Dwight Schrute

To be honnest, the only "world class player" in PSG is Motta, based on what he did before with other teams and what he is still able to do. Thiago Silva is almost a world class player but still lacks a bit of mental strength (kept crying in Brazil, his hand against Chelsea was incomprehensible). Verratti has enough to be a world class player, he showed it during the two games, it is just a matter of time. Lucas Moura has enought to be a world class player but he also still have to prove. And Maxwell is among the best players in the world at his position. Now Zlatan. He's been here for more than 10 years, he has proven a lot in one the best league in the world back then, he might the most spectacular player in the world but I am still waiting for him to deliver great performances in knock-out UCL games, which might never happen unfortunately. I do not blame him for the last game because he did not deserve the red card but still, UCL will still be a trouble when one looks at his career. So you see, I even have troubles considering Ibra a world class player. So maybe we do not have the same meaning of "world class player". The PL is the most interesting league because it has the highest density of good teams that have more or less the same level, because of the great english football atmosphere but Spanish Liga is ahead now. Only problem of Spanish Liga is that Barça and Real are so strong they crash everything but Europa League often looks like Copa del Rey in semi-finals while average english teams like Tottenham, Everton or even Liverpool never go further than round of 16 (I am talking about smaller teams like those ones, I know Chelsea won it).

You know that the PSG he played against with Lille had nothing to do with he played against with Chelsea. He is the best player in a league that is no longer what it used to be (probably only one club left in the Europa league round of 16). Since you don't seem to understand, I'll repeat: he is a very very good player, I am just saying that so far he is not a world class player. I am not comparing with Messi or Ronaldo but he is still far from players like Robben, Ribéry or even Drogba or Lampard back during their great time with Chelsea.

He proves it against QPR, Burnley or Crystal Palace. Against PSG or Atletico, he has proven much less so far. I guess he would prove even less against Real or Bayern.

A forum is the place to debate topics. Even you Chelsea fans do not agree with each other. If another team fans come to a psg forum without being gross or provocative, then I'll debate with them and won't ask them to consider Ibra the best player ever or Blanc a genius. I am not saying shit about Chelsea, I never said Chelsea was a poor team, I am not insulting you I am just debating with you gyus. Now if you are not capable of debating with people who do not think the same way as you, just create your own forum with you being the only member, this is the only way to have no disagreements. Too bad he did not prove it on the pitch.

My club has been after almost single good player in Europe. And when it comes to recruitment, you should not trust guys willing to pay 50m€ for David Luiz (still a mistake for me, especially with FFP). And believe me, I do not want him playing for PSG. This is a subjective judgement, but I do not like his way to be and his arrogance. And can you name a great performance he did in big UCL games (besides scoring penalties)? He is a very very good player, but not a world class player yet (he will certainly be in a few years). In his defense, it is pretty hard to show you are a world class offensive player when you're being coached by Mourinho. But even in September, you were not able to beat the 10 men of Man City. You're a super team when it comes to smaller teams, no sarcasm, this what it takes to win the title. But you have been having more and more troubles against great teams. You are right but PL is getting more and more competitive because teams from the big 4/5 are no longer as good as they used to be and now have harder time to beat the likes of Tottenham, Everton or Southampton. Because you gyus did not spend a single penny? You had so many failures with transfers ... Crespo, Veron, Kezman, Sheva, Torres, Ferreira, Wright-Phillips, Tiago, Quaresma, Del Horno, Deco, Maniche ...Not to mention how great you did with Matic: sold £5m, then bought £21m. So please stop your BS story "whe have a proper team that we almost did not spend money for ...". All those missed transfers are all it took you to pick other great players. Wow, now your point is "you celebrated much more than we did so we are better". Impressive. Just as a reminder, looks like the celebration intensity did not matter to you when Mourinho crossed the pitch to congratulate Ba. And you also come up with personal attacks, which just shows how much you have to tell about football ... I can give you the contact of my 11 years-old psg fan cousin, you guys could have a great debate together. Anyway good luck to all the other chelsea fans who really talk about football, see you maybe next year !

Hey guys, Sorry to come back just now, I know it is not very brave now Paris won. I think everything has been said about the game so I have nothing to add for the moment. Like last year, the result is the same, both times the team that deserved to pass passed in the last minutes ... Anyway, you got knocked out but you won the League Cup and will win the Premier League, not that bad. So basically Paris completely dominated the first leg, played better than Chelsea in the second leg with only 10 men and Chelsea are still better? Be honnest at least. About Diego Costa, you strangely forgot to mention how great he did during the World Cup and the Champions League. Hazard is a world class player? Against Sunderland or QPR, yes he is. In big european games, he is just a regular player. About Courtois, I totally agree with you. But the fact that he had so many chances to show it should be a big worry to you. Because without him, Paris could have almost passed after the first leg. About fatigue, sure Paris had a break during the winter, Chelsea did not. But Chelsea also had 6 days to prepare both games. Do not get me wrong, I still consider Chelsea a great team. But I feel like you're still thinking "we are the best team in the best league in the world so we are one of the best teams in the world". I love watching EPL games so I can say that this is still the most entertaining league in the world but the golden age is over for the moment. Liverpool got eliminated by Basel, you got knocked out, Man City will get knocked out and Arsenal will probably get knocked out by Monaco.

Hi all, Congrats for your victory, 100% deserved, Paris were awful. It's been nice to talk with you, thanks for your welcome on that forum. Good luck for the rest of your season

And Cabaye could replace Matuidi.

I feel reassured, I am not the only crazy guy when it comes to superstition As I did last week, I will go around 7:00 pm at the newsagent to bet money on a draw or a Chelsea's victory and qualification (very stupid superstition, I know).

I agree with you regarding the first video, 4-2 would just be a very good result

Don't worry, I didn't miss that, I even mentioned it above, 12 shots while counter attacking is a huge number, Chelsea could have scored much more. I was just giving my opinion about the defensive performance, not about whether Chelsea deserved to win or not

Actually there were two real chaces, the header from Lavezzi and the shoot from Cavani. IMO, putting pressure can consist in keeping the ball as much as possible which makes opposition players running much more (Chelsea looked very tired at the end of the game) and obliges the opponent to play very low on the pitch. What bothers me is that you're ( not you in particular) basically saying that "Chelsea played their usual game but because of Terry, Lampard and Cech's mistakes, they lost". But Chelsea usual game is based on defense and counter attacks, but in the 2nd half, I can only remember about one counter attack (correct me if i'm wrong) that Thiago Silva stopped. In the whole game, Chelsea had only 4 shoots while they had 12 against Man City. Chelsea played an offensive game from the first goal until the end of the first half, which worked out pretty well as Paris had troubles to play without having the ball; then Chelsea let the ball to the opponent, as they usually do, but this time, they did not have any very dangerous counter attack. I'm not in Mourinho's mind, but to me it looked more like an obligation than a choice. No offense but I think you overrate a little bit your defense. I just watched Man City-Chelsea highlights, as Chelsea supporters often mention that game when it comes to their defense, and not taking goals by Man City was almost a miracle. Then, don't want to sound "everyone is right, everyone is wrong", but it's hard not to be partial as you watch every Chelsea's game, you know roughly how Paris play but rarely see their games, and vice-versa (for me at least). I understand you may have "recognized" Chelsea (except for individual mistakes) but we recognized Paris too in the second half, high possession ball but not necessarily many goal chances in the game, as Paris crushed Lyon 4-0 just by keeping the ball with 4 goals on set pieces. We have been having an interesting debate about the match for the 2 previous pages, no insult, no troll, ... But as the majority of your messages are just "Fuck PSG, fuck PSG fans", "Come on Chelsea, we are the best", I understand you're bored when there are no trolls battles.

Chelsea's defense is the best in PL but what is the level of the PL attacks? IMO PL is still the best league with la Liga, and the best when it comes to the show, the game intensity, the atmosphere ... But the golden age that happened 5-6 years ago, when 3 semi-final teams out of 4 used to be PL teams, is now over to me. Chelsea were eliminated in the group stage last year, and so were Man City in 2012 and 2013 (2012 was understandable for their first participation but they even ended up behing Ajax Amsterdam in 2013) and Man U in 2012. This year, Arsenal showed they had roughly the same level as Borussia and Napoli. Even in the game in Marseille, who are terrible this year, Arsenal had troubles. They may have Ramsey and Wilshere but as French, we all know Giroud is a calamity. Regarding the "new Liverpool" and their Suarez-Sturridge duo, they have not passed any european test so far. Ok Chelsea made big defensive mistakes but mistakes are much more likely and you're really put under pressure. You could see Even Lucas Moura caused big troubles for Chelsea's defense when he came into play. For trolls, I'm just trying to analyse the diffrence between Chelsea defense on Wenesday and that in PL matches.

To me, the situation before Chelsea Napoli is quite different as the coach was substituted between first and second leg. I think this was great source of motivation, and Chelsea were mostly led by experienced players during that match, like Drogba and Lampard who were even more motivated due to their situation with AVB back then. This kind of games are not played with talent only but with personality too. Do you think you still have players able to lead the team as they did 2 years ago? And I have the impression that a lot of you feel like it is more Chelsea's defeat than Paris victory? Paris controlled the game during 2nd half, they managed to keep the ball, which oblige Chelsea's players to run a lot. The best example is Veratti of course, he was not doing that great in the first half, as soon as he played with his usual leval, everything went better ... The most difficult for football supporters is not to accept the defeat, it's to accept the fact that there was not much the team could do about it.

Nothing's done yet. You only pay the musicians at the end of the ball (sorry literal translation). Had the game finished 2 min earlier, Chelsea would still be favorites and now Paris are, and I'd go for 65-35 before the next leg. I may sound pessimisitc but 2 0 can come very fast. Now regarding the game, the first half was strange. The first goal came very fast (too fast ?). Lavezzi was in a very though body position when kicking but he made it. You blame Cech but it came from a huge mistake from Terry. Then Chelsea ketp the ball and dominated while Paris were defending; the contrary of what we were expecting. Did Paris decide to wait in their part of the pitch after the goal? It makes no doubt that Chelsea decided to attack and keep the ball. They were impressive but this ball possession did not generate many goals opportuinities. Then, came Silva's foul. It was real but avoidable, a playr like TS can't do such an useless fool, even if Oscar made nothing to avoid him, which was smart. Then until the end of the half, the match became balanced again, even if turning point of the game was Hazard's shoot on goalspot. Then the second half, Paris scored twice, Cavani missed two goal opportunities. Regarding Paris' performance, I was sure Lavezzi, Matuidi and Jalled were going to be in big troubles in that game, they finally were the 3 best players. Ibrahimovic was just awful from the very beginning, he even lost the ball that led to the penalty. But given his record in knockout phase, it was predictable ... Cavani was bad and just improved when he went in the centre after Ibrahimovic injury. Veratti was awful in the first half, kept the goal way too much, took too muck risks. TS missed his first half too. They were all better in the second half and they managed to keep the ball as they usually do. Regarding Chelsea (I won't go in details, I was more focused on Paris), let me give you my view as someone who didn't see Chelsea that often ... The first goal chenged their plan, but from Lavezzi's goal, I really find Chelsea impressive when they kept the ball. This ball possession was not very efficient but impressive. After the goal, let alone the goalspot, the match was more balanced. Don't understand why Chelsea did not keep attacking as they were doing? Weren't they able to? Was it a choice? It was a great opportunity to kill Paris. Now the second leg. Ibrahimovic may have been a flop yesterday, it very bad news. Cavani is as good as him as CF but Paris will lose Cavani's definding work on the right side. And I don't know how Paris will start the game. Will they attack to try to score at least a goal? Or will they defend? We saw during the first half that they do not know to be a defensive team and let ball to the opposition. It will be very hard game but it's an opportunity to show they're really a great team. Both teams were very tired and will play on Saturday. Most of Paris' players playing next tuesday will probably have some rest, while Chelsea will play an important game for race for the Premier League. For supersitious people : Chelsea: everything you said about Napoli in 2012 (3-1, Stoke, ...) PSG: last time a French team (Monaco) played against Chelsea in the knockout phase, 3-1 in the first leg (same scenario, 1-0, 1-1 after the first half, 2-1, 3-1), then 2-2 in Stamford Bridge