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  1. OK, forget the number 40 million. Since you seem to rate Luiz so low, how do you justify your statement that we can get two good defenders from Luiz sale. According to you Hummels is superior to Luiz. So when we sell Luiz for X million and approach Dortmund, will they sell Hummels for less than what we sold an "inferior" player? They are a player database website. They also assign some random current values to the players. The numbers are mostly bullshit as they hardly consider the length of contract that is remaining and other such stuff. My advise: don't bother with them.
  2. and nigerians who keep promoting mikel. The reason is that a lot of these fans are chelsea supporters because of these players only.
  3. I dont get these people who say that hummels just had a bad season. Good players don't go one full season in bad form unless there is an injury involved or they are adjusting to a new league.
  4. So last season I OBSERVED that chelsea were performing better when Mikel did not play. I back that up with stats that Chelsea won fewer games with Mikel Chelsea lost more games with Mikel Chelsea scored fewer goals with Mikel Chelsea conceded more goals with Mikel But you are right, they are clearly manipulated. Regarding that article by SeB, are you this naive not to understand that our football has evolved. We no longer have Drogba upfront. Over the past two summers, we have brought in players like Mata, Oscar, Hazard. The defending with 10 men behind the ball days are over at Chelsea. That article is a complete hogwash in the present context, and frankly having read so many of your posts on this forum, I dont think you have the ability to understand this bit. and regarding Jose selling Mikel, I have always maintained that we won't get offers for Mikel and eventually that has been the case. Why would another top club take such a liability at their place. Galtasaray assistant manager, Hasan Sas denied all media reports and said they were never in for Mikel, it was just Mikel's agent talk. Similarly when he was linked to Trabzonspor, their president said the same thing. Any person with half a brain knows and understand that but I agree expecting that much from you is a tall order. and YES I agree that Mikel was a key player last year. His ABSENCE due to "injury" towards the end of the season helped us build and maintain a winning momentum that got us the third place and also the Europa league.
  5. Do you have memory issues? That coaches argument was countered a few pages back.
  6. "I would still expect us to win those games with Luiz or Mikel" Unfortunately, football does not work on how YOU think. It is played on the field and the results of last year seem to be exactly opposite to how YOU think. These variables you listed down, they average up over a period and a season is long enough. You come up with arguments like 1. "Mikel is good at defending the back four" I disagree and back my statement with the fact that we conceded 1.53 goals per game when Mikel started last season vs 0.89 goals when he did not start. Surely, I have a stronger argument. 2. "Mikel lets our attacking players to concentrate on their strengths and hence benefits the team" I disagree and back my statement with the fact that we scored 1.6 goals per game when Mikel started last season vs 2.51 goals per game when he did not start. Surely, I have a stronger argument 3. "Mikel played games against tougher opposition " I tell you that the average league standings of our PL opponents when Mikel started was 10.3 vs 11.5 when he did not start. That is not a big enough difference surely? 4. "Mikel has superior positional sense, is strong physically" That is the most subjective thing you can say about a player. Even if I were to agree with you (which I don't), good positional awareness, physical strengths are not the end game unless you use those qualities to add to your performance on the pitch. Considering the fact that Chelsea win more games when mikel does not start. Chelsea lose fewer games when mikel does not start Chelsea score more goals when mikel does not start Chelsea concede fewer goals when mikel does not start He sure as hell is not using those qualities which you think he has. You guys have not even a single solid reason, all hot air.
  7. And hummels is also known to have brainfarts that most cite as the reason to get rid of luiz.
  8. How slow are you?? You put forward the statement that " the games we won with Luiz in DM, we would have won them otherwise". I gave you counter examples. Reg. your other point, Comparison is useful when made between two sets with substantial and comparable data points. Like 32 games vs 37 games Not Messi starting 55 games vs missing 5 games Regular GK starting 55 games vs 2nd GK starting 3 games @meetdoscar: That claude makelele defense is getting old. Reg. your statement that why dont we play ramires n lampard out of position, we did that last year and the results were much better. Keep up.
  9. more on Luiz. With Luiz in midfield, we beat Southampton 5-1 in FA cup. That incidentally was our only win over the saints in 3 meetings last season. The other two games where Luiz did not play in midfield, we lost 1 and drew the other. Our only win against Swansea came when Luiz played in midfield in the PL home game. Choulo19, you need to work harder for your counter examples.
  10. Why are you shifting goalposts now from mikel to luiz? Once again, since it has to be told to you a 100 times for your brain to process, here is the gist of it: Luiz started a lot of his games in midfield vs non-top level teams. Chelsea did well in those games => Luiz was an asset in midfield whenever given an opportunity, however he is yet to be tested vs top teams. This does not give anybody the liberty to say that "luiz in midfield experiment failed". Anybody saying that needs to learn things about logical conclusions and interpretations. one more point, the 19 games that Mikel started for us in PL last season, the average league position of our opposition was 10.3 the 19 games that Mikel did not start for us in PL last season, the average league position of our opposition was 11.5 That is not a very big difference in difficulty level of opposition.
  11. Are you actually this daft? Messi playa in about 55 games n misses 5-10 games per season. A regular gk starts 90-95% games while 2nd gk starts abt 5%. mikel started 32 and missed 37 in last season. A person with half a brain will know the difference between these two scenarios.
  12. With his well published knee problems, demba ba was not gonna play more than 1 game a week. He started 17 games in 19 weeks after signing for us. Please dont use the excuse that he was not starting regularly.
  13. nice bit of back patting going on between choulo19 and mufassir. If your team loses more games when you start, your team concedes more goals when you start then I am afraid that CDM tag is a bit of a misnomer.
  14. Nail head. Similar issues have cropped up whenever there were talks of oscar playing in a withdrawn position, luiz playing in midfield etc.
  15. This coming from a man who said oscar cant tackle. Completely predictable. One more thread where choulo19 has embarrassed himself.
  16. I could explain you the logical fallacy in your argument but I think in your best interest, I should let you find it out on your own.
  17. How did you reach at that conclusion? That is some comprehension skills you got there, mate. Edit: He was such a liability that we won only 12 of the 15 games that he started for us in midfield.
  18. With wilshire's injury record, sorry no deal
  19. You mean point out how you could not even be consistent over two pages? You can continue your nonsense here.
  20. Is that supposed to make some sense? And you are the one to talk about reasons, after making this post Irony died a slow painful death
  21. Sadly no counter party available His PR team linked him with Trazbanspor, their President immediately denied that they were interested in him. His PR team linked him with Galatasaray, their assistant manager Hasan Sas came out to calm the rumours saying they are not interested in Mikel.
  22. You also claim to having watched Oscar last season and then came up with statements like Oscar can't tackle. Excuse us if we don't trust your observations and conclusions.
  23. There is going to be so much heartbreak next season. I hope for your sake, they put a camera on the bench so you can get your regular Mikel fix.
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