Zinedine Iniesco

Doesnt convince me. All you aspire for is anti football then against a team like barcelona. Aspire for the best instead of putting a fake winger.and dont put words into my mouth, i didnt assure long term lack of success, it just doesnt convince me that putting him as winger is the best option. Any manager that comes into chelsea will agree.

Deal with it then buddy, all this theatrics of yours entertain me, you have a 40 foot pinewood somewhere in you for you to be this gruntled, look for a therapist.The fact is that i HURT you while not even trying to do so, my very existence makes you rile up, and i cant do anything but sit here and laugh.

Football is football, to a certain degree i dont believe in that someone deserves to win, but then i do, barcelona footbalistically speaking deserved the cl title, and they have been overall the best team in history imo.But im not a real believe of anti football tag as others are, but meh.

I think that for a club with aspirations to success, you have to think about the big picture.You are narrow minded when it comes to possibilities. The day i see a team with ramires as its main starting right winger, ill die a little. You need some real packaging going forward. mcheacran should not play for chelsea this year as far as im concerned, there might be better options, essien is nearing the kind of status where he is dispensable if not already, and meireles certainly is if its nessecary for it to happen to bring in a truly world class midfielder. Cmon now think about success.

@ cap, i dont give a rabbits tail if its not a "word", it is if i make it one, and everyone here understands it so take it. Keita might leave but im not sure. Irrelevent towards the toure thingy though. Barca fans dislike keita to a certain degree i believe.

Barcelona have been un top of every team in the world since guardiola's era.This year they had a bad year, and madrid a good one, but chelsea got lucky barcelona didnt put in their chances.

When i troll i admit it, but this time i have posted logical arguments and have gotten childish and angry replies which have provoked me into having fun with them.Ive done nothing wrong really, its just the narrow mindedness. You can back track to all my posts and they all make sense. They get ugly and sometimes VERY UGLY when i talk to guys like davidson, orange banana or whatever that guys name is, spieg dudly, i cant even recall their names..point is,i like my own posts but they get ugly because they get controversial with your paradigm and thats undeniable. i understand your point and the real madrid thing might be pushing it, but its not my fault entirely. Narrow mindedness and inmaturity exists in great amounts in several users here.

For all that read this and care ... I have no problem with reading other people's opinions for the most part but when narrow minded, shallow, foolish people decide to say things either to me or in general, in EITHER reply form, a 1st statement form, i feel free to bring down anything i find ridiculous with irrefutable ownage. I do so in a nice logical statement first, but i turn my more aggressive tone when you decide to do so yourself. The example has been clear in this forum as i can count with my great fingers how many people have gotten butthurt and decided to shun me, just to come back and fail to bring me down. They all gave up, the pattern was simple, after they lose the ability to talk coherently about relevant topics, they tried to attack my relative frame of thinking in various ways, but just failed. My intention is never to troll, as i dont think i have ever done so, but if i see something stupid i always try to correct it, and when i do, and as i did today, countless of users reacted in childish manners. I've done nothing wrong, look in the mirrors. Cheers.

You have not understood the fact in hand under the correct context.(I was adding tidbits of info, he was reconstructing his ideas and making a mess out of it, you see things differently and thats ok as i dont give a dam). Your brain is probably incapable of doing so, so same difference. I have debunked everything possible and proved my self right every time, you have been unable to beat me, and just cant help your self, try to reach my heights by beating me in any argument. Your arguments, such as many that i have seen before in this forum and many others, and in real life, well basically everywhere are malinformed, you know what...they are simply a joke. You and so many others FAILED to counter my arguments, i debunked yours without even stating mine in many cases. I dominated the many of you today, and i hope this serves a lesson on you on how to deal with real men with real brains. Deal with it, now run away child.

By the way capra, capriccioso, whatever your name is ( i cant recall how exactly to spell it), i respect the fact that you came up to me in a 50-60 percent respectable way, with some ok points but in the end faulty logic, atleast you didnt implode like others, you just stopped for your own reasons. Cheers. Edit: and about that article on swiss ramble, it has things that i had a basic understanding of already. Real Madrid is top class when it comes to revenue, profit, ffp, ability to pay debt, future, etc. The tv deals and how la liga is dieing is unfortunate for those who care but all i care about in that league is madrid, and as long as we dominate in style, all the others in la liga can sort of burn for all that i care. To finalize ramires, a player with his tools but at a higher caliber would be good for mourinho, he likes players that can give good to his team, but ramires doesnt impress me for the most part, and i doubt he impresses mourinho, and even if he does, its irrelevent.

Nah you are being narrow minded now.It truly is impossible due to the quality of barca's midfield. Yaya toure could be used if they NEEDED of his service but they dont at the moment, and even if they do in the next couple of years he would be 31 or so and there would probably be better options, and anyways as long as busquets is there toure would always be a squad player, warming the bench. While in madrid we have no one like him, he would bench khedira, and lass is practically out already. Granero, sahin, alonso are different and needed. Apples and Oranges. Sigh..you wont beat me so just go eat a sandwich, you just keep replying in an attempt to prove me wrong, when im not because i know what im talking about, and you know that,you are trying to beat my will, and thats why you keep replying even though you said youd ignore me in the other thread. Its getting late here, and id rather sleep than keep going in circles with you. Cheerio. Edit: if you really are interested in engaging in leveled discussion for the plain enrichment of knowledge, mutual at that, then im open, but you are trying to beat me with faulty and ill logic and intentions and you cant, thats all.

I will indeed buddy, it's just the fact that i turn up the volume and what i call the TMO factor when people come at me aggressively or mal informed, i wont let it slide. Usually it doesnt end pretty for them, and then it creates controversy, but other than my arrogance, i have said nothing wrong that can be proven in ANY WAY wrong, track back and theres your proof. lets relax.

Not generalizing about toure at all, stating a valid conclusion. the guy is almost 30 and there is no room, and that is also one of the reasons im not SOO enthusiastic about him coming here for 2-3 years and then goodbye, but for the time being he could prove well, and i see nothing TOO concrete from which i can call his transfer here a pipe dream, Let him come out and say no eh? You got nothing there again bud. I give you an F, back to pre-school for you.

Wrong, silva is a pipe dream, i judge based on positions, the past, the future, there are many tangibles which one needs to bring up, so once again you are generalizing here and i give you a thumbs down, disappointing.Regarding toure, anything can happen with him, he might still come here, barcelona will NEVER call him as they have no reason to. I can see him coming here happening.

I talk about possible players that have been linked with us, such as modric has with us, i have no idea if he will come here or not, but he is a player that would do us good.Ask him about his barcelona thoughts, only he knows the truth, quote what hes said about barcelona. I have never read anything as absolute like that come from him. He has never stated his desire to return to barcelona, nor would they get him back.

That is it, run away as you have no other reason or tools to continue in discussion.When i read things that are just wrong based on what i know, i respect them, but i attack them and bring them down if i find them wrong, and NOT ONCE, have i been proven wrong in this place and in many others, in real life, everywhere, because i never talk if i dont know what im talking about. If you see me in that way, then fine, thats just more of your opinion which i cant care less for regarding that topic and context. I post logical arguments, and win. I thrive in intellectual knowledge, but when i read stuff that is just wrong, i bring it down, and no one can bring it up. and then THEY LEAVE.

And by the way, i always imagine a team in a realistic boundary, i have to think about other factors such as the manager and club and history and style and current situations. I cant just talk as a "fan" whatever that means. thats why i puke at all the ridiculous van persie, rooney, aguero, silva, etc, transfer rumours linked to us at times by joke newspapers such as daily mail and the sun, and even marca. I always see things from as good as a view as possible.

So by now, now that you have nothing else to say you ask me this? I will answer it with similar fashion as before. I am not interested in possession football, here is where you have assumed WRONG, and incorrectly. I dont want ramires because he does not impress me, if mourinho wants a similar player he will get him but i dont think thats what he wants. You dont know whats going on inside my head, but you write in absolutes and ask question along those lines. Javi martinez, and yaya toure would be better additions than ramires, martinez is like a 2nd coming of redondo ffs, hed be a very good player. We play different football and a different scheme, we are vertical, those players would improve over khedira, and an aging alonso. Sahin-Toure Sahin-Martinez Alonso-Toure Alonso-Modric Sahin-Modric and dozens of more possibilities, it can only improve this team.

For the record when you post something, post it correctly, dont edit it, or else that seems like you are unsure about what you are writing and it may leave my response lacking as you keep adding to it. I cant care less for basque talk right now, sorry mate but lets not get into that political nonsense. We play at our own game and have done well doing so this season. Theres not much more to say. Its your view thats wrong. We wont ever try to play like barcelona, out football is quick, fast, and vertical, with priority on goals. Anything else?

Who says we are signing modric? Dont talk in absolutes like that.And then when it comes to the midfield and order of play, just because you are trying to find pieces of work in your midfield to improve in some way, it doesnt mean that you are trying to do the same thing. Do you watch modric play? He is similar to granero only miles better at certain aspects. Granero would be a good partner to alonso but he isnt secure enough at several aspects to surpass khedira as the partner of alonso. A Modrid-Sahin midfield for all that we know could do what ours can but with much more mobility, and ability to retain possesion of the ball, that though does not mean we attempt tiki taka ffs. You sound like you have no clue about our scheme, which apparently you dont mate.

I assume as i please and as i see fit. Your problem not mine.It's a familiar course as no one can beat me in a logical argument and instead point out to different factors that are just plain malformed, and i have proved it.

At this point we are getting off topic regarding ramires, and i cant care less for him coming to madrid and i have already stated so so lets just end it here, as this is not the thread for it. Go to the madrid thread or just look the other way after the following..Now again i find you rambling jibberish from your keyboard here. There is no delusional thinking under that context, atleast not from me or the club or the players. Mourinho likes hard working people and has fallen under a certain mold and profile of players but he adapts to the situation and has done so well here. You have still said nothing new, relevant, nothing. And then the 3rd paragraph, i can understand where that vision of yours comes from, and let me tell you that its wrong, its laughably wrong and this is all. Play at their own game? Open your mind and see the world as it is..no one is trying to out play them at their own game, you are looking at it wrong.

Please spiegel, as far as i know, under my guidelines, you know nothing about him under certain contexts, and all that have mentioned things about him have given me no reason to think other wise. Theres too much uneducated generalizing here.I just stated a whole lot of "truth" in my past post, and unless capricciosso or anyone gets into the discussion well, then there's nothing more to say, because im not wrong because theres no way to prove it. But i accept different opinions though, i find it under my right to bring them down though. In a logical sense of course.

Now i do get entertained from these discussions, even though the end result will be similar to the starting one ( the acceptance of my correctness) but um, i'll just put on the table some irrefutable statements that will rile your opinions into pieces at least in my view."Ramires is ahead of the 4 you listed" is a bleak statement that tells me very little to nothing ( i dont take statements down quickly, you either have some back up or what you are saying is equivalent to garbage from a dumpster. Mvila is an FM god?, Modric a rich man's mikel? Please boy please, this does not impress. I doubt you have the knowledge in your noggin to completely have a logical grasp on all those player's abilities your conclusions are bleak and thus irrelevant. The part about the muntari players is such a misunderstanding that you make the whole idea of how he works his teams a bit convoluted and one sided. He adapts to what he needs with his own style. Regardless of whether modric is coming here is true, he would only come due to mourinho, so in the end its all up to him but he knows what he has to do to win in several places, with specific styles, and so far hes left me personally nothing but satisfied. So for the 1st paragraph i give you a C- for effort. Technique is overrated? That is quite a bleak and irrational statement from my point of view, and if you want to generalize like that, then go look at what technique has done for Fc Barcelona specially since the guardiola era. He has to sign a well rounded player with the attributes needed to play the system we are playing right now. The fact that alonso's technique with the ball at his feet is low is a negative aspect. Lass is going out and he's all physique.. khedira? look at what happens when you dont have technique...you cant have the ball at your feet and you end up playing hoofball until you clock the pieces together to build a scheme which is what mou has built. Brash statements from you buddy. Don't generalize. Busquets is 10 times ( under a certain context of course) the player ramires is in my eyes and always will be. I give you a C- for 2nd paragraph for effort. 3rd paragraph is jibberish..and then 4th nears that as well, youd have to be dumb to think we'd want to play possession football. And then the anti football part is truly uneducated jibberish so..whatever. Try to give me some good insight. If that type of reply is what happens when i say ramires isnt anything all that special, then who knows what happens if i say other things. Ramires will stay at stamford bridge. Case closed. and imo hes good but nothing SPECIAL (i wont bother explaining). Mourinho has made this team play some of the nicest football ive seen from us, he cant just come here and do an inter and he knows that, and the numbers tell that. You have obviously not seen any of the recent classico's either, and if you have then you have failed to grasp a logical reality from them. Case more than closed here.

None of that and i mean NONE of that convinces me one bit. Ramires can stay at stamford bridge. Edit: At your edit , all that sounds brash, and malinformed from several angles, please now, come up with something good.