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Chelsea: Cech, Ivanovic, Cahill, Luiz, Cole; Mikel, Lampard, Ramires, Hazard, Mata, Torres. Atletico Madrid: Courtois, Juanfran, Godin, Miranda, Filipe Luis, Mario Suarez, Gabi, Koke, Arda Turan, Adrian Lopez, Falcao.

Because whenever he was on the pitch he made things happen. If not by scoring himself or assisting, then by taking on 2 or 3 defenders and beating them or sending in perfect crosses or long passes. That number is extremely distorted since all of his appearances, as far as I remember, in the league were from the bench, often for mere 5 mins. He was by far Juve's best forward despite not getting chances by Conte.

I envy you, I wanted him to Celtic so I can still watch him play lol You obviously didn't see him ripping the Serie A last season whenever he was on the pitch. There is no such thing as too old for Del Piero, he is immortal!

You can't be serious. We're talking about the team that finished sixth in the PL last season + Hazard vs the undefeated champions of Italy who have also strengthened during the summer. I think we might have a slight advantage, especially that most Juve players don't have much CL experience. But to say we are in a different level is very deluded.

If we wanted a free emergency striker we could have gotten the god himself, Del Piero.

Damn, Moutinho for 22m is excellent business. Hope he flops at spuds.

Don't be fooled by his age, King Alex was Juve's best forward last season despite his very limited opportunities. Class is permanent.

Maicon to City? Glad it was them not us.

Loan? Arsenal? That has to be the stupidest piece of business since.....since we loaned Benayoun to Arsenal

No disrespect to him, but he is the mistake that just won't go away! It wasn't fair to the club or him when we signed him and we are still, quite literally, paying the price.

Doesn't excuse his attitude. If anything it makes it worse since there will be many young players looking up to him and having him as their idol.

Yaya C*nt Toure next please

Threw away two points against Genk last year as well. These apparently easy matches can be very costly if we get complacent.

Yeah but it will be a bit weird with all the contradicting emotions. Just hope it's a simple match with no problems.

I reaaally didn't want to get Juve. But I guess they'll have to settle for second place. It's a fair group after all, especially if you compare it to the likes of group D.

They do get Madrid instead

A good preview of the draw by Dan Levene: http://sulia.com/channel/chelsea-fc/f/2f1eb1b3-4eee-4074-be4b-e2e3d65d51a0/?source=twitter

Really? Well then EPL tv completely got this one wrong

Just read that only we and Liverpool have ever won the European Super cup. Arsenal lost their only one while Manu lost both of their European Super cup finals.

Don't think so. Danny is staying here, no one is paying 25m for him, which was probably why the board put that price tag on him.

Don't want Valencia, we always get them. It's always nice playing against new teams.

I do? Well, then never mind Don't know why that has to be the rule? The perfect senario, in my head, would be him getting the odd bench place now, which he is bound to get as we are short on strikers. A couple of good sub performances can lead to a more regular bench place. Then, more consistent good performances from the bench can lead to him being given the odd start here and there in the league. The better he plays the more starts he gets until he becomes a starter. I know it's a bit optimistic, but there absolutely no reason why that can't happen during the next 3 seasons.

One word: media. The British media has been constantly saying how shit he is for the past 18 months now; it's bound to stick in people's minds, especially those who don't watch him regularly.

That's what I'm here for! But he is getting regular football. NextGen and U21 can't be a lot worse than league one.

I agree about the first part but I have my reservations about loans. The thing with loans is they either make or break a player, and unfortunately it is the latter most of the times. I personally would love to see him play with the U21 for two season while being slowly integrated with the first team.