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We've had players who have done similar stuff and they've been key to our success. You know enough about our players to know what a weak argument it is you're making. He's a cock. Plenty of players are cocks. Anytime you want to talk about Rooney the footballer, I'm happy to.

GET THE FUCK IN YOU LEGEND!!!!

That's a bad injury for JT. Fuck.

Congrats Lamps. Great finish. Now let's get a second.

I'm a massive cunt and I know nothing about football.

Have we ever had a stupider player? Great enthusiasm but an absolute idiot.

Fucks sake mate. WAKE UP. It's 2013. Super Frankie doesn't seem to be Super Frankie anymore.

Put the pessimism aside for a few hours. Mourinho's arrival isn't contingent on CL football by all reports, and we're not even close to being the next Liverpool.

Do you know what. I think these young guys that Villa have got simply haven't got enough respect for people like Lampard and Terry and their 'experience'. Not once have they bothered to bow down in front of them and praise them. They've simply run past them. Fucking youth of today. Thankfully in the second half Benteke will realise that he's a young Belgian striker and he's simply not experienced enough to be playing this well.

Saying I told you so doesn't make me feel any better. Fucking twat. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: That was coming a mile off.

Fuck me Moses is having a mare. Defended him in the past and I think he's a good player, but today he's just not feeling it. Oscar please. And Rami's trying to get JT sent off.

Oscar Benayoun

That is a fucking red card for Benteke. You silly fat cunt Mason, if you booked him you saw it.

Moses off, Rami has to be taken off too.

If Lampard doesn't start tracking back a bit more, Rami is going to get sent off. Once again, we're losing the midfield battle. Lambert seems to be doing what Southampton did.

The cold, hard reality is that all football clubs have a bottom line now. Sorry if that's not the jumpers for goalposts myth people want to live in but you PAY someone for a ticket who is being PAID to do a job so you can see coaches who are PAID to coach players who are PAID to win trophies which come with prize MONEY. Samsung don't get plastered on our shirts because the Galaxy S4 is a good phone. They PAY for that too. The players really aren't the fragile, naive souls you're making them out to be. They know football has a bottom line. In fact I'm sure some of them are delighted that they'll be getting more exposure in foreign markets.

Two things. 1. Arsenal underinvested in their team, and the investments they made weren't good enough. Experience didn't really come into it. 2. We're talking about last season's success as a reason to keep JT around? His experience got him sent off in the second-leg of a semi-final not for a mistimed tackle, not even for a dangerous tackle but for kicking a player. Experience....kicks Sanchez....Experience.....kicks Sanchez. But I'm sure he was sending telepathic messages of encouragement to the team from the tunnel. And despite the photos, he didn't play in the final either. Experience is sometimes overrated.

That's not enough. You need to constantly promote yourself. Some people might say that it could've been scheduled at another time, but I'm not so sure that's true.

It's an exhibition match in the biggest media market in the world. That matters nowadays.

I don't disagree that he's a good pro in most regards but this bullshit about us becoming Arsenal shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what happened at Arsenal. They sold their better players and replaced them with people like Arteta, Podolski and Mertesacker - experienced players yes, but simply not good enough. WE AREN'T DOING THAT. And I'll also remind you that Terry, with all his experience, got sent off in our biggest game last night yet our team stood up together and won. They then went on and won the biggest game in this club's history without him. Times change.

And they get paid for that, but the money has to come from somewhere. The club isn't run on magic beans and happy thoughts.

You mean the friendlies in emerging markets....it's almost like he wants us to make money. smh

A few years ago you wouldn't get a single person arguing differently, but times change. If he isn't capable of the same things on the football pitch then you have to look at things like this, especially when he's coming to the end of his contract.

He's a CB. He'll probably always be a CB. He's also our best CB. He's only playing in midfield because we don't have anyone else to play alongside Rami and provide defensive rigidity (although he looked knackered against Spurs). His presence there is a matter of necessity and the guy has done a pretty good job to his credit. He is nowhere near as bad as some of the people criticising his performances suggest, but he's also not the second coming of Gattuso or Pirlo. He's a leader, a dependable presence being asked to do a slightly different job for his team.

The thing is I honestly don't know how good he is anymore. Maybe he's still the same JT and he'll have Benteke in his pocket today, or maybe he'll get skinned by Gabby. We won a Champions League without him. I don't know if he's as important as he once was. And I doubt anyone in the MLS would pay that much for him, especially with some of his character issues. Earning double what he'd probably get here has got to be a temptation.