Magic Lamps

my favourite encounter between the teams in recent years. City just had signed Robinho who scored early, just for Carvalho to equalise. Lampard and Deco ruled the midfield with Lamps scoring an exceptional goal to give us the lead. Carvalho also was an absolute boss that game, esp after Terry got sent off.

also do not like double pivot. 4-3-3 is best.

Which would have done the job. We did score only once against swansea, west brom and pool, 0 against juve, it's not that "a couple of important goals" would have made no difference. Also we wasted far more clear cut chances than we conceded goals in each of these games. Btw i do not like debating with people who alterate their opinion during the debate in order to artificially elongate it. First you argue that Lamps would not have changed anything, then you relativize that into "would not helped our defensive problem" and in the end u got a problem with the position he would play in. That tactic is not only annoying for others it is also very inefficient cos u only weaken your stance every time. Get your opinion sorted out in the very beginning.

Didn't see it either, surely a partly excuse for Torres lack of performing. Wicked bit business by liverpool. Shouldn't do deadline day signings any more if that means to abandon the necessary medical checks.

Can't be serious. It is ridiculously obvious that he is exactly the solution. Lamps is an experienced leader, world class finisher and legendary big match player, all that we have been missing, wasting 1000s of clear goalscoring chances, lacking head&heart and the ability to turn it on when it counts most. How did we win our trophies last season? Because we had a better coach, better tactics or more skilfull players, with tiki-taka and fancy trickery? No because our big, experienced players&leaders were at their best when it counted most, made no mistakes and used their fuckin opportunities. Without Lamps injury we would sit comfortably at the top of the epl and our cl group, cos there would have been a player who would have scored some of these 1000s of chances. In these times I would swap Oscar for Lamps every time.

Being a chelsea supporter has told me one thing for sure: Success in football is not about youth, fancy tricks, tiki-taka - it helps (esp combined with some healthy corruption and doping) but you can win things without that, not so without experience and leadership and the attributes these bring to your team: hard work,concentration and confidence in the crucial moments. Who will carry this team when Lampard retires. Jt? he can do nothing about our attacking play. Mazacar? what have they won us yet? Which crucial moments did they actually save our ass? Where were all these tricks and flashy moves then? In the Pool, ManU, Juve games they might have been keen, but what did we get out of these? A shit, because they failed when it counted the most. No only did they waste numerous golden chances, they simply were not at their best. A big player, a world class player is at his best in these exact moments, no matter what, no questions, no excuses. Our recent spell has proven, our younger players are not there yet. They are kids not leaders. That is not their fault. But it shows how grave a mistake it would be to ship out the only guy who could prepare them for these moments.More than anyone else out of the Old Guard it has been lamps who has carried this club through its most successful decade and transformed it from a decent european side to a global player everyone knows. Player generations at Real, AC Milan, FC Bayern, ManU, Barcelona have maintained, carried on what has been started decades ago. At Chelsea they created an entirely new, unprecedented legacy of success. Arsenal, Leeds, Hamburg, Lazio, deportivo aso how many clubs have fallen cos they could not handle that term of success? How grave a mistake it would be wasting that legacy by acting hasty in personell decisions...

Can't believe Rafa dares to judge Lamps's and Cole's future after a few days at the office. He should be far more diplomatic here. Could really harm the morale of the squad, considering the players' importance. I believe we will win nothing without Lampard or an adequat successor, but I see no one who could be that.

Just had a look at the videos of our crucial matches last season. Lamps put in outstanding performances against napoli (h), Liverpool, both barca games and Bayern. Nothing like slow on the ball there. Most notably he raped Mascherano, Henderson adn Messi before putting in inch-perfect passes leading to the goals. he knows when to up his game, his ability to step up in big-games and crunch time is immense. You can't turn that down unless u want to become Arsenal.

Our major problem is our finishing. I have never seen a team under Pep finishing particularly well.

Torres is like a pest carrying off every manager sooner or later.

so redundant. Not his fault, he was left with a ruin of a squad.

Roman will offer a Porsche to every Shakthar player scoring against Juve or an other fillip to make sure, they are up to it. Does anyone know if it suffices if we win 7-0 against Nordsjaelland and the others draw so we will be ahead Juve in goal difference.

This is all intentional. Roman wants to win Europa League, as we won the Champions League already Probably the most undeserved 3-0 win in history. OK our finishing and defence was poor, but Juve were just as bad. Giovinco's goal was their only shot on goal they did not fuck up completely. With Terry's leadership in defence and Lampard's finishing we would have thrashed them easily with the chances we created. Such a redundant but expected result considering we do the same mistakes all over again in every game. U can play crap only if u got luck on your side but we are chelsea nd we seldom have

Only mistake by Cech, does not matter. Who asked that midget twat to show his dismal midget upper body?

When have Mazacar actually saved our asses? When have they performed when the pressure was really on and we were backs to the wall? Lampard has saved our ass several times, Drogba, Terry, Cech have. Mazacar? No. For big games and big time u need big players. I do not see one on the pitch for us today. So yeah, lets ship lamps, terry, cech off to complete the revolution. Yeah we do not need them, as seen today.

As in the first leg, Pirlo's performance was pathetic. They still beat us fairly.... says it all.

oh yeah torres.... due to these obscure uefa rules, a goalfest against Nordsjaelland won't help us in case of a draw in donetsk?

Juve are so undeserved and lucky to go through. Poor finishing and shooting from them today. So if u have no finisher u simply need luck.

ref played a part, almost every freekick, throw-in or corner decision going juve's way, even though wrongly most times.

Once again a lucky deflection gifts them a goal, none of these strikes deserved to pass Cech

Fuck. We are probably out.

We are just so wasteful that is our main problem, Juve do not deserve the lead either. They may be better than us, but their finishing is just as poor only outrageous luck gifted them their goal. Moses has to save us again

same old, errorprone defence, wasteful attack

too many mistakes. If hazard had scored this would be an utterly different game.

u can't counter with a false 9 instead of strikers. A false 9 only makes sense if u dominate possesion like barca and spain