Santiago.

Which just proves my point. Year after year he portrays talent and generation after generation united have continued to be successful under him.

Since when did i not say that Mourniho wasn't Chelsea's best manager? If you haven't noticed, my arguments are going throughout this topic, My basic statement and point throughout this argument in how many believe that "Jose Mourinho is the best manager in the world", is that he inherited world class players to begin with at Porto, Chelsea, Inter, and Madrid. I would like to see him manage wolves or how he could stay at a club for a period of time and build a team generation after generation, rather than leaving after a couple years to another big shot club with talent flowing though the ranks. When you claim that i don't take the time to read, your being hypocritical as would have known that i clearly stated that i only praise Mourinho for his tactics in outsmarting his opponent. Porto won the Champions league due to a pair of luck getting aside United, and outclassed Monaco in the final. At Chelsea, was purely in the right direction with the cash being brought in for the players as well as Mourinho, who's tactics brought a premier league title for the club as well as other domestic cups. At Inter, yet again, talent emerging throughout the club and out smarted tactically against Barcelona. At Madrid, with the most expensive squad in the history of football, yet only managed to win one trophy while pep manages to humiliate him 6 times in 9 meetings, Madrid only winning 1. While he cowards back with 5 defenders and a 3 men midfield at home against barca, a sight of him being too cautious. Like i said previously, his tactics are the only thing i praise him for. He was inherited a great squad where ever he went, but his tactics with that club got him to where his prestige is. It's purely based on preference, but being a Chelsea forum, there will be biased reasoning into play rather than logical thinking. Post of the fuckin year, 'How he took on the great barca side?' LMAO, which one? the 5-0 defeat? the 2-0 Defeat? the 3-1 defeat? The most expensive squad in history, with world class talent even on the bench, i would have expected them too. 1 victory out of 9 against Barca is truly a great feat. How barca are still in mathematically 3 competitions in the season and Madrid are only in 2, never knew the season ended in feb.

Were Mikel and Diarra even part of Chelsea's academy? As CM standards, i hope you have some support rather than biased reasoning in how you think Mikel is better than Fletcher

If SAF isn't some 'miracle working youth developing legend', then how in good gracious is talent like that somehow emerged? SAF- Giggs, Beckham, Scholes, Neville, Fletcher, Butt, Pique, Brown, Oshea, Rossi, Welbeck, Cleverly The question is not if pep can only be judged if he goes for another club, it's actually a matter if he can continue to produce great players year after year comparable to the likes of SAF. See now your taking a stab like a pathetic fool Your statement is at a point where it reaches new lengths of irrational and illogical statements. He already had world class talent when he approached porto, Chelsea, inter, as well as Madrid. That is the main question mark over his forehead, United vs Bayern, yet again, they were not the better team, but luck guided them through, just As porto v United and Inter v Barca. It's the nature of football and how the ball rolls. This is not a matter of being biased for Chelsea, this is just logical thinking, and the idea in how so many people manage to think that Mourniho is the best manager in the world just astonishes me, truly.

A specific post was made that received about 8 reps with the comment being, "Mourinho is the best manager----" which i replied in a way that i showed a certain disagree. When Mourinho approached his clubs, he was already surrounded by gifted players, Porto, Chelsea, Inter, as well as Madrid, while he had an unlimited spending amount, and won cups year after year, yet people drool for him. He's always had luck on his side, Porto vs United, as well as Inter vs Barca, at the end, his team wasn't the better team, but he outsmarted them tactically. Apart from his tactics, i don't look upon him as 'the best manager in the world', in some cases a few members here would say. While the likes of SAF, who continues to build generation after generation of stars even with transitions periods throughout United's history, his vision as well as his brilliance stands out as the best manager who ever embraced the Premier league. Instead of breaking into the bank account, he produces youth into the team which emerges future stars. Then you look at Spain with Pep, who's vision of football that he experienced first hand and introduces it to the world in his own style. A team that was so out of form, that lost to Madrid in the league, that lost to United in the champions league, and the next season, manages to win the very first Sixtuplet his very first season with them. Bringing the best out of Xavi, Iniesta, as well as Lionel Messi, introducing youth from La Masia, controlling the team to play as a unit and bringing the greatest chemistry within a football team i have ever seen. I see similarities with AVB in how he is trying to bring his own vision to Chelsea. Lampard, Terry, Drogba, these are still Mourinho's players. This is why i disagree in bringing Mourinho back and why i am backing AVB, he is the future of Chelsea FC, Not Mourinho

Claiming he is one of the best managers in the world is different from saying he is the best manager, i'd love for you to convince me otherwise

Mourinho best manager in the world? There's a laugh

Nothing alike? Romeu shows no ability in off ball movement and positioning....? This discussion is over, i have no further motivation to carry on

he seems pretty keen on getting hulk

1-0 to the mighty blues

Drogba is injured apparently Given the face that it's Bolton and pulled out an average performance, doesn't satisfy me, but given our circumstances of recent games, i agree it was a better performance

Villa will be no way shape or form ready and fit to start the euro's so this would be my starting lineup. -------------Soldado-------------- Iniesta-------Xavi------Fabregas --------Alonso---Busquets------- Arbeloa-------------------Ramos ----------Puyol-----Pique--------- ---------------Casillas------------- Llorente Villa Pedro Silva Alba Iraola Albiol Mata Javi Martinez Thiago Munian Jesus Navas Valdes Reina

Would love to know why Lampard got the majority of the votes, i only saw 75 mins of the entire match, but other than the goal Lampard was far from a great performance, Drogba as well, It's Bolton

Draw against City, win against Arsenal, and loss against Liverpool is my prediction

No we won't imo, if we continue with the 4 3 3 with no natural wingers and no creative midfielders, we will fail

Someone summed it up perfectly, Gerrard is the overall better player, But Lampard was better than Gerrard when both were at their prime. 2005 Lampard was the best midfielder in the world.

Overall decent performance, decent at best. Still little individual errors that need to be fixed.

0 Creativity in the midfield is literally murdering us, Pathetic performance yet again, typical

Not happy to see Drogba at CF, he was absolutely shit against Napoli, like he didn't give a fuck, hopefully his attitude changes.

JoulJoul might be one of the most illogical, irrational, laughable members so far, way to make an entrance.

Those cups mean shit when football is a team based game, How the media portrayed him as the next big thing, then once he hit Europe, was average at best. Pele is trying to Protect Neymar by keeping him Brazil while the media continues to kiss his ass, just like pele

Let me rephrase, I despise left footed players with their 'right foot' phobia The lack of using their weaker foot bugs me immensely