Jcar92

i respect your opinion all right. =DBut i disagree as him being a waste as DLP. Being there don't mean he can't go up front. Barbara, see Schweinsteiger, Lampard, Xavi or even Paulinho... They go up front with really danger... Assisting or scoring. Do you think that all those players are a waste there? Do they have the quality to do the Playmaker 10 role? Of course(less Paulinho), but they simply play their best there... Oscar drop deeper alone himself to take the play a lot, you could see this in the olimpics all the time. The DLP playmaker is a truly rare and important player... We have Mata, Hazard and KTB already for the Cam and winger positions. For me Brazil plays with the 4-2-3-1 with hulk and Neymar coming back and helping the midfield to create the play.

I know, by middle i meant between Neymar and Hulk. If you're talking about the other post, is that i think that he is a DLP(didnt had the training needed) and not a number 10 trequartista ( he can, but also have to adapt to play at his best there).

With the NT he is in the middle and still don't orchestrate as he could... He definitely has the vision and skills. Mourinho or him have to do something.

Just kidding dude, i got what you mean. I'm not talking about his work rate, about that i have no doubts, receiving little or a lot of balls he always run, passes and defend. Since the time where he stole Ganso's place he started to press high, in that game Mano made him press like never before where he tackled good balls that ended in really dangerous plays. I agree that he defend and press well, but not enough to play as a DLP, this, without count that the way to defend is different. Do you think that he would already be good to go pairing with L. Gustavo in a match against Spain? Or Bayern? I'm talking about big games where we will need him all around... In other games he can alreary boss the midfield playing deep.About his apearence in Brazil games on the CC, i disagree. Not that he played bad, he showed his guns at key moments that won matches, the problem is that he also disapeared a lot in the playmaking trequartista role. Felipão even tryed Neymar in the middle behind Fred with Oscar and Hulk on the sides... He does't show so much as he could and does when he plays deeper with more space where he receive the ball without being with his back to the goal. I agree to say that he has the talent and the physical conditions to take the role (both trequartista and DLP). But... Just not yet.

Mata what? Limited? Are you sure? ^^

Well, as obvious as it is by my avatar, i really like Oscar, but i always tought that he had the problem of disapearing in the middle of games... I follow him since by his times of São Paulo, at the moment i believed that he had that trouble for being a player that just came out of the youth squad, that here in Brazil the majority that goes to the principal team always tends to take little part of the plays on the matches, or by trying too hard to play "okay" rather than for the win or by little technique. But time passed, he matured and anybody could see that he had the personality and the talent to be a monster with key passes and decisive killer goals... But even then, he would still disapear a lot in his games, letting big gaps on midfield. Also he weren't one of those that would press the defense all the time, so i don't think that the lack of stamina is what transform him into a ghost. To me, after observing him and the brazilian football... He is just a result of a crise of "Maestros" (the number 10 key player, in the last years we had just Oscar, Coutinho, Ganso and... I don't know, Jadson?) that is happening in Brazil. We've had been giving priority to strong, skillfull fast players rather than the little technical passers that conduct, think and builds the game. For this lack the brazilians teams ends up playing with weak or out of position players, where i do think that the second case happens with Oscar. The only times that i saw him dominating and participating a lot in the matches were with the Brazil from Mano Menezes where he had the liberty to drop deep and lead the team from behind. It was amazing in some of those matches where he would turn the ball around and came up from behind. People say that he can't play as the deep lying playmaker for the lack of defensive power, other problem that i think that happens because of our wrong youth management for putting him in the wrong position and not showing him how to defend. Now It is said that if you want your own brazilian ofensive fullback you have to do like what was done with Wallace, Rafael and Fabio. You have to buy them while theyre young to teach them how to defend... And i think that we might have lost our chance with Oscar. Thanks God Mourinho is here and he can still work things up with him(really young), but i don't think that he is the true number 10 playmaker like Mata. Well, who knows, he may end up adapting himself to lead the play, but for now there is nothing but support that we can do, so lets just pray and hope for good football. =] Sorry for the wall of text.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f86d9NZCUU

If this team had connected... Why didn't it worked, WHY!?!? A lot of big images And we still had much more to put on the field

I watched him a lot in "Internacional from Porto Alegre". At the time that he played in Brazil, he was not a flop. Fast, smart and skilled. The videos from youtube show nothing of his skills. He could link really well with the midfield, he had a good kick and tech and he also would do plays that nobody expected. For not being tall or strong, he doesn't show, but he were a killer. Don't know now, he may have killed his talent playing in Ukraine... But Willian improved his skills alright, so... Who's knows? He may be a monster.

Oscar will be the boss again

I thought some times that he should go for other spaces or runs... Don't get me wrong, i'm enjoying his game, better than Torres hahaha!

Hey guys is it just me or Demba Ba is always behind of the centers? It seems to me that he is hiding himself... Always looking for the goal, but without finding the holes in defence. Don't know if i'm making any sense.

Caixa bank will not give to us money that they could use to make schoolls or hospitals... It's a money they would uso for marketing with or without us. We have the secong biggest crowd... It just normal that they would want to be our sponsors. São Paulo was also sponsored by a public bank. We got all those things because they didn't wanted São Paulo out of the World Cup. For some reasons they(fifa) think that Morumbi would not do. But in this case i do agree with you, in this case the money should go for another things. But this do not say anything about the squad on the field. agree.

The refs? They do mistakes to everyone! So we are dirty because they're weak refs that do mistakes? We can't be guilt because of them. Maybe we affect them with the pression that our crowd makes. But again, not our fault. I would agree if we did like Barça and Man U trying to make the refs our ally.

Oh come on! Everybody in Brazil is like that... and Corinthians won the fairplay game in Libertadores. That Team don't do that... This is just Emerson Sheik. And about us being dirty as Man U? You know that is bullshit.

Something like this

Dude, be cool.... I am here just to cheer for Chelsea. Its only a situation that is an exception... I am not here to troll. =]

i started to post here because i support chelsea from a long time. My first posts were always supporting Chelsea. And i said even in opposite views... This is the only time that i am at the other side. It is just like, if someone like Rmpr(member of the month) had the chance of seeing his brazilian team winning the CWC.

Good troll, i liked. But sorry guys. You can say anything you want, but in the end, you guys will always remember that you did loose to us. If you guys manage to be in CWC again, the fear of losing will be there, ant that will be our fault. That is why São Paulo and Internacional will always be there. And a lot knew that Looserpool lost there. Oh so Corinthians is just a South american? Good thought, continue like that.... Prepotent. It really doesn't matter to us, it was always like that and we already won what we wanted (even thought this is a shit tournament). Also, we're getting big here, so again, you can say anything to us. =]

CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD! WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE!!!!!

To him, Oscar going from Internacional to Chelsea playing world class is a lie. Thiago Silva and Pato from Brazil to Milan to play class is also a lie. Lucas Moura? Paulinho? Neymar? They're going to be another lies.

Well, don't know about the others but i particularly started to come here because i wanted to unite the useful with the pleasant, increasing my english at the same time that i support Chelsea. I've been cheering for the Blues since i was a child, the affection started with the Championships of PlayStation with my friends where i would always choose the likes of Lampard, Joe Cole, Robben and Terry to lead me to victory. :cfc: Of course, now that i have my Love trying to win the CWC, i became more present. But even before, my first posts were all about Chelse. =) Chelsea have now 4 brazilians... Is playing a offensive football with them and had massive support in the UCL for being the underdog... Also can't forget that Chelsea already had fans here. I don't think that our participation is the only point in this.

Duuude, why? WHY??Renanh, Just to make fun of us? Brazilians?? lol They just say what the fools supporters want to hear... Maybe the only one that can be better is Paulinho. Emerson also is good when at full potential... But even so, he isn't better than Hazard (well, maybe lol). Praying for everyone doing their best... Or better than that.

We may play with Romarinho! And if we go for Jorge Henry, lol He can attack alright! I can already see this shamefull bastard letting Ivanovic on the floor to make his goal with pure class *_* hahaha! TIte, please... Go for Romarinho or Martinez... PLEASE!! EDIT: Douglas is out, We are going with Jorge Henrique

Relax, i myself did a mistake there lol ^^