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Funny enough, i was actually going to say that but forgot to put it in at the end, he defo has all the credentials to be it. Plus even if you say he's not now, there's no denying he was at least.

The deference between messi and ronaldo is that Ronaldo can track back/defend from all over the park, his height and skill in the air is very important for defensive set pieces and the like, he's a better all around footballer Who's the best forward is up for debate tho, i'd say messi since he's more the forward, tho neither is the best striker, I'd put it this way, Best dribbler in the world = Messi (which allows him to get into the places to score and has alot of strikers qualities) Best Forward/winger = Ronaldo The BEST all around player should be a midfielder of some kind that can defend/score/track back/attack/good in the air/good on the ground, Not brilliant at anything but a great all rounder that should be what the best PLAYER should be about imho.

Looked very poor in the AOC, despite have a goal here and there, maybe EPL material but i wudnt say Chelsea material.

---------------------------------Cech--------------------------------------- -----Api/ivan----Cahill/ivan------Terry/Cahill-----Cole/bertrand-------- ---------------------Mikel/lampard------Luiz--------------------- -------------moses/hazard------Lampard/felliani(if only)-----Mata/oscar-------- -----------------------------------Ba------------------------------------- More then enough quality there if played right.

That was shit football too, it got the odd food result but we couldnt defend for shit. I remember when we played good football all around.

Has it become cool to hate bertrand now or something? People are fucking stupid. Anyway Rafa out pathetic stuff, no more stupid football, need a jose back so we can score AND defend. Also Torres has gotten even worse, absolutely worthless

Buy him already, he's exactly what we need, throw in benayeon or marin, just get it done.

What i meant by that is he's a fucking laugh i.e. beyond a joke as in, fucking useless so yea he's shite.

Good christ, this is the attitude that got us into this big mess in the first place. No more stupid football thanks, proper football only. Also rafa cant get much worse, he's a fuckin laugh

As long as someone breaks the self proclaimed "king of the ball boys" legs aye.

Liverpool fan this time actually nothing too nice being said by the UTD cunts i know either, Scumbags.

Good to hear, sadly most of the cunts i know have been calling hazard a scumbag and a cunt, one even went as far to say he should get raped for what he did, interesting irony eh? Good to know tho been unadding the basterds all morning, why is that scumbags are always the 1st to call others scumbags lol?

Lets see the good side of this, anyone ya know who defend the little scumbag cunt of a ballboy clearly isnt worth your time, And should be branded as the enemy of society they are, the scum class. Just like Utd and liverpool fans, good way of weeding out the cunts

Anyone who defends the ballboy is a wanker far as im concerned, Defence of a scumbag is never a good thing, Look at the state of the ballboy, he's clearly a scumbag who planned to act the bollix, if i seen him on a night out i'd of kicked him around the place to nevermind what he did on the pitch. Good on hazard, kick scumbags out of football one cunt at a time!

Bales that little bit older tho, he's 23 now and has shown he's well able to at least start tho i do think he's over hyped in the sense he's not some 100million ronaldo like player, but he is a great player and will probably get alot better. The system we have isnt perfect no, but what were doing with bertrand and PVA is defo the right way to do it and if bertrand only starts his 1st team career at chelsea at 25 then he'll be more then able to handle the pressure and the experience needed.Agreed on if ryan was at West ham as well. And i agree he's no winger but when you need to sit on a result for 10mins and you already got cole in LB i cant think of a better player to link up with him and help the defense while still not being particularly bad at it. We defo shoudnt go down this direction of really young players playing or really old, a nice medium is always the way, look at tonight in the cup, alot of our younger players choked like they have done in all big games so far, bar the league ones.

That has no relevant, pato at 17 was the worlds best thing and now he's muck, Gerard and lampard and terry werent anything special at 17 and they became legend of an entire generation, dosent matter when bertrand gets better or if he wasnt better then, i believe him to be better now and will be more then good enough for the job in time. Anyway most of your post's seem like your trolling half the time anyway so im gunna leave it here. I dont rate chamberlain at all, another useless player like sturridge,wallcott, welbeck over hyped and overrated by a desperate english media and bias snobbery to the top teams. Anyway thats fine if they want to get young talent through, but thats a feeder clubs job, if you want us to become a feeder club and bring talent through too early win nothing and sell them, then theirs a another london club much better at that in the last few years, i suggest you support them, shaw wont be ready for a long time, bertrand will be more then good enough with PVA as back up or vice versa.

Yea that's really worked out for wenger hasnt it.......wait? no it hasnt. Do people like to pretend arsenal havent won anything since wenger started this philosophy or what?

Bertrand played the champions league final and many other high import games with the composure and ability you've all seen to forgotten about, i think most people seem to judge bertrand on performances where it's also not been his fault, many times i've seen him criticized by retards for not being able to deal with 3 attackers when the fault actually lay with hazard or whoever was in front of him for not tracking back, this to me shows a clear misunderstanding of the game as a whole. Anyway what, Luke shaw had one good game against us and he's the new best thing ever? if Beneteiz wasnt a useless shite we'd of one that game easily and hammered them, would people still be saying he's great? people want this stupid arsenal way of football, bring in young experienced "great players" and while i have no doubt they could be great one day, they'd cant achieve this until they get a little older and wiser, feeling your team full of young "great players" is how arsenal won nothing in the last 8 years, you need a balance. Bertrand at 25 taking over from cole with PVA as a back up is perfect, if you mean buy shaw as a back up and loan him out until he's 21-22 and ready then fine. But bringing him in at 17 and wanting him to be 1st choice in a year is sheer stupidity. You dont even hit your peak in football till around 27.....silly silly people.

People are stupid, Betrand will be more then good enough in time. End of story, between him and van arnholt we'll have LB covered for years.

About time more people stated speaking sense around here, i more or less said all this at the start of the year when everyone was wanking over our "barca" revolution and i got fucking slated. Funny how fickle some cunts are.

No, another big PL proper player for a change, who can offer us something different, Not another tika taka barca wanna be.

A true follower of wenger then.

So he'd win just 1 thing every 8 years instead of nothing lol ?

I firmly believe with Ba on the field from the start we'll win the second leg hands down, Bar poor ivan having a shocker, they werent going to get those 2 goals and is Ba was on the field instead of whoever is pretending to be torres these days, we'd of scored, Ba done more in 9 mins then torres did in 80 odd, unless cunt. Rami should of been off for lamps sooner and Ba for Torres half time, Marin for oscar just seemed like a sub for subs sake but he didnt play badly so was fine. Rafa proves again he's a useless cunt. Just like he was at liverpool, What was the song we used to sing to him when he was manager there? "We want you to stay! We want you to stay! Rafa Benetiez we want you to stay!" We though he was shit then, whats changed? Anyway lads chin up, Ba looks to at least step up and be a man about it and be a striker for once, he might not be amazing, but he'll at least to a job, unlike the sorry cunts he's replacing, sturridge and torres.

Oh wow another tippy tappy tiny barca/arsenal like player.......great. Buy fucking felliani so we got a plan B. Christ.