Don't know what the big deal about macs is? Apart from using them for design. I used a mac for about a year, too many limitations, too expensive. Paying for the illuminated apple on the lid IMO. Bought an HP lap top. Came with NVIDIA GEFORCE GT Graphics card (mid-range) plus 8gb RAM for like 600 pounds. Runs BF3, skyrim, DIRT 3, AutoDesk Inventor 2012 perfectly! Macbook pros are what, 1000pounds? if not more. You might say "mac books last forever", thats true, but the computer technology is forever changing and you cant retrofit components to macbooks As long as you keep the porn at bay, Windows will last a long time too. Windows>Mac OS