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Not surprised, if true. The signs are there...

@Tomo Thoughts on "letting" Willian go to Arsenal? Good move or will come to regret it?

Also on Guardian...

Am sure every other top managers and players are winners as well but there are ways to go about it, even when when you don't win, and Conte's way is definitely not one of them.

The silly or frustrating thing with Conte is that he has shown he can coach and has proven it. He can improve players, make teams play better and even punch about their weight. But some times, he just goes and does/says things that you make you go 'What the hell?!'. If he focuses more on the coaching than the incessant moaning, he would actually be very enticing for the big clubs. But that is unlikely ever gonna be the case if he keeps his volatile management style going.

Inter may have been happy to finish 2nd but Conte himself doesn't care about 2nd. He only wants 1st. Otherwise, he'll just moan. He's basically a short term manager.

Reasons? What reasons does he have to be moaning almost every week? He's been backed to the hill by Inter with the transfers and yet, he is still moaning. If he's unhappy with the board, go speak with them behind closed doors and if he's still unhappy, then just quit. Constantly throwing his toys out of the pram like a baby in the public just makes him look bad and is not going to help his future job prospects at a big club.

Hard to disagree but still both very similar. In Mourinho's case, he might have been desperate to turn things around but when his methods of doing that were basically repeating the same things, then it's like 'What's the point?'. Plus, his passive aggressive ways and man management were (and still?) arguably the most dominant factor in causing the bad slump because if the players do not respond to what you say anymore, then you're in big trouble.

Saying Conte likes to moan because he is a winner, knows he wants etc is silly. Does that mean the likes of Klopp, Guardiola are not winners because they do not moan?

No chance of Kante being sold even with all his injury problems.

Conte? It depends on which aspects, IMO, because they are both very similar.

This thing with Conte's targets is that it is not exactly black and white. Yes, the board did not exactly back him but at the same time, some of his targets were duds. I mean, Antonio Candreva? Fernando Llorente? They would have been just as disastrous as the likes of Drinkwater, Zappacosta etc. Moreover, if we want to talk about hindsight, then it was also a good thing that we did not buy Sandro, Danilo and Nainggolan. Sandro hardly pulling up any trees at Juventus. Danilo has gone to Man City and flopped. Nainggolan is now on loan at Cagliari, after Conte deciding to bin him despite having wanted him at Chelsea. Would have been hard to bin them, just like how we are struggling to bin certain players. Furthermore, it is hard to know why he is even moaning now at Inter. He has got quite a lot of backing from the board in the transfer market, being able to sign his players and all that but he is still unhappy. Why? Conte may have the track record but if he wants to continue being like this, then go ahead because at some point, the big clubs are gonna be wary and tired of his antics - just like how clubs feel now with Mourinho, unless that club are really desperate for trophies - and not hire him. The only person to suffer then is Conte himself. Am too lazy to check his teams but go through Conte's sides and am sure you would find players that he likes and rarely drops, even after bad performances. Every manager has their favorites and will rarely or not drop them at any cost, unfortunately and whether we like it or not. Don't think people are not giving Conte enough credit. Our last title win was one of our more enjoyable ones, certainly better than the one before that IMO but it's just, like Tomo said, Conte has shown that he can motivate and coach a team to play and some times, punch above their weight and yet, he just likes to moan about things. It is what we have seen at Juventus, Chelsea and now at Inter. And he has been backed so much at Inter, arguably even more so than at Juventus and Chelsea. I don't know what conversation he had with the Inter board behind closed doors but having a manager who constantly moans in the media and creates this negative atmosphere is tiresome. We had it with both Mourinho and Conte. Heck, it's somewhat refreshing that Lampard isn't doing this in the media and especially after not being able to sign anyone in January.

I didn't want to believe it when he was here but TBH, Conte is almost just another Mourinho. Sure, they have the CV and track record but they just moan, moan and moan and some times, they moan for no apparent reason. It's almost as if they need some sort of chaos to thrive. At some point, the big clubs are gonna be very mindful of the antics and stay away from hiring them. It's why Mourinho has found himself at Spurs rather than say Bayern or Juventus and there's already that feeling that he is done at the highest level.

As @Artandur mentioned yesterday...

If true, deary me...

Oh dear. Gotta sell first before buying defensive reinforcements... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/08/02/frank-lampard-faces-wait-find-whether-will-allowed-rebuild-chelsea/

Still think Pulisic needs to go out on loan?

Lampard's defensive record as a manager: 111 games 145 goals conceded (70 with Derby, 75 with Chelsea) 27 clean sheets (14 with Derby, 13 with Chelsea) If anyone is curious, his sides have scored 191 goals (Derby - 90; Chelsea - 101)

Goal difference is not the first tiebreaker in Serie A. Head-to-head is, which in this case, Genoa have over Lecce.

Oh, you're cruel. Get the hopes up and then crush it within an hour.