Blue Armour

Well Sarri didn't stay. That's why we were left with a problem. Sarri staying would have been a far safer bet than anyone else coming in at that point. At least he would know where to pick up, and possibly even got us closer to playing the kind of football he envisioned. If Sarri had stayed, then the club wouldn't have approached Lampard. Lampard instead would have been coaching Derby for another year in the championship., with Tomori and possibly Mount. What I'm saying is Lampard didn't push for the job. He was given a high risk, high reward offer from the club, and he made the most of what he could. He should take credit for whatever he achieved last season. Anyway, all that is irrelevant now. Just like that quote from the blade runner movie, 'tears in the rain' at this point. He's in a position that even experienced managers would struggle to worm their way out of. A slump. The end is almost here

Also, would be interesting to see if the club engages in any transfer activity during this window. That will be a really telling sign.

Well, based on what we've seen during the past several years at Chelsea its unlikely you will see that. Only this week have we even seen press stating that his position is under threat. Regardless, I still think they are close to that point. Loss to Leicester will be the tipping point IMO, unless there is an upset against Fulham before that.

Wishful thinking...even the most negative article is only stating that his position is under threat. We've been here before. It takes a lot more negative press before we finally see the trigger pulled.

Clinging onto hope more like...looks like he already has his eyes on the FA cup and Fulham fixtures to try and get a rebound in form before facing off against Leicester. Defeat to Leicester will seal it IMO,..unless he suffers another upset before that game (very possible).

Well tbf...despite how horrible his team is now and everything gone to shit, he still deserves credit for securing CL for another year in a season when lot of people wrote us off, after Hazard's departure, especially with no transfer window. Don't think we should complain too much about him coming in when he did., even if he ultimately wasn't the right choice.

Doesn't seem that way based on City's goal blitz. Did you not see how easily they scored their first and second with barely any opposition from the Chelsea players? First 10 mins, Chelsea were pressing intensely, and after the first DeBruyne shot, they just caved in. The attitude of the team isn't right and Frank doesn't look like he can fix it. I mean, who is he going to drop, and who he is he going to bring on in the coming games to fight for him? I think he has rubbed quite a few players the wrong way with his selections. Werner based on his performance from last 2 weeks is undeserving of a start. Granted, he tried him out at CF which is what a lot of people were clamoring for, but where City the best team for him to play against? Also would you trust a low confidence player against the best defense in the league? Its a shame., because this isn't want anyone wanted. Everyone knew with an inexperienced manager and team, that we would have bad runs of form on occasion. But this a big slump we are in right now., and close to the midway point of the season. He is walking on thin ice.

That's the way it looks unfortunately. Its like a point of no return. If the Chelsea board were like Arsenal and gave Frank more time like Arteta got, there could be a turning point eventually, but we could be swimming in the relegation zone by then. No way they will allow team to drop that low after these investments. Feel bad for Frank. He is the least experienced manager in the league. Arteta at least had years serving as assistant under Pep, and Ole has experience relegating teams. In hindsight, it looks like he should have taken his time like JT or even Gerrard, and taken up reigns at a place with less scrutiny. The latter leading Rangers to a title is something similar to what we would have liked to see Frank do as well. Can't complain that he came in when he did, though. He made us finish top 4 last season when we were practically written off following Hazard's departure

That's what I think as well. I think our top 4 quest is all but snapped at this point. Defeat in the Leicester game will mean we are well short off our mid season objective.

Good backup keeper. Maybe enough for a top 4 team Not good enough to start every match for a title winning side.

It is the manager's fault. That was my point.

Its not just a case of being badly coached. Look at the first 25 mins. We were pressing them intensely for the first 10 mins, dominating possession. And then, flick of a switch. City just swarm their way into our half. No one gets close enough to a City player. We just let them walk through to goal. Whatever the reason, whether its lack of confidence or faith in the manager, the squad just gave up. Its not just a case of him changing tactics, his squad has lost motivation. And I'm not sure he's the type to rectify that. Unlike his playing days, he can no longer lead by example

He's lost the dressing room. The way the team gave up pressing to let City waltz their way through for the first 2 goals shows his time is up. Can't see anyway he can turn this around any time soon. We are currently heading on the same trajectory that Arterta's Arsenal was. Is the Chelsea board really going to give him that much leeway? Can't see them being willing to sacrifice a top 4 spot just to let Lampard learn. Not after investing in the squad like this.

The past 20 minutes have little to do with tactics., the players have very clear given up. I think the constant chopping and poor results have worked against Frank, and have given the players ammunition to lose faith. I don't see how we can turn them around after this. The club might think of giving him time because of his stature within the club, but that looks like a dangerous game at this point. Lampard might have set very high standards for himself as a player, but I don't know if he can instill that attitude in others. He was always the more quiet one in the dressing room according to Essien. Not sure if he has the personality to motivate this group again.

Sad to see it come to this. But I think its over. Dream is dead.

I think he has lost the dressing room. The players basically gave up before the first city goal. They stopped pressing. And they've practically let City waltz through for the second.

For now, yeah. But given how we've had matches being cancelled literally less than 6 hours in advance this week, I don't think any match can be guaranteed to happen as planned,

Whatever dude, carry on.

You really are a troll aren't you. Fav player: Kepa Arizzabalaga. Pretty much posting nonsense on every thread and getting away with it because you're 'Japanese'.

Just like with Drogba, always liked watching Chelsea with Hazard, because you would always expect them to pull something out of the hat even if the match was not going well.

No, I don't think anyone can hide behind an excuse.., and if the season goes to shit, no excuse will save the manager. All I'm saying is we can't really do a fair comparison with previous Chelsea managers when the majority of Franks's Chelsea managerial career so far has been in an abnormal 2020, which is weird enough without the football taken into account. Lack of crowds, lack of preseason, compressed fixture lists, those aren't things that those previous managers had to deal with. And this season, even the experienced managers are struggling.

I wish we could assess the manager's job at the end of a normal season. (Which is why I suspect most clubs will be a bit more lenient this season, unless their teams are nailed on heading towards disaster) . Chelsea is NOT the same without its support, and the club has some of the best away supporters in the league. And of course, a full Stamford Bridge is a big difference. Now someone can easily say that having crowds back could have worked against us (just like it did at Everton), but you have to remember some of our best away form happened under Lampard when we were still playing in full stadiums. Sorry @Jason , but that's why I think doing that points per game comparison with other managers right now., is a bit....pointless

Hmm...technically they should be allowed to face us as long as they have at least 14 players (incl. GK) that have tested non-negative. Can understand if they are still uncertain about the numbers and want to prevent infection spread, or if they run out of time to prepare for the match, but anything less shouldn't be cause to cancel (unless the PL itself decides to suspend the season)

I think its better for his health if plays more matches,..its the 'rest' days that we need to be worried about

Could have seen it out. We were in control at that point, but Christensen does what he usually does and wilted under pressure. He's a defender that can do a decent job for 89 minutes, and then completely screw things up in a matter of seconds. I put him and Emerson in the same bracket of weak mentality players, that should rarely start a game. If anything, all he does is keep Tomori from playing.