacked... But as an fan whom came over here when ballack did so I dont expect any better from... seriously...

No I was refering to OTHERS not you mate on this thread, I can fully live with you're opinion because this is not a bashing this an opinion seemingly based on accepting he is good enough fo the squad but not you're first choice...

Lol were slipping because mikel Said so fuck Yeah he die so whilst playn at ACON hahahahajajaha can't stop

I m concerned youve brought up The Luiz comparison with Torres... Further it is The Sense of such a playertopic to discuss a Player and this includes compareing hin to any Other

This is an opinion i can live with but and youre welcome but just calling a Player Shit and Not Worth a place on a biased opinion makes me feel sick because you can clearly See where it comes from

OH yeah with tiote its about the team and with Mikel its about.... him? get Serious its ALWAYS about the team you act like a morron... nicethat you can mention the team as a whole when its about... well when its about a player you like and not Mikel... ot of them all you named Terry is Injured and whe have Cahill and Luiz... so what? and Ash and Chech I accept but does it help Cabaye and Tiote if they're both very good players if the rest is shit?... ah I think I know the answer... NO... Brana is not like brana anymore get real... dont know what it is with him sorry don't use excuses ... because that argument of the team being shit is not allowed for mikel it hasn't to be allowed for anybody else... this is you're fault not mine... you've startet argueing like that...