Jcar92

We are always in transition because the managers keep getting fired... Agree that has to play, but not as the main player, senior od the team. Hazard is not playing worst because of the lack of Mata at his side. And i'm sorry to anyone that disagree... But i don't think that Hazard has the talent to be at Messi or C. Ronaldo class. He is a good player? Hell yes. But not at this class. Neymar may be the Man.

"Creating and scoring goals is nice and all, but". Awww man, fuck this shit. Look at this... "He has the technique, he may be creative, be good... But fuck, he doesn't defend" We are talking about the KEY PLAYER. He says that oscar don't play at the side for him do not have the responsability to came back after fullbacks... People are wanting players that came back rather than the talented ones...

Oscar is not that bad at orchestrating the play, and being creative... Its the other way around, he is good. Mata is better at it? He is(for now). But you are too caught in this matter that Mata is the only thing different from last year. We also have a different Manager... It is Mourinho now, and even with it, there is many things that can change it all. And you see... Everyone spoke bad of Mourinho for him not putting Casillas on the field, and even now, with other couch he still is out. We don't know what he see in the trainings and all.

LOL, you say that Everton game alone is a example that we play better with him, with the argument that everything went down after his substitution... And then later want to say that Basel game is a example that we should start him????? And WTF? We would not be in that situatution? When he came on we were winning! Anyway, i agree, i also think that Mata must be our playmaker and the man behind the striker(I would like to see Hazard, Mata, Willian and Lampard[Oscar DLP] changing position... but, meh, the coach is mourinho not me hahaha), Oscar is not ready to play there... for now(Because he is a DLP).

Dude, the players are the same... So what? I already saw teams that didnt change anything in the starter eleven and still had completely different ways of play. I'm sure that even you can remeber of situations like that, this without mention that our players are getting older and may not be in the same state of mind and physic like before. The national team of brazil is one example of this. The team that was with Felipão is not that different from what Mano Menezes tried... And everyone saw the difference. Main problem? For me is most like trying to put both together. And even if this is a problem, i still believe that is not what is making we lose... Let alone be one of our main problems.

But of course, one position in which both players are good is the only reason to why we're losing our games. Mata or Oscar is not our only problem.

WorkRateWorkRateWorkRate... For God's sake! People keep repeating it like it were the magical secret of the Beautiful Game. And they are playmakers! I would take talent over anything at any time. Brazil is having this fucking crisis for the lack of CAMs, problem that started with people preferring height over technique, strength rather than creativite... And now this even in Europe. Ok defense is important, but not as much to give that much advantage to the key player of the midfield. Pep even played Bayern with schweinsteiger, THIAGO and Kross. THIAGO coming from behind dammit. THIAGO. Ok, we have a differnt team, other style and all, they may not play that way in dangerous matchs, but we have people here speaking about workrate over talent on the player that must orchestrate plays, do the rhythm of the game and hold possession. Like it were the most important thing. By this logic we wouldn't play Ronaldinho Gaucho(at his best) for his lack of pressing, he does not place well in our Team. LOL. Why can't we have one player to not be responsible for defense? Again, as obvious by my avatar i like Oscar. But he is not absolute over Mata at CAM, he is not ready, at least for now and for me. Hell i even think that he shoudn't play as a no10 as i said before... For now i keep my idea that he is a DLP. Also, good to say that i'm not thinking that i'm the senior of truth and i may change my mind and believe in others truth's later. For the brazilians users: Desculpa amigos, esse rage com a pressão deve ser por passar o tempo todo vendo o Tite fazer todos os jogadores, do Gil até o Pato, Guerrero, Douclas e Romarinho... Voltando até a linha de fundo a todo momento! PQP não aguento mais essa porra! hahahahaaa

I also agree that he may be better suited to the 4-3-3 for leaving space for him to create and go up front to shoot, but not as the main playmaker Cam... I think it would be ideal for him to be the second man in the midfield, to give him liberty to press foward or behind, drop deep to create and come up front whenever he want.

Disagree, he may have a amazing work rate and be really good pressing up front... But i think its the other way around! In this game he may had helped in the pressure but i think that he struggled to lead the attack in the CAM position... His best moments were when he dropped deep to give flair to the game. In the big games we will need someone that can defend and orchestrate the game from behind... I really believe that player is Oscar and that his real position is DLP.I also believe that he can play as CAM... But with not his true best game, this, without count that we can play with Mata(our playmaker for 2 years) there.

Well, you must be understanding and forgive! I'm corinthiano, so i shall write wrong LOL

No, you got me wrong, I'm not talking about the goals that we conceded to them. I'm talkin about the play that David started passing the ball to Hazard.Edit: oh... I writed wrong! lol now i see hahahahaha I must just die lol

if i remember right, one of the 2 goals against Bayern started with one of his crazy runs in which he passed trough 2 defenders and made a long pass taking Bayern's lineback unprepared.

Funny to see this topic... Yesterday i read a news that a football player and a formar one were in a parley debating about the Brazilian football with the "big guys" of the nation confederation( president and vicepresident of the cbf, some club presidents, journalists and some lackeys of the Cbf). Before of the start of the debate, almost everyone was saying sweet things to the president trying to gain some points with him, to gain some dirty support later... Anyway, With nobody saying anything bad to him, in a place full of his allies it would seens that everything was perfect right? Well, we all know that football in Brazil is a mess, but if nobody say nothing, how would something change? How would someone of outside know? Its in that momment that entered the players that spoke of the problens of the nation football, leaving the others all angry and uncomfortable.I'm not saying that is the same situation here, but is not because its something that may leave others a little angry that one has to be excluded... Except, of course, if is a troll. I dont know everything that happens in this forum, so i can't say if someone is right or wrong here, but the idea that Rubber Bullets brought to us is a point to be made, i already saw that type of situation. We have to talk about this, with him being hypocrite or not. It seens to me that here is one of the best places to talk about football, and i want it to stay like that. A few things more: 1st I could stay all day talking about problens of Brazil, even thought there is so many things that i love in here. 2st: The real fans are the ones that have the lucidity to talk about the problems, even thought there may be someone talking about it a lot. Anyway, Sorry for the wall... And if someone disagree with my ideas, i respect your opinion. Hell, i may even change my mind with your arguments. Go Chelsea! Vai Corinthians!

Lol, everything was perfect until the bayern goal. José tactics were brilliant, Oscar was pressing like Maldini and the Catenaccio was the answer for the win. Dont get me wrong, is not that i agree or disagre of anything that i just wrote, but now, everyone is angry, we have to Go up front, lampard(!) is shit and our 11 in the game is all wrong. Lets believe guys!

Oh shit... Ziquei essa coisa!

I dont think that we having little possession is a sign that our midfield is lacking... Its just their style with pep.

Holy mother! Almost had a heart attackkk

Do you guys think that Oscar is playing bad?

Do you guys think that Oscar is playing bad?

Yeeeeaaaaah babyyyy!

Alright, Lets go Oscar! Lets screw these fockers!

pleeease, somebody has a link for me to watch with acestream? if you know, can explain to me how it work this shit?

More aggressive with his passes.

Before playing as a DLP, schweinsteiger played at the sides... Was he good? Of course. But not as monstruous as he is now. Even though Oscar can tackle and press being short i think that he needs to play more deeper to have more space and a little more time to think and orchestrate(he can do it! Or i hope so LOL) the game... Also, why do you guys think that he played better against UCL teams? Why would Di Matteo start him against Juve but not in the EPL? If you watch one game of the brazilian Serie A you will get it. The pace and the rhythm of the game in both championships are way slower than on the EPL matches... That's why England had so few Brazilian players on the field... If even europeam players struggle here in the first years... Imagine one comming direct from Brazil. Of course there is exceptions like Coutinho and Juninho(cousins) that take the fast rhythm of EPL all good at first try, but that is for being made just right for their way of playing. When Oscar just came from Brazil some people even said that he was made for La Liga and that we wold have to wait and give him time. Anyway, i'm starting to think that we have serious problems with Oscar... We might end up selling him and regreting later.

I don't know... I still ain't convinced with him... I hope that he can be more agressive with his game.