I would suggest staying out of the transfer speculation thread then. A few points 1. Thats great that you want to object to someone who you rate as a vital cog in the wheel being sold, more power to you, but you realise that the only people whos thoughts you will change are the week minded or those who are easily swayed and unable to come to their own conclusions so really it is a pointless exercise arguing his case page after page! 2. The fact that so many object to him being sold MIGHT suggest that they are right BUT then ive never said that they were wrong have I? I made my view on him (to my eternal regret) and moved on whilst others have dragged this monotony on! 3. I dont know about Ollie,seems a decent fella, but I didnt realise I had a superior knowledge or that I had claimed otherwise, i do know however that there is a thread dedicated to players and thats where i would be looking to go and discuss them instead of people coming onto this thread set up for possible transfers, seeing that there is a new post under a certain player only to walk into the anti climax that is ..... you and your fan club talking about mikel AGAIN! At the risk of being tarred with the brush im giving you a coat with i will say this, I like Mikel, I dont rate him as highly as you but i dont feel the need to make you agree with me! Maybe thats something you should address with the little zolayes inside you.