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I dont sound pissed, I sound serious. I do because Oscar is a very delicate matter and most of our fans are already criticizing him and saying he is a failure and not good enough. Oscar is not by any means ready or capable of taking Mata's starting position, but just because we have two good players at the same position it does not mean we must fuck with one of them just so they both get playing time. Barcelona dont do it with Fabregas/Xavi/Iniesta an ManCity dont do it with Aguero/Tevez/Dzeko. Oscar is a #10, but he can very much adapt to the pivot role. However, people cant even wait half a season, imagine 12-18 months so he can work on his body and new position. I doubt he would last 6 more months with the way things are going. I prefer Oscar playing 15-20 games a year where he should than 25-30 in stupid position and ocasions. It will be much more productive.

It will probably be the same deal, so you just kept your interest.

1. Just because you saw one pic it does not mean he was playing in that role, I can show 10 stupid pretty pics of Oscar and make him look #10 in Wednesday's game. Show me the whole game where I can see him playing as CENTRAL attacking mid for most of the time and I will accept he played as a n.10 against ManCity. (Just so you know, one of the first discussions I had with SeB was about Torres movement an how great they were, guess who was right now that we see a true striker? His pretty but useless and misleading pics were enough for some fangirls to jump on his bandwagon).2. Against some teams he did have his chance, but I am not telling you he had never ever had a chance, I am saying they are very rare and that they should not be enough to crave he aint good enough (atm) for the CAM spot (like you did). He is not Mata, but he does not need to be so wrongly used. You really want to judge a 21 year old who had 2 seasons in his whole career for having 1-2-3 true chances in 30 games? Seriously... 3. Are you really going to use Youtube videos to try to prove anything? Please, I can make Torres look like Ronaldo or the other way around (although it might be difficult, maybe NewCastle and Barcelona will do). If we had Hazard + Mata + Alexis and Oscar + Moses for depth and rotation (maybe even to gain position), half of our creating problem would be over. Forgot Demba Ba....definetly a comfortable top3. EDIT: I can see why people told Oscar should have stayed in Brazil not to fuck with his development, Neymar did the right thing by staying (then he will go to Barcelona to have 1 fucking bad season to later explode, Chelsea fans will cry and ask why they are always so impatient).

Do I want Rafa out? YES. Do I think there is a more qualified person to take his job? NO. Why do I want him out then? Some jobs in this world, specialy the ones that involves motivating people, are only successful with trust and connection between the employer and employee (coach and players in that case). Benitez is a good manager and has already proved he can lead a team to victories (he did it with Valencia and Liverpool), but in the circunstances he was announced, things didnt work out. He is hated by most of our fans, he is only here for 5 more months and because of that, there is no connection or passion. We can work our asses off, we can have the best tactics in the world or we can even have the best players, if we dont have absolute passion and huger, we wont be a winning team. Benitez is not a Chelsea guy, he will never be (just like Torres). He does not care abut the club (he will while he is incharge, but you get the idea) and that reflects to the players. One needs determination and belief to implement his philosophy and playing style, Benitez does not even have respect, he will never make this team work. The squad did not buy into his project and when it happens, there is no turning back. The same happened with AVB, there is no way of making the players regain trust, the only thing left is to part ways. He is not the only one to blame and he has a thin unprepared squad. However, he knew it all along. He came knowing he wasnt going to build a team and he would get rejection (from the fans and players). Benitez accepted the job with all this warnings, he put himself under this challenge and he failed. Rafa wont thrive, no matter how many excuses he gives. His contemplacy (seen in many games) would not happen if he was at Liverpool (place he loves). He can try as hard as he wants, he wont feel the same thing, he just wont (also apply to Torres). It is also not his fault that we lose so many chances and have no balls, but football isnt fair and that is why managers make millions of money. I would shake things up and announce someone like Martinez (just like SeB posted). The results wont change, we will continue to lose some games and win others, but we will regain our pride and will. Last season is a big example that the desire and determination is half of what a team needs in order to win. Ultimately, it does not matter if Benitez will give us better tactics and training sessions, the team wont correspond because they dont care about it.

Then why did you post you already know his future (failure, comeback to Brazil and blame the manager)? To be completely fair, I agree with that last post. All that was bothering me was that you have a very snob way of expressing your opinion. Oscar is overrrated (Brazilians are) and he is not having a good season (far from it). However, the kid is amazing and he has the potential to be as good as Mata (which is incredible). What I am asking is that we play him in his natural position, we cant ask much from him if he is playing as a winger. It is like asking Mikel to play as CB and then criticizing the man.

Oscar was only consired a top5 by the general public after Argentina (that is true), but he was always the "gem" of Sao Paulo. You might not know this, but Muricy used to miss a few trainning sessions only to travel to Cotia and have a close look on how things were going with Oscar.

True, but I fixed it.

NO! Mata with Hazard works and Oscar with Hazard works. Mata + Hazad + Oscar, doesnt... That is what I meant, lol.

I actually think Mata and Hazard and Oscar and Hazard play pretty well together. However, when Mazacar play, something feels wrong. I honestly believe we need a true winger, someone who has talent, flair and knows how to score (similar to Alexis Sanchez). We would have Hazard and Marin for the left wing, Mata and Oscar for #10 and Moses and X to the right wing. Obviously they can exchange positions, but this would be give enoguh depth.

You clearly know nothing past your FIFA experience.

Oscar and Mata play in the same position, they will not work together (as of right now). If you all want to see Oscar playing good football, he must be a direct sub to Juan. He will only play 15-20 games in 2013, but they will be excellent games. He can play on the pivot, but this will take more time (are you willing to wait more than we already are?). He needs to improve his body and adapt to his totally new life and football style in order to play CM in England.

No, Oscar was not the CAM. He played very, very few minutes in this position. So you can understand what i am saying, Oscar needs to be centralized and have space (he cant have competition for space from his teammates). Brazil plays him in a 4-2-1-2-1/4-2-1-3/4-3-3. Oscar played in front of Rambo and Paulinho and behind Neymar, Fred/Kaka and Hulk; being the dominant force in the central attacking mid. Tell me one game this has happened...

CAM, without Mata...

Tell me what games Oscar was our dominant central mid (because that is his role in Brazil)...

You can only say that once he gets the opportunity to play in that position. The problem is that we have Mata in there, and he is currently a much better player than Oscar. What pisses me off is that Benitez never plays him in his natural position, not even when Mata is not there. It is much more benefical and productive to use Oscar as a direct sub to Juan then to throw him in the fire in a wrong position.

I do think Oscar is overrated. (but isnt that so with any popular footballer?) I am pissed with the sarcasm and snob atitute of Henrique though. He is not beter than anyone and he cant claim (like he is an expert) the dude is a failure. Is Oscar playing great or is he being worth the investment? Of course not, but it does not give any right to completely rule him out. It is so stupid, we gave Torres 2 years and we are willing to give Lukaku 3-4, but poor Oscar cant even have one full season.

People who say that in Brazil are the ones who dont watch European games and think they still live in the 60s, 70s ans 80s, where we were vastly superior than any other nation. All they know about European Football is what they see on open tv, which is usually only news of UCL, Real Madrid, Barcelona and Brazilians abroad. There is a good amount of professional journalists and amateur coaches that are experts on European football that know better. Go back a few pages back, he literally said he knows more about football than anyone in Brazil. EDIT: What dionsa said in the post bellow.

Many people believe a lot of stupid things, it does not mean you are the best. Doubting Oscar is one thing, saying he is super overrated and already classifying him as a failure is another. He never played one huge game for Chelsea yet, he has for Inter and Brasil. We have to wait and give him time... Oscar is the best #10 we produced in a long time.

All hail, the self proclaimed best Football IQ in Brazil speaking!

What are you talking about Henrique? Arsenal is hell of a profitable club, we are more like Loserpool....

What he said...

This is unbelievable! Did you actually just say you have a better Football IQ than everyone in your country?

For the first time in all my life I fear things wont get better soon enough. There is no good perspective for the very near future...

He is by far the best option. As always, our best option isnt available!

The people blaming SB for the results are ridiculous!