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Barca scouting: Read online whatever player Chelsea is linked with, then run and try and buy him first Barca scout:
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https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2012/7/30/3204610/on-Chelsea-fc-ffp-and-amortization-of-transfer-fees Today we're going to look specifically at transfer fees and how they'll be accounted for under FFP. The rule as designed by UEFA allows clubs 2 alternatives in how to report transfer fees. The first method would be to simply record all transfer fees as expenses, which is the easiest way to report figures. When you buy a player, you would simply record the fee as a 1 time expense. When you sell a player, the fee would be a 1 time credit. Loss or profit would become a simple matter of subtracting sales from purchases and looking at the total. After the jump I've laid out what Chelsea's first 3 year monitoring period would look like using that specific method. Two things to note here. First, all figures displayed are in millions and have been rounded. Second, I don't have access to the specifics of all sales and purchases, so these figures reflect the most educated estimates we have. The data may be off by a few million pounds in either direction, but overall you get a pretty good idea of where we stand by looking at the chart below. The expensing method has it's good and bad points, but my guess is that basically nobody will show their accounting using this method. Writing off transfer fees as a 1 time expense creates wild variances in profit and loss. While this method would allow for quick fixes to large losses by selling players, it would also make it very difficult to consistently break even. Clubs using this method would likely show seasons of large profit and large loss at varying points of their accounting, and that would seem to make consistent compliance with FFP far more difficult. Because of that fact, I think it's safe to assume that Chelsea and every other club out there will take the other option that UEFA is offering, amortizing transfer costs*. *Clubs can't swap between methods from 1 season to the next, they have to report using the same methods every season. By amortizing transfer fees, UEFA is allowing clubs to spread the cost of the purchase over the life of the contract. As a simple example, a player purchased for £10 million and signed to a 5 year deal would have his transfer fee spread out over the 5 years he was under contract. That's £2 million per year, nice and simple. What happens if a player extends though? We'll use the above £10 million player as our example again. That player finishes the second year of his contract with the club, and the club and player reach an agreement that extends the contract for 2 more seasons. At that point we take the £6 million that has yet to be accounted for in the books ( £4 million has already been accounted for in years 1 and 2) and split that up over the 5 years the players is now contracted to the club. This player will now cost £1.2 million against FFP for the remainder of his contract. If he extends again, you'd simply repeat that process using whatever amount is yet to be accounted for. Below you can find the chart of how Chelsea's transfer spending would look under the amortization method of FFP accounting. You'll note that both Ramires and David Luiz extended this season, and their transfer costs counted against the books this year have dropped accordingly. That looks a lot better, no? Using the amortization method of accounting, there is basically no chance that Chelsea fail to comply during the initial accounting periods of FFP. I've used exactly the same figures for transfer fees, but simply broken them down over the life of the contract. Using the amortization method, Chelsea are showing about £163 million less that they've spent in transfer fees for the first accounting period. This brings up an interesting dilemma though, as how do we account for player sales using this method. First, there are 2 types of player sales. Academy products don't have transfer fees to account for, so they are very easy to show. Simply take whatever you received for the player in question and add it to your income. Players signed prior to 2010 are being accounted using this method as well, although there likely won't be significant fees from those players going forward. What if we sold a guy that counts against FFP though? What do you do with the portion of their transfer fee still to be accounted for? It's fairly simple actually, but it does take a little math. Let's use Yossi Benayoun in this example, as he's likely to be sold this summer anyway. Let's say we sell Yossi for £1 million. We had Yossi on the books for £2 million this season. We'd take that total, subtract the £1 million from the sale, and Yossi would cost £1 million against the books this season. So what if the player we sell is not in the last year of their deal? For this example we'll look at Fernando Torres. Torres through his first season and a half has seen £13.5 million go against the books. He's got 4 years and £36.5 million left to account for. Let's say we manged to sell Torres for £20 million tomorrow. How would we account for that? Well, we'd take all of the £36.5 million still owed to Torres, subtract the £20 million we just got for him, and record the £16.5 million as a 1 time loss for the 2012/13 season. Torres would never again count against the FFP books, we'd take the 1 time hit and move on. This math would work for profits as well. If we take the same player (Torres) and sell him for the same £50 million we initially paid for him, the accounting works the same. We'd take the £36.5 million still needing to be accounted for on the books, subtract the £50 million we just sold the player for, and put the resulting £13.5 million in profit towards 2012/13. It's a 1 time profit, and Torres would disappear from the books entirely after the 2012/13 season. This method of accounting for player sales helps to highlight the genius of what Chelsea are currently doing. We've spent a lot of money thus far this summer, no question about it. But using a player for 4-5 seasons and then selling him at a high point of his value is going to cut out a massive portion of our amortized transfer spending. Buying assets with resale value will literally allow Chelsea to continue spending on the transfer market in the future, buying guys like Luka Modric, Hulk, and Cavani just won't. Selling just 1 or 2 players for £15 million apiece can fund a pretty massive spending spree in the short term, as the sale of Yuri Zhirkov is enough to offset this season's amortized hit of every single player we've bought in the last 2 transfer windows combined. Buying young and selling off the surplus later will help Chelsea remain compliant, as it's actually a sustainable model.
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that is why we are offering over the release clause, so we can stagger it out and that tweeter name drops Romano all the time and when you go look, Romano never has said exactly what that tweeter claims he said
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IF we get Enzo, that surely closes the door on Bellingham and also on any effort to try and pull de Jong from Barca then it is down, IMHO, to buying either Rice or Caicedo, two entirely different types of players Caicedo, (along with the crazy hard to pull Barella), are the two closest things atm to Kante Rice is a trad DMF cruncher, and he seems to have dropped off, as West Ham have went to shit
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Chelsea to discuss personal terms with Enzo Fernandez after agreeing to pay huge release clause for Argentina star https://www.lfclive.net/news/Chelsea-to-discuss-personal-terms-with-Enzo-Fernandez-after-agreeing-to-pay-huge-release-clause-for-Argentina-star-1163862 Chelsea will enter personal talks with Enzo Fernandez after agreeing to pay Benfica's huge release clause in their bid to sign him in January. Chelsea however appear to have blown their rivals out of the water, agreeing to pay the midfielder's €120million release clause. According to The Sun, Chelsea have met with both Benfica president Rui Costa and super-agent Jorge Mendes, with the Blues confirming they will have no issue in meeting that huge release clause. It now leaves Chelsea free to open talks with the player and his representatives as they seek to agree personal terms.
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Opinion: Chelsea could make some cash if players aren’t signing new deals
Vesper replied to James's topic in Chelsea Articles
IF we get Enzo in January, we are crazy to not sell Jorginho if we have no intention of caving into hs demands should sell RLC too, Carney (to name just one player) can surely take up his slack wish we could sell Kante too, but zero chance anyone pays much at all for an injured until March or April player in his last 6 months of contract -
all else aside we have dropped 10 to 13 inexcusable points both under Tuchel and Potter the 2 loses to Leeds (3 nil, yikes) and Southampton (both the those were true WTF! games under Tuchel) plus the Brentford draw (like 6 or 7 sitter's missed) the Man U choke draw (Casemiro, 94th minute) and that robbery draw v Spuds (the CuCu hair pull slam game) and we should have drawn with NUFC, not lost we should probably be on 37 points And even if you say, well we will accept losing to NUFC instead of a draw and will accept the Brentford draw (the Spuds and Manure draws were a pure robbery for one, and pure choke for the other), it's still 10 points dropped those 10 points would have put us at 34 (one point behind Citeh one even games played, and in clear 3rd place, 1 point above NUFC (and we have a game in hand), and 5 above Spuds (with a game in hand for us), and 6 above Manure (on even games), and nine above Pool, on even games played the rest of the points we dropped (the 2 other losses were to Arse and that hiding Brighton gave us) I can accept (to a small degree, lol, that Brighton games was just one of those things, and they are a solid club)
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1 3 good header
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nil 3 Håland 20 league goals now
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Håland this season in 2000 minutes 31 goals 4 assists 19 are league goals, in 1100 minutes lol
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nil 2 Håland
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Chelsea Football Club has today released the following statement about Reece James... https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/reece-james-update Defender Reece James underwent assessment earlier today after being substituted during the second half of last night’s 2-0 Premier League victory over AFC Bournemouth due to a knee injury. Scan results have regrettably confirmed a setback for the 23-year-old, with Reece now set to be ruled out for up to a month.
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as much as some people do not rate Rice (I rate him, but not at the top top of my wish list) I DO NOT want Pickford as our keeper! ffs go for all of these before him (Plus we have Slonina eventually) Jan Oblak Emiliano Martínez Dominik Livakovic Giorgi Mamardashvili Illan Meslier Odysseas Vlachodimos younger Matvey Safonov Anatoliy Trubin Maarten Vandevoordt
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so Pep renewed until June 30, 2025 he will have at least 3 more shots with Citeh at winning the CL thus season, and then the next two https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/11/22/pep-guardiola-set-extend-manchester-city-contract-2025/
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board must be glitching again
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wth, lol
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Leeds v Citeh stream https://www.sportfacts.net/sports/2022/premier-league-leeds-united-vs-manchester-city-s1/
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Cup revelation, Enzo Fernández denies transfer rumors: "I'm focused on Benfica" The 21-year-old player draws the attention of Real Madrid and Manchester United after excelling at the World Cup in Qatar By Ge's Staff — San Martín, Argentina https://ge.globo.com/futebol/futebol-internacional/noticia/2022/12/26/revelacao-da-copa-enzo-fernandez-nega-rumores-de-transferencia-estou-focado-no-benfica.ghtml Elected the revelation of the 2022 World Cup , the Argentine Enzo Fernández has been arousing the interest of many teams in Europe. However, the midfielder assured that he is focused on Benfica , his current team. - I don't know anything about that. It's up to my agent, I don't want to get involved. I'm focused on Benfica, in a few days we have an important game. I have a flight at night to play in the game on Friday - said Enzo in a speech to a crowd in the city of San Martín, Argentina. + Enzo Fernández: author of the great goal for Argentina had an offer from Flamengo and won the final against Palmeiras The game Enzo is referring to is against Braga for the Portuguese Championship . Benfica is the leader of the competition with 37 points while Braga is in third place with 28 points. According to the Spanish French newspaper As, Real Madrid and Manchester United are interested in Enzo. According to the Portuguese newspaper Record, Benfica rejected a proposal of 100 million euros from Liverpool for the Argentine. The Transfermarkt website points out that the market value of Enzo Fernández is 55 million euros, about R$ 303 million. The athlete has a contract until 2027 with Benfica and was bought for 18 million euros, around R$ 98 million at the current quotation, from River Plate . Enzo Fernández is only 21 years old and left much more valued than when he entered the World Cup in Qatar. The player started the Cup as a substitute for Paredes, but after the great goal against Mexico (watch below) he never lost his position until he lifted the cup.
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Report: Chelsea want to sign £130m star and 23-year-old with Enzo Fernandez in amazing potential triple swoop https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/transfer-news/report-Chelsea-want-to-sign-130m-star-and-23-year-old-with-enzo-fernandez-in-amazing-potential-triple-swoop/ Chelsea reportedly want to sign all three of Enzo Fernandez, Jude Bellingham and Declan Rice in a potential amazing triple swoop. According to the Evening Standard, the Blues are ready to pay Fernandez’s £105million release clause at Benfica. Apparently, Chelsea have informed super-agent Jorge Mendes that they’re willing to meet the demands to try bring the 21-year-old to Stamford Bridge in January. The report adds that Chelsea’s interest in the Benfica midfielder doesn’t interfere with their interest in Borussia Dortmund’s Bellingham or West Ham’s Rice. Chelsea want Fernandez, Bellingham and Rice This latest speculation suggests Graham Potter’s side want a huge revamp in the centre of the park. In our view, it’ll be almost impossible to pull off a deal for the aforementioned trio in 2023, who are three of the world’s very best young central midfielders. However, it’s excellent to see the Blues shopping at the top table. According to The Sun last week, Chelsea are among the clubs interested in signing £130million-rated star Bellingham from German side Dortmund. Bellingham, 19, is a box-to-box midfielder already shining on the biggest stage for club and country. In addition, 23-year-old Rice is an all-action central midfielder that’s been performing so consistently in the Premier League for several years now. Journalist Ben Jacobs recently reported that Chelsea think they may be able to steal Rice away from rivals West Ham for £75million. Any side that managed to sign all of Fernandez, Bellingham and Rice would have their midfield nailed for the next decade. For us, signing just one of them would be some achievement.
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Report: Barcelona are trying to convince £35m player not to join Chelsea in January now https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/transfer-news/report-barcelona-are-trying-to-convince-35m-player-not-to-join-Chelsea-in-january-now/ Reports from France have claimed that Barcelona are looking to convince Benoit Badiashile to not join Chelsea during next month’s transfer window. According to L’Equipe, the Catalan club are hoping the defender chooses to wait until next summer before he makes his big move to a European powerhouse. Reports over Christmas weekend claimed that the Blues have made an offer to Monaco to sign the 21-year-old in January, with their bid being in the region of £35m. It appears as if they are currently preferring the signing to that of Josko Gvardiol. After nearly signing the young defender during the last summer window, Blues fans were forced to watch him be arguably the best in his position at the tournament. However, RB Leipzig have seemingly used this to their advantage, as they have begun to demand a far higher price than before for the Croatian. Barcelona in for Badiashile This has seemingly seen the Blues shift their focus in the market to fellow youngster Badiashile. However, L’Equipe have claimed that the Blues will face competition from the likes of Barcelona and Manchester United if they don’t get the deal done in January. With Thiago Silva almost certainly on the way out soon, the Blues will need to invest heavily in order to fill the void he is likely to leave in his wake. The Blues are also facing a number of injury issues at the back this season. Wesley Fofana recently suffered another setback after attempting to return from a problem suffered earlier in the campaign. The treatment table is getting very busy at Stamford Bridge right now, with Reece James time off it being very brief. He suffered another injury on his return against Bournemouth, with his comeback lasting just over half of the fixture.
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brutal games we have left
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Chelsea already have centre-back option under their nose who could save them £100m https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1714211/Chelsea-transfer-news-Graham-Potter-Benoit-Badiashile-Josko-Gvardiol-Levi-Colwill Chelsea have made it no secret that they are in the market for central defenders - which may leave academy graduate Levi Colwill scratching his head and questioning his worth to the club. The Blues refused to let the defender leave permanently over the summer but do not appear to be forming a plan that includes the 19-year-old. Colwill was one of the standout stars of the Championship last season at Huddersfield, with many quickly recognising that the centre-back is an England international in waiting. Several sides were interested in signing the teenage sensation over the summer after the Blues decided to invest in more experienced defenders, with Southampton and Crystal Palace keen. Brighton were also interested and managed to secure his signature on a season-long loan, with Chelsea using their academy star as a sweetener in negotiations for Marc Cucurella. Graham Potter was a long-term admirer of Colwill and had actively pushed to sign the defender at the club, though the now-Chelsea manager does not appear to be confident in his services, instead looking to sign other left-sided defenders. The Blues are closing in on AS Monaco star Benoit Badiashile in a deal worth £35million as they look to further bolster their defensive options. The club also retain a long-standing interest in RB Leipzig star Josko Gvardiol, who was one of the breakout stars of the Qatar World Cup with Croatia. Numerous top clubs are interested in the 20-year-old, including Manchester City and Real Madrid, which could spark an immense bidding war for the defender that may see his price tag soar beyond £100m. Asked about whether Gvardiol would be worth that sum, Paul Merson said: “If Josko Gvardiol doesn't play against Lionel Messi then he could be worth that kind of money. In this day and age, there are no centre halves about either. “It's like the world has been taken over by wingers and wing-backs. Nobody seems to be producing a centre-forward or a centre-half anymore." If both players are signed then it would mean that there are a plethora of stars battling it out for the left-sided centre-back role in Potter’s side, with Kalidou Koulibaly also best deployed in the role. Cucurella is also in the running for the spot, with the Spaniard attempting to find form since leaving Brighton. Colwill was willing to leave Chelsea over the summer if there was no clear pathway into the first team, and if his boyhood club continue to sign defenders then it would be no surprise to see the centre-back make a permanent exit over the summer. However, the prospect of losing the England under-21 international could prompt Potter to alter his plans given the rave reviews he is receiving on the south coast.
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potential (I have no clue how much over the 120 euros we are prepared to offer) Enzo price potential Bellingham price Enzo age: soon 22, Date of birth 17 January 2001 (age 21) Jude age: 19, 2 and a half years younger, Date of birth 29 June 2003 (age 19) Salary for Jude will likely be 33-50% or so higher than for Enzo, I am guessing so, over a 7 year contract, potentially £55m to £85m more for Jude (VERY rough numbers) in terms of salary