Henrique

Hazard gave away the ball for the second goal, and he still got 5 votes for motm, well, 3 came from belgian fans. Oscar scored our goal, but he gave an assist for a Shaktar goal, but the guy missed, he was also far from superb today. Funny thing is, Torres was way worst when he joined us, and back there he got a lot of support and people saying he was playing good. Now he became the new Bosingwa and Anelka: our scapegoat when nothing is working.

Shakater is better than I expected. Perhaps our players underestimated the ukranian side. I think Oscar was bad, despite his goal. Hazard was also fucking awful, the guy needs to learn how to shoot, he usually go to the pitch esily. Mata was far from good. Ramires was our better player in the midfield. Terry was in a bad day. Well, I think Torres was decent in the first half, imo he was our best attacking player in the first 45 minutes. Hazard and Oscar were not better than the spaniard today. I also would like to know who asked for Mkel to take that free kick in the end of the match, no surprise the ball went directly to GK`s hand, the guy was good in the defence, tough. Now we must win the match against Shaktar next week.

He is not playing well, but was our best attacking player in first half. What about Oscar and Hazard?

He did.

Ramires the best player on the pitch for us. Torres also good, terrible game by our 3 midfielders. Oscar and Hazard really poor.

Sometimes a player shoot the ball, and then a defender make a small contact in the ball, and changes a little bit the direction of the ball and it went to the net. If not for that contact there would be no goal. That doesnt make it an own goal. But thats football for you.

I lost all respect for EPL official stats. I remember one game that Ballack took a very nice free kick, the ball hit the post then GK's back and went to the net. It was considered an own goal. I dont know how that could be assist. That doesnt matter, anyway.

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/profile.overview.html/emboaba-oscar Emboaba? Shocked.

Of course that wasnt a assist, ffs. Gallas was the one that made the assist.

Maradona was the mad guy, while Messi is the quite and nice one. People love legends from the past, some love to say "there will never be a player like x". For me, I think is better to see the history hapenning.

Useless in the 1st half, and awful in the 2nd. During the match here were times when I was really angry with this guy. Right now he is not the disaster he was in the beginning of his Chelsea career, but he is an avarage CF, the kind that score some good goals and some matches, but then miss incredible chances or make a lot of silly mistakes in others. Just like Gudjonsen when he used to play as a CF here.

What a great match, and what a great match by Mata. His best display ever. Happy to see Sturridge scoring again, RDM should try this guy as a CF in some matches.

I think the club will buy another CB when Terry retires.

Well, you are comparing Puyol and Casillas with a very avarage CB, the worst we have in the squad, and no doubt the club see Cahill as a squad player. This is not the kind of player that become captain.

The captain needs to be english? I see no other reason to think Cahill or Bertrand should be our captain.

Kakuta, for sure.

1- Dude, we all know the official name is "Campeonato Brasileiro Série A". So Brazilian Serie A is a very good name for it. http://www.cbf.com.b...ro/serie-a/2012 4- Well, this is not true. Players in Italy still get more money, and we all know that in Brazil a player stays 2 or 3 months without seeing the color of the money. Seedorf is getting a lot of money, but it seems Botafogo is struggling to pay him, and while his wages are huge, the rest of the team get muuuuuch more less. Brazilian league is underrated, I agree. I have to tell you one thing, 3 years ago when knobody outside Brazil knew who Neymar was, in this forum people were saying Lukaku was way better than him, well, because he was scoring thousands of goals in belgian league. Brazilia league is better than Belgian, Dutch or even than Portuguese League (Porto and Benfica aside), but in terms of the quality of the players we have here. But brazilian legue is full of anachronisms, 98% of our managers are outdated. They really suck. Its very common in Brazilian Serie A a team with 3 CB, or 3 DM, sometimes we have a team with 3 CB and 3 DM at the same time. Its not only in Série A, if you go to watch matches of young boys you will realize a lot of line-ups with 3 CBs, 3 DMs, and sometimes both. We also have a lot of guys in the wings running, running and running. Guys that run a lot, but cant mark, cant cross, and cant score goals. Another problem is the referee, is very common in Brazil a match with 40/50 fouls. It means, one foul in 2 minutes. Its not because the players are violent, but because the referees are stupid. Luiz Felipe Scolari stayed almost 2 years at Palmeiras, and he did a pretty awful job, but he was a top 10 coach in terms of wages, and many people still think he is a genius. Brazil still needs a lot of professionalism in terms of football.

Brazil is still far away from the quality we had here in 90s.

imo there are only 2 player in your list that are as good as Messi, and think he will be the greatest when he finished his career.

Ronaldo perhaps, but I dont think he has the ability to be as good as Messi. Messi is kjust in another league,

You are the one losing your cool here. I'm suppa cool, actually. and ok, now I know are not only shite, but also a loser.

You are as shite as well. Now back on topic: you should be banned too.

Actually Hazard and Mata both have 4 assists, by the official stats.

You are an idiot. People like you are the ones degenerating this forum.

No. Atleticos president said he want to sell Falcao, but he will stay at leat untill the end of this season.