Madmax

Is that whole thing the code? Even the hyphen in between?

Behave you lot. ARSENAL FC LONDON RULES, DAMN.

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Yep indeed - Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison ...

R.I.P

Not sure what we're discussing anymore.

Sigh. Not once do I recall saying it doesn't exist. All I said was this - if it does, I haven't read so yet.

£100,000 k.

Bojan and Romeu are different deals, it's not worthwhile comparing the two. Atm what I've posted so far in this thread is what I've been able to gather. Like I said in another post, we may have a similar option to retain him by paying a higher fee, but even if that is the case, no mention of the same has been made anywhere.

Exactly, it is in effect just that.

We might not have a similar provision in this deal. Or maybe we do but it's not public knowledge yet.

No mate it's different - Buyback = Selling club has the option to buy back the player at a future date at the price mentioned in the contract, if they think he's worth getting back to the club. It's a bit like a release clause, but different in the sense that a release clause can be activated by any team whereas a buyback is exclusive to the original selling club. In both cases, the club that buys the player (us, in this matter) is contractually bound to accept the offer if it matches the release clause amount. Example - if say Madrid offer us 8 million for Oriol, we may or may not accept the offer. But since Barca has that buyback clause, if they offer 8 million, the clause is activated and we must accept the bid. First refusal = When a club makes an offer for a player and it is accepted by the selling club, if the selling club has a 'first refusal' deal on that specific player or set of players with another club, that other club has the right to have an offer of a same amount accepted by the selling club. If they think the player in question is good enough and match the original offer, this bid has to be accepted by the selling club. Then it is upto the player to choose which club he wants to go to. Example - Part of the Deco deal was us getting 'first dibs' on Fluminense's 3 young players (their names evade me atm). If say Man Utd make an offer for one of those players and it's accepted by Fluminense, we have a right to match Utd's offer and have it accepted by Fluminense. Then the player decides which club he wants to go to. Hope I made sense

That's what I meant when I said that we've reached an agreement. I'm not complaining about it - I quite like the prospect actually.

1. You are free to believe what you want, I post what I believe is correct. Feel free to ignore. 2. We have reached an agreement - it's on our official site. 3. Applying your own line of reasoning, what you say is pure speculation as well. 4. Suggest you look up the meaning of the words ''in effect''.

From what I've gathered from sources across the web. Also, those sources don't make any mention of the increased payment 2 years down the line (40m in Bojan's case). We buy him now for 5 million, and if Barca activate the buy-back clause he is sold for 8 million in 2013. In effect a loan for 2 years, while being paid 3 million to take him on loan.

No - what you're talking about is first refusal. Romeu has a buy-back clause, which is totally different. It's like having a release clause, but only for the team that originally sold him. Once the release clause is met, the bid has to be accepted.

There's a reason I said predominantly. Don't completely agree with that quoted part, because from what I understand it's a mixture of confidence and ability, not one or the other.

Don't forget - HG rules dictate we need to sell first if we want to sign non-HG players above the age of 21.

If Barcelona do exercise the option, it's essentially a loan deal for 2 years - and we get paid 3 million for it.

The perils of offering long-term contracts to ageing players.

Calisthenics and jogging.

Predominantly.

Strange, isn't it? Suppose he plays very well and Barca hand in 8 million, then we are contractually bound to accept the bid. It still remains upto the player whether to accept Barca's contract though.

Apologies all.