Rubber bullets

Particularly with the fact that the players who have most of the player power are the ones ho will only respect Jose (who was the one that started this player power problem). So hiring him would mean that players who are past it and a toxic infleunce would be rewarded.

So even though Lampard has been egotistical, selfish and downright disrespectful not just to AVB, but to the fans (who some have their mouths firmly down his cock they get offended when anyone gives constructful criticis on him) by playing like he could not give a damn just to make a point, we should keep him on just becuase others might not be as good. But even then, lets not make the number of goals he scored (3 were penalties and one was a complete fluke) mask over the fact as a midfielder he is one of the most slow, uncreative players we have. Some people act as if Raul has no legs, he may not score goals and might not be able to tackle well. But atleast his a bit quicker, has more drive and can adapt to different formations and tactics. Its pathetic that Lampard can only play in a 4-3-3 that uses the tactics Jose uses. Its lik his a one-dimensional player.

With the Merieles thing. I honestly would play him over Lampard every day of the week Simply becuase he will try his hardest give it all, not sulk around, play like he wants tto be somewhere else or try and create mutiny against a manager for dropping him.

That's fine Even though I think there is horrible player power culture in the dressing room and it needs to be dealt with by kicking out the players who are part of the culture in the summer. The board and Roman have to take a llot of the blame for lettingg it grow and become what it is. When you have the owner talking to the players on mobile phones frequently, giving them holidays on their yacht and even officiating their weddings (http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/blog/dirty-tackle/post/roman-abramovich-reportedly-officiated-drogbas-wedding?urn=sow-wp2558) then your just asking for trouble. Basically Mourinho started it by giving them the whole untouchables crap, Roman let it grew and AVB did not get rid of at the beggining even though he had the resources to do it.

Ok, but are you willing to accept that a lot of the players (who apparently are experienced professionals who love the club also need to be shipped out? Or are they all innocent who should never be talked about negativly and never take any of the blame

To him, the players are never responsible, has it ever come across to some people who blame it all on the manager that maybe its actually that we have a squad full of either over the hill past it crybabies, others who would never get you even in the top 4 with only a few quality players. Hey some would argue that the full potential of our squad is fucking lucky to get 5th!

And watching Lampard and others acting like a complete arsehole due to their need to be selfish and rub their ego, all the while giving two fingers to the fans who have given him and others unconditional support and spent time and oney following them is making me go off from watching football knowing that these same players might be here next season. Fans have a right to let out anger knowing that there support has been taking for granted and have been basically told to go fuck themselves.

Possible, although expect people (particularly the ones on The Shed End forum and CFCnet) who are adament that the old guard have done nothing wrong and would never try and create mutiny to latch on to this story and pronounce it as fact. Seriously the other two forums have so manny people in denial that the players are the problems and even say that AVB should have licked theirr asses and inflate their ego.

Well following that post, I'm going to risk facing a huge wrath by posting an article from the Sun that uses the classic "insider" source, but fuck it with the circus that is going on... http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4172707/Blues-stars-hate-Di-Matteo-even-more.html Blues stars hate Di Matteo even more

I siad that AVB will probably try and be their best friend and basically suck up t them in order to prevent more mutiny, but coming across this article in the Telegraph brought up some interesting statements http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/9122665/Chelseas-new-caretaker-Roberto-di-Matteo-has-respectable-track-record-on-which-to-to-fall-back.html

Some people are in a great deal of denial. Who are desperate to cling on to this image that so called "legends" are honest saints who would never do a thing wrong, act like a twat and always put the club and manager before them. Pfft!

I agree with Badboy, I like to call it the Ancelotti way when the manager tries to be best buds with the players but would never try to put them in there place.

Rumors on twitter that the board wants to get David Moyes. But like I said, just rumours.

Even though I'm angry about the AVB sacking. I hope to god that the Daily Mail actually are true for once. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2110222/Andre-Villas-Boas-sacked--Roman-Abramovich-blames-players.html

And pretty soon the players that he trusts are going to destroy the work he has done

Fuck it, lets get Van Basten, he will give them an absolute bollocking and would not let them take control. Someone needs to come and show them they are not the club, hopefully by chucking them out of the club.

My fear is that in order to stop the players turning against him he will just play 4-3-3 with Terry, Cole Lampard, Malouda and Drogba as the core, no matter how bad they play. But yet if they then decide to play well (which would make them even more disgraceful) and get a 4th spot, then when the next manager comes in we don't have an overhaul AGAIN, and we keep the same players, who will let us ddown again. Its like a never ending circus.

Becuae it might put rationality back into the squad. It may be the only way that we stop this circus from going on and on. And the biggest clowns of this circus are the players. The way we are going these players will never leave and with a cabal of the old guard who have big egos that makes them think they run the club and can do what they want. We will continue this route of short instant gratification that will be a disaster (if its not already a disaster). The likes of Lampard and Cole are destroying the club with in. And if we don't get rid of them and continue to let it have there way we may never be able to recover to be a top club anymore.

We know that Robbo (to make sure the old guard turn on him aswell) will play every match with a 4-3-3 with Terry, Lampard and Drogba as the core, no matter how bad they play (although I wexepect they will improve now that tey have finally got rid of AVB)

The moment Lampard starts undermining the manager and plays like he could not give a fuck and thinks he runs the club, he is giving two fingers to the fans and saying "I could not give a shit about you, I'm doing what is in my self interest". So fuck youu Lampard.

To me Wilkins seems to never want to critisize the players. To him they can do no wrong.

I came to the club becuase of players like Zola and good old Jimmy. Players who certanly don't have big inflated egos or were just here becuase of the memories of Jose Atleast in Ranieri we played with passion and character. You felt proud to support these players.

A cunting twat

I honestly want us to lose all of our games just to show them that its the players.

I really hope now we completly flunk the rest of the season and end up 10th.