Chelsea Legend 11

Dude... you're going off the rails here. Ricardo Rodriguez and Luke Shaw do NOT have the same sort of skill sets. I value what Rodriguez can bring more than I do that of Shaw... who I actually like a lot.

What part of GRAIN OF SALT do you guys need clarification on?

Is it that Whoscored overrates or is it that he's not in a system that lets him perform the same way? Kind harsh to say they overrate when all they do is tabulate stats.

Again... grain of salt. Luke Shaw doesn't take set-pieces because he can't deliver them accurately as someone like Lallana or Rodriguez.

Of course. Its still an accurate delivery though... Grain of salt on that

He struggled with the duties Jose asked him to perform, not the league as a whole.

http://www.optasports.com/who-we-work-with.aspx#1209

He's not the finished article but in everything he does he is MILES better than Shaw. Its hardly debatable and for a guy who I think understands the game and seems sensible I don't know why you have so much to say to the contrary. And you are entitled to your opinion, dog... I'm not gonna argue with you over why I think Ricardo is better than Luke in every category, to me its as plain as day. Your finished article is statistically nowhere near Rodriguez.... Dude you will never convince me that Luis or Shaw are better options than Rodriguez, its just not gonna happen. I've watched all three quite a bit and for me Ricardo's skillset is head and shoulders above both of them.

I bet more than half the people who dog stats don't know that Chelsea actually use stats a helluva a lot! They rely on Opta to analyze all sorts of players and teams, its scouting made easy.

I don't know what you guys are looking for right now... The finished article is not going to be available within the Chelsea price range. Besides what is the point in scouting if all you do is wait till the player is complete till you put in a bid for him? Ricardo is a very good option at LB no matter what league he's played in, few can argue he wouldn't improve this club and also improve overall under the masterful tutelage of Jose Mourinho.

He's proven in the bundesliga though which is a very good league! And why does a guy who is 21 and costs under 20m need to be proven in Europe or at a top club? its clear to me he's a very good player, he can deliver a cross and is deadly from set pieces, those types of things won't change once he comes to the premier league.

Costa is someone I was supporting coming here until that second hamstring injury, my Spidey sense is tingling on that one now. Not that we shouldn't sign him but proceed with EXTREME caution. I think Mandzukic, Lukaku and Ba have some good qualities for a strike force too. My dream team would be Costa, Mandzukic, Lukaku since they all possess different skillsets Without Ricardo, who I think is the only one worth putting a bid in for, I'd say stand pat and play Azpilicueta there and allow some youth to come in like Kenneth Omeruo. He can definitely play RB and CB so he's a good utility guy in the back line. He's gonna be a monster at the world cup too so having him locked up is great news. Midfield is tricky there aren't that many who I think can function in the pivot and also move the ball like a deep playmaker, if there were every team would have one. I really think we need to throw obscene money at Pogba and just be done with it.

Pogba can most certainly be that guy. People here are looking for Modric/Pirlo, I'm looking for Yaya Toure. Pogba is the closest thing to him, he's very good on the ball and can most certainly pick a pass. Matic and Pogba is a dream tandem for a Jose team.

He may be used more at RB at Chelsea than CB he's quite good technically and is pretty fast

This kid is gonna be in the squad next year he's better than Kalas/

If my prayers to the football gods get answered this summer we will add three players this offseason: Ricardo Rodriguez, Paul Pogba and a fucking striker.

it has to happen we need homegrown talent and also club trained talent.

All this worry and bother about youth coming through, folks the main problem we've had with integrating youth is chopping and changing of managers. When Jose's been here for 3-4 yrs you will see youth come through, the myth about Chelsea always buying and not developing will be demystified when we have a long term manager and we do now in Jose. Kalas is in the final stages of his development, if he goes on loan its just to get him Prem ready for the likelihood that JT may be close to the end.

I think Kenneth Omeruo is also in with a shout.

And for those who keep slagging the compilation videos they're called HIGHLIGHT reels for a reason, its HIGHLIGHTING what a player can/has done nothing more. Enjoy the footage.

The twittermill is heating up a bit. I truly hope this is true, I know we need a striker but adding Pogba would be the type of move that would transform Chelsea from cusp to odds on favourites.

My Spidey sense is tingling....

you are. Champions league finals is the biggest game in club football you don't make that sort of move so early unless its in dire need.

Carlo came to a squad that went to the semis three times and then spent: 86M on Bale(match winner), 25.5m Isco(super sub), 32m Illarramendi(wow). Anything less than a Champions league finals berth would've been a huge disaster. Credit to Carlo though! wonder what would've been said had they not scored in the final minute of the game.

Degenerative knees and a hamstring injury are two very different things. NO need to compare but an injured player is an injured player... I'm not all gung-ho about this move as I used to be. He is a beast but I don't like hamstring injuries, especially in succession they can be tricky.