EskWeston

Looking very good indeed Jim. Good job...

No, we can't register any players with FIFA for that period. So technically we COULD buy players but we would not be able to register them until January 2011..... But we CAN sell players.

Good to see them both continuing to make progress. Will be great to see Joe back in the side again... Also good to see Borini bagging another couple of goals, the lads a goal machine

Too right, and i havn't seen them show the best one yet. The outrageous piece of skill 4:15 in is brilliant....

Yes but because someone gets very heated over football matters doesn't mean they would pick Chelsea over their family. I am sure CJ and Shane would also pick their family over CFC if given the choice...

Why slag him off at all? We don't know who was at fault, or if anyone was at fault. Even if we did do something wrong doesn't mean that someone is at fault.

Because no matter how much someone loves Chelsea i cannot think there are many people who would choose Chelsea over their family, unless for one reason or another they hated their family. Also without trawling through that thread i cannot see anyone who did say that Chelsea is more important than their family.

Does anyone honestly think that the club signed Kakuta knowing full well he was under some contract that would wind us up in trouble? Of course they didn't, Chelsea will have done what they did believing that they had the right to. Everyone likes a scapegoat and Frank Arnesen seems to be easy pickings. Fact it is looks like we are being punished for something that isn't even clear if we did anything wrong. And even if we DID the punishment is not in proportion to the crime.

lol, stange thread. With Me, my wife and daughter, Chelsea and Family go hand in hand. But if someone put a gun to my head and made me choose then i would most certainly pick my family...

Zero chance of that happening, CFC will keep him neatly wrapped in cotton wool...

I agree, i think he would thrive on the big stage. He always excelled in the FA youth cup the last couple of seasons..

Indeed, no-one will be slagging off Arnesen if Kakuta makes it (which i am sure he will), or if Stoch makes it, or Bruma ect... fact is we have a exceptional group of young players who are looking like making the breakthrough (which takes time).

Not the same thing at all, but that is what FIFA are basing their punishement on, which makes them look even more stupid in my opinon.

We actually signed him when he 15. And yes, under EU law under 16's are not legally allowed to enter into any contract of employment. Does this "Pre Contract Agreement" actually mean ANYTHING legally? And if it does, then HOW does it because i am sure every club in europe would love to tie down their under 16's to some sort of contract. I think FIFA are trying to push a rule through for U18 players and are using us as a scapegoat to get it through. As i said, i would be amazed after taking this through the courts if we end up with ANY punishement other than paying a development fee to Lens

Which means that we could take him and if no fee could be agreed then it would go to tribunal to set a fee. Lens tried to reach an agreement with CFC by their own admission, so why only report us after a fee could not be agreed? Add to that the fact that what they have received money-wise by this FIFA judgment is actually LESS than what we offered them!!! The more i read about this the more fishy it sounds and the more confident i am that it will be TOTALLY reveresed.

Well that is a worry to be honest. We don't want this to affect Kakuta in any way.... We have managed to keep him a low profile up until now but this has blown that out of the water!! And FIFA spouting bo****ks about "protecting young players". Well they are not doing much to protect Kakuta by banning him for 4 months and fining him nearly £700k, all they are doing is protecting the clubs that vote these twats into power...

This whole "Pre Contract Agreement" and an actual "Professional Contract" is what this all hinges on. By law clubs cannot get players to sign a contract until they are at least 16, so at 15 there cannot possibly be anything that would tie him to the club.

It is pretty clear and has been for a while that UEFA and FIFA just do not like us. They also DO have something against English clubs because of our dominance......

I would be suprised if these bans stick..... Firstly they are applying a similar punishment to a 15 year old breaking what are told is a "pre contract agreement" to a Professional player breaking a pro contract. Secondly they would have to prove conclusively that Chelsea deliberately induced Kakuta KNOWING that he was under contract with another club. Thirdly this whole "pre contract agreement" thing HAS to be pretty flimsy. As far as FIFA are concerned Kakuta was not registered with any club until he signed a pro contract with Chelsea. If anything a pre contract agreement would be out of FIFA's jurisdiction, if a sporting court wants to fine us for breaking that agreement then thats one thing, but FIFA surely could not impose a ban on us or punish us... Time will tell.

Gael has a problem because he has a 4 month ban!!! He is recovering from injury and still not up to speed! He is going to have to work exceptionally hard to keep in tip top condition for when his ban ends. Although his ban will probably be put on hold while the appeal process is carried out... Kakuta could turn out to be World Class, in a similar bracket to Messi, Ronaldo and Kaka..... even if the bans are upheld, he is worth it.

Firstly can UEFA prove that we "induced" Kakuta, and more importantly induced him "knowing" that he had a contract.. The contract though is the most important thing because what sort of contract is it if he is not allowed to sign a pro contract at that point?

Excellent news to hear that Miroslav has recovered from his injury. It comes as no suprise that he is impressing at Twente and with the national team, the lad is pure class and i have no doubt that he can be a part of the Chelsea future, watching the Stoke replay last night on CTV his impact in that game was great and what i have come to expect from him.... A very bright "Chelsea" future for Miroslav i am absolutely sure.

What team has a 33+ man squad!? It will cost us because if we lose big key players to injury then yes we will have to lean on youngsters, but it will cost us titles without a shadow of a doubt. It is of vital importance now that we take no risks when it comes to player injury.... No-one is more for developing young talent than i am, but this could end up costing us big time.

It's not tapping up that is the issue, it is breach of contract. Firstly i would like to know what sort of contract Kakuta could possibly have had at 15 years old...... there is no way he could have signed a pro contract. So how can FIFA dish out the same punishment as to what they gave out for a breach of a pro contract. And what "proof" is there that we intentionally coherced Kakuta to break whatever contract it was he had? Also what happens when come next summer we want to register our next batch of youngsters and give them pro contracts? We won't be able to do it.... it could mean we end up losing a host of talented youngsters to other clubs next summer....

What happens if we get a spate of long term injuries. It most certainly can happen. We can't even bring anyone in on loan!!!! Lets say for arguments sake that in December Drogba and Anelka both break their legs. This WILL have a massive effect on us and will cause us problems.